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Note: This debate is intended to make you think. Now, I hope I do not get people who criticized one and NOT the other to begin criticizing both just to keep their views and not appear biased.I am on bestgore right now. I don't touch the child porn, have no reason to, but I was wondering why bestgore viewers aren't criticized like child rape viewers. Some viewers of CR have a morbid curiousity like people that view bestgore. Is it because many bestgore victims are adults? Only a small amount of bestgore inflicted their own wounds. Why should adults be worth so much less than children when they are raped, murdered, or tortured that bestgore viewers are hardly criticized to the same extent at all? Not that I wish to be criticized. Should we only look at the perpetrators (those who actually raped/tortured/murdered person regardless of age here)?
Winning Position: It would not convert anyone
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It would not convert anyone
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This would lead to success
If you choose the affirmative position, you think that locking people in a room of debate for a few years would lead to atleast some people being converted to one side or another. People in the room would receive food and other supplies for disputing. The question is, do you think people could persuade people from one side to join their side if they debated for YEARS? How about if everything had to be said in a certain way, a way that sparks the least conflict or mental opposition? (ex: A: "God exists... look at everything around you." B: "You don't know that. The world isn't proof that God exists." would be an example of a reply that may trigger resistence. The reply that sparks the least resistence would be: B: "Are you sure about that? Is the existence of the universe proof, necessarily, that god exists? What if another god exists?"
Winning Position: Unresolved
For all of you people who don't know, many people DO go to jail innocent. You can read about it, or just observe cases in which people are not yet declared innocent but it's pretty clear they are, or you may not be so sure they are innocent but the way they arrived to a "guilty" verdict is scary and totally unsufficient.This quote inspired this debate: "Actually, I have lost all faith in the justice system altogether. After seeing so many stories like this where people go to jail for things they never did or have no fault over happen way too many times. I'm sad to say that the part of me that believed in justice is dead now. I have truly lost all faith in justice. Innocent people in jail and some about to die for things that they either never did or control are way too common these days. Yet the ones that frame these innocents get to live their lives freely knowing that they literally got away with murder. I have some faith in the government but none when it comes to justice. It's rather sad when someone reaches that point."Don't ignore the issue. Going to jail for shit you never did is completely real. You have no idea how many people who were convicted guilty that you read about are actually innocent when you don't know how they got to the verdict. I think some supervision that seeks to see that courts conform to a general standard guideline that is created out of *known* cases of innocence, and past court mistakes, would help. The fact that innocent people were jailed using such irresponsibility should be ENOUGH to get the prosecute-hungry people to shut the hell up and do their job fairly. I feel so sorry for the innocents in jail. Jail can make a toughened person out of someone who never belonged there in the first place. Some cases have to be (or should be?!) downright ILLEGAL. I would mad as FUCK if they let me out! I'd go shoot the people who put me in there (okay, I wouldn't let them make a murderer out of me but they better pay me some serious cash... puts weight? then just stop jailing innocents!)