I read a lot of debates here, talking about religion as if it was something fake, meant only to influence people and their actions. Why do people percieve it that way instead of seeing it as a guidance, like it was originally mean to be?

What could convince a christian to convert to atheism? I'm looking for strong arguments, not like "Because we're smarter than you christians" or "Cuz there's no God."

We all know buddah was an idiot and was stupid but was he as stupid as he looked and dumb as he sounded when he talked> Fatboy most likely was he was ignorant to the truth

   The future of Christianity is a circumcised future, no just in the physical sense, but in the growing realization that the end, in the very real sense of the word, has already come upon us. The future of the society, as well as the future of religion, was already established and well decided when the Berlin Wall came crashing down and the Soviet Union was no more. Indeed, after a fair fight to the finish, God Himself and his only Son, Joshua ben Joseph (Jesus) had thoroughly defeated the tyrannical forces of evil and had quietly won a thousand years of peace. The International Communist movement was indeed a spiritual conspiracy as well as an intellectual battleground. In reality, God and Jesus, both circumcised, led the West to victory over the Evil Empire which was led by the Greco-Roman god Zeus (Jupiter) and his son, the raving Leftist intellectual known as Apollo, the uncircumcised Greco-Roman god of the sun. Now, I am willing to concede that it may take some and some persuasion, but the future of Christianity is circumcised, and there is no turning back... 

It's not really a question, it's an invite, an invite to convert me if you will. I am an athiest and more sure in my 'beleif' if you will then most, however I'd like to invite any intelligent man or woman who genuinly beleive in a omnipitent and omnipresent God or gods in a literal sense to try and convert me. Now to do this all you have to do for me is answer a few questions, some questions that have in my mind convinced me of my personal beleif in the lack of a God. They are questions of pure logic and if you can give me a satisfactory answer to any one of them without resorting to the usual genralisations and leaps of blind faith backed by no evidence.

As I said they are questions of logic and mathamatics, truth in it's purest form, answer a single one with logic and you will have achieved what no other has, however if you can't answer a single on based on facts or truth, then, just for me, really question your beleifs, just for a minute.

If God is not ruled by the laws of nature then he is a being of pure chaos, something totally unlike any common interpretation of a God, something so other that it is beyond the scale of human thought to even think about. If however he is bound by the laws of nature then he is not omnipotent, he is not able to break the laws of nature and therefore the laws of nature are god.

Any omnipotent omnipresent being, by the very definition, cannot exist. If something is all knowing and has existed forever then it cannot know how it came into existence, if it did know then it wouldn't have existed forever and wouldnt be a very impressive god. Also for a being whom everything is possible 2 + 2 = 5, so does 2+3 = 5, so does 10,000,000,000 + 999,999,999 = 5. Meaning that anything that is possible, and remember for our god everything is, is possible in an infinite number of ways.

For a simple end to my argument, if god knows everything, then he can never know that he knows everything, meaning ofcourse the he doesnt and therefore isn't god.

Just using simple logic the existence of anything that exist for infinity and knows everything is impossible, by the very means we define the world and the laws that control everything, god cannot exist.

So hey, I wrote an argument and I need you to rip it apart. See, I think it makes logical sense. But that's because I wrote it, and everything I write makes sense at the time. I'd hate to use it and THEN realize that it's full of holes. So if there's some flaw in the logic, point it out.

This was originally written as a series of messages to a kind of dumb person, so it's in a somewhat simple, conversational format. Also, it's pretty long so I'm going to post it as a comment.

Do you subscribe to a particular religion, and if so, what makes you believe in that one over any other belief system?

Why do all the bad things in the bible and folk stories happen because of women? (i.e. eve and the apple, pandora and the box)

Post what ever you want!!!

Is Atheism really worth not knowing what happens after death?

A small lesson 4 the atheists and agnostics, christian from islam even though u r prejudice!?

Is it real, or is creationism magical bullshit?

WATCH THE VIDEO BELOW B4 COMMENTING PLEASE

I AM NOT SAYING DEFINITELY BUT AM ONLY USING IF.   SO BE REASONABLE AS I'M.

BEIEVERS PLEASE DON'T ANSWER OR ADD COMMENTS THNKS

THE QUESTION IS

WHAT IF THE HEREAFTER IS TRUE?

TRUE AS TOMORROW HELL FIRE IS TRUE AS TOMORROW AND ETERNAL PUNISHMENT IS TRUE AS TOMORROW IS. 

IS IT WORTH RISKING  (LETS JUST SAY 20,000 YEARS OF TORTUREMENT AND EVERY OTHER TYPE OF SUFFERING)  BY ENJOYING THIS LIFE OF (50-100 YEARS) 

WOULD YOU RATHER BETTER LIVE THIS LIFE BETTER BY BEING CARELESS ABOUT GOD

IN THE WORLD WHERE EVERY ONE IS BOUND TO DIE AND LOSE EVERY WEALTH EARNED.

PLEASE DON'T TELL ME WHY THE HEREAFTER WON'T EXIST THAT'S WHY AM USING THE WORD ( IF ) IT DOES EXIST IS IT WORTH NOT TAKE PRECAUTIONARY WARNING GIVEN TO U.

'No,It's not important... it starts wars and causes millions lives to be lost senselessly every year due to a false belief. If god existed rape wouldn't.'

What do you have to say about the aforementioned. 

God could have destroyed us but he didn't so we should love him is like saying "My husband could have beaten me but he doesn't so I should love him" In other words, your love for god is based on threats that he may destroy you.

i belive in god but i want to see what others think about it and why they do or dont

are morality and ethics different?

is morality exclusive to the religious and ethics exclusive to the non religious?

usually the two terms are used to substitute one another....but are they different?

can the athiest be moral or only ethical?

and the religious be ethical or only moral?

PLEASE PROVIDE LINKS TO AUTHORS,THEORIES, OR OTHER RELIABLE SITES THAT MAY SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM

If someone is a faithful religious follower can they also be a logical person? Does a logical person also need a certain amount of faith in the things that can't be proven? Are these two qualities in completely separate and incompatible spheres or not? Note: I have defined faith as the willingness to believe something that is impossible to prove or has been proven false. Feel free to amend that definition.

If someone attempts to use logic to prove the tenets of their religion, can they really be said to have faith?

If someone believes the claims of one fictional book, especially at the expense of observable facts, can they really be said to have logic?

Which quality is more important to you? Is it one, or the other, or both and if so, how have you found a way to balance both of them?

(I realize this debate may sound biased, because I don't have much a grasp of the perspective of faithful people. But I made this with the intent of learning, so please don't think this is meant to be antagonistic.)

PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO BELOW AND THEN COMENT OR DISPUTE EACH CLAIM IF WRONG? PLEASE SPECIFY WHAT YOU'RE DISPUTING.

In our world nothing is unique. Therefore, Who created God? and what was he doing before he created the world?

Did he appear from nothing? Does he have parents, colleagues, friends?

Did he create other planets or other races?

Or as in my belief or lack of, God was created by man as an explanation for things we cannot yet understand or to console us in our fear of death.

 Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans or Baptists 

CLICK HERE FOR PROOF AND DETAILS OF ALL OF THE 38k DENOM. OF CHRISTINITY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations

SO WHICH ONE IS RIGHT WHEN EACH IS OPOSING THE OTHER

EACH CLAIMS 2 B DA BEST AND MOST TRUTHFUL

HOW DID YOU KNOW YOURS IS RIGHT ONE

IS IT BECAUSE YOU'VE TRIED ALL THE 38,000

IF NOT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT, EXPERIENCE, OR THE PROPER CREDENTIALS TO PROCLAIM YOURS IS THE BEST

I'M A MUSLIM IF I'M TRYING TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY DOES IT MEAN I'M LANDING IN A MESS

WE USE ONE BOOK CALLED THE QURAN SHOULD I COME TO CHRISTIANITY

LOADS OF VERSIONS OF BIBLE WHICH ONE IS IT I SHOULD FOLLOW I MEAN WHICH ONE IS FROM GOD & WHICH IS FROM MAN.

I THINK CHRISTIANS SHOULD JUST READ THE QURAN BECAUSE IT SOLVES EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEIR AND ANY OTHER PROBLEM EXISTING WITHIN A RELIGION AND ON EARTH.

IT IS WORTH READING I'M NOT SAYING CONVERT TO ISLAM YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MUSLIM BUT JUST USE YOUR BRAIN WELL (JUST KNOW THINGS)

20K WITHIN U.S. 100K WITHIN THE WESTERN WORLD CONVERTING TO ISLAM. IT IS NOT BECAUSE WE BLOW THEIR BRAINS BUT YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHY.

I HAVE A BIBLE AT HOME  THEREFORE I'M NOT SUGESTING SOMETHING I WOULDN'T DO. SO READ THE QURAN AND QUALIFY 2 B A JUDGE. THANKS.