if you did have a machine capable of debate, it would be wearing the pants in your relationship with it.
You're right bronto, I am the FactMachine and Nom is my girlfriend.
Perhaps
Why do you come into random old debates and spam them like this? Are you just point farming or something?
Someone told me once that there are infinite dimensions and he has been to 67 of them while taking ayahuasca.
You are correct. We never leave. We are the collective, you shall join us or die.
All the more proof that capitalism is designed to take from the worthy and give to the worthless. It rewards the evil for their greed and rewards the gay through mass appeal because most people are gay.
I'm gunna have to side with Nom on this one. I don't really see how stifling creativity and downgrading the quality is worth it just to pump out lower quality material at a higher rate. Also it doesn't incentivise quality or honesty so I don't see the point.
It incentivises it by limiting it and if you disagree you're a commie. Nice.
I think you hit on an important point there , bronto. People who feel a lack of 'purpose' or 'mission(s)' in life tend to get very lost and depressed
When you look at it that way it sounds like a valid point but bear in mind bronto is a creationist and he is referring to objective purpose here so what he is saying is actually retarded.
All politics boils down to a tug of war between people trying to hold on to/gain power and differential economic advantage and people trying to achieve freedom and equality.
Nothing is what it is of it's own accordance, not even the human mind. Even if there aren't things in your life directly causing you to be angry then it is an electro-chemical imbalance in the bag of physical and not spiritual in any way whatsoever period chemicals and electrical connections that is the object that is the human mind that doesn't have free will or metaphysical properties at all because it is a fucking worthless bag of fucking meat. Basically my point is
A) You don't have free will or thought so if you are angry it's not a choice
B) You are a worthless object and I have the right to eat you
If you go all the way left you are basically a communist, if you go all the way right you are either an anarcho-capitalist or a fascist depending on how libertarian or authoritarian you are.
@Conservanazi
Good point, but there is still evidence that grains destroy your teeth even if that guy is full of shit. It's a known fact that the phytic acid and starchy sugars erode enamel.
Not to mention excess grains could be used to feed livestock.
Back when it wasn't used as the primary food source it wasn't a problem. Now they feed cows primarily grains to make them fat. That makes both the cows, and the meat you consume less healthy because they don't have the nutrients they would normally have on their natural diet.
To get to the other side.
The other side of famine, you mean?
Well, grains don't fight back.
Actually they do. Did you know there is such a thing as "antinutrients" ? Some plants produce antinutrients, not to mention toxic chemicals to protect themselves.
Cause Jews like bagels.. If you eat bagels, your farts won't stink..
There is no proven correlations between bagels and the smell of your flatulence.
as Gods CHOSEN people, our farts don't stink..
"God's chosen people" refers to the Hebrews you dumb fuck. You are a european atheist go fuck yourself.
I am a man and hate farting, I don't find it funny at all. It's disgusting and immature and if you think it's funny then I know you are a retard. Also it means you're a disgusting bag of unhealthy feces gas if you fart a lot.
Good day and welcome to the show
I'll be your host as always, Alex Jones
we've got a very special guest today, Mingiwuwu is here to suck my phallus bone
I've got a neurologically unbalanced dome
Homophobia aside
I didn't mean gay as in homosexual. I already explained that I'm bisexual and I like to suck black cocks the size of horse wankers. You are gay as in corny and soft.
his flow is only surpassed by Paz.
LOL. Paz is not a flow-centric rapper by any means. And K's voice is better than Paz. Vinnie Paz sounds like what Alex Jones would sound like if he was a rapper.
There's literally no way to disprove this without lying.
We both know who is lying just to piss the other off you troll. All it takes for me to piss others off is to try to tell them the fucking truth.
You just like voices that are borderline Justin Beiber material. Your taste is gay.
I agree. Instead we should use electronic books because books require the butt hole molesting of trees by using paper.
Capitalism is not needed in the UK ???????? Explain why there are pubs you Dummy
CAPITALISM: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit
SOCIALISM: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
I want you to comprehend how lacking in other departments the rap is and then appreciate that without using a single difficult word this rap is god tier in all respects.
It's not really as perfect as you think and it's not better than the one I sent you. It is good though.
@Outlaw
they come from labour and marx wanted the labour production to be for the lobaurers who balaberred instead of the hoogle-nooby jolly-hop noggerwiffles. mmkay?
What makes it better?
We've already been over this shit you fascist boob. The reason I like higher vocabulary raps is because I'm a nerd (AKA intelligent).
I accept the way, save me please mmm you sexy genius save me.
First you must realize that you do not truly know that the things you believe are true, and you must abandon your beliefs that the world is simulated, based on numerical codes, and that the earth is flat and your gods are real. Next you must realize that the true path is not the popular path, and many of those you consider autistic are simply outside the range of normal thought and cannot relate or be related to by the average person without wearing a metaphorical mask. Third you must realize that reality by definition cannot be subjective and that your consciousness exists within reality and depends on external input so stop being a subjectivist wanker doodle.
If I'm free to do everything, then I'm not really free to do anything..
Fascinating logic there Excon.
There’s no debating that the young people are done with raw capitalism.
That's good I suppose, but the problem is they don't know what to replace it with other than the state.
They may preserve a lil free market with reigns on it.
There never was a free market in human history except maybe 12,000 years ago. But, did Capitalism kill itself??
Capitalism is transforming into totalitarian corporacratic technocracy. Most of the wealth is already just numbers on a computer screen, it won't be long before the AI comes in.
Is it just outdated in a technology world?
Yes, human society itself will have to become scientific rather than being based on social constructs in order to properly manage the planets resources as a global and technological society.
Are people tired of constant bubbles that bust?
Yes.
Maybe young people have too many choices- maybe they’re ready for a more simplistic existence?
In the type of society I promote, things will be more complex and you will have more choices. It will however be more straightforward because everything we do as a society will be based on a technical approach to the physical world rather than more abstract and conceptual things such as money.
It may make you feel better to feel in the majority little sheep but not only is that a logical fallacy in itself (appeal to popularity)
But you think the ability to charm people makes you less of a dick head than a genuinely good person who comes off like an ass hole. Based on what you said before, a popular sociopath is a better person than a better person who isn't popular.
Government is about tyranny. Capitalism is an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit. Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
I don't think you understand,
If you expect to be understood, then don't talk to dick holes like Amarel.
freedom is a bad thing overall. A utopian society would more tamed than free
Truly intelligent and rational beings cannot be tamed, if you have a tamed society you have a stagnated society where humans cannot outgrow a certain level of consciousness due to the need to keep them domesticated. Also didn't I already explain to you why "utopia" is a false concept of what a society should be?
Freedom means you can do whatever you want. When you are truly intelligent then what you want to do is what is logical and what is logical for your own self interests also coincides with what is best for civilization as long as you have a real civilization to coincide with, because civilization produces more than anyone can on there own.
There is not circumstance wherein the people are literally the government save for anarchy.
And?
Try to be better than Nazi. The potential is there.
The way you feel about someone does not define how better or worse they are than anybody. Both me and Nom are better than you because we are both objectively more intelligent than you.
That's why we have monopoly laws. Maybe you missed them...
Then why does the Federal Reserve exist and literally have a monopoly on the entire US monetary system?
Socialism means government involvement.
Socialism means the people are the government. stfu you worthless swine.
But Marx raped his maid , drove two children too suicide ,pissed and gambled away his wife’s inheritances , called blacks low brutes and detested Jews .......
Citation needed.
Their legacy is a much better indicator of who is a worse person. Given that measure, Marx is much worse than Washington. Of course, if you hate America and love communism, well then, Marx is your man.
Many words, little meaning. George Washington was a scumbag and you don't know anything about Marx or what he advocated because everything you know about communism comes from cold war propaganda and from observing fascist states who used the promise of communism as a means to get in power, and then did nothing that Marx actually advocated.
This alone can land you in prison if any of your online blogs lead back to the real you. Watch out what you threaten.
He really doesn't deserve any penalty just for saying that. Your attitude towards threats and bullying on the internet is very skewed.
A) It's not a credible threat and he probably wouldn't even do it if given the chance.
B) Bronto is a dick head who puts out manipulative and deceptive right wing propaganda designed to demonize anyone with a legitimate position.
C) The only one who has figured out Nom's true identity (me) will not share it with you or anyone else who would try to censor him just for being mean to peoples gay little feelings. The truth is more important than vulgarity or rudeness, that's why Addltd and Bronto and Dermot etc. deserve to be banned and Addltd shouldn't be allowed to censor me for swearing while he let's people promote demonstrably false propaganda.
Enjoy your last hurrahs on here , goodbye ...................
It's utterly pathetic how you talk a load of shit pretending to know what you're talking about and when you are proven wrong you somehow manage to completely block out any truth from entering your brain and respond with the juvenile retorts of a lobotomized baboon that thinks it's a Harvard professor. You literally just ejaculate a load of pure fucking stupidity all over your computer screen and into the face, mouth and tits of this forum, and when you are proven wrong you simply ignore it or worse yet, you rewrite your opponents argument and think that somehow magically makes them wrong.
This is why ancoms are always hilarious to me, you think you can structure the anarchy and organise society... Everyone is free to be as selfish as they please, genius.
but in that setting, selfishness in that sense would not be logical or even be in ones own self interest. If you live in a despotic condition it's perfectly logical to be as selfish as possible but when you are in a culture that is peaceful and co-operative it's in your selfish interest to contribute to that so you can reap it's benefits. You will get more out of it if you don't try to fuck anyone over because the system will maximize abundance of everything by eliminating crippling and contrived constructs and merely focusing on using every technical capacity we have to improve our quality of life, and if you fail to contribute or understand then you will be simply be augmented with biotechnology or re-educated. This will not entail brainwashing or altering the brain in any way that would reduce your capacity to have an ego or personal will and desires because all that is required to make you conform is to teach you objective reason and/or make you more intelligent
There is no more ignorant and unsophisticated a notion than money. just about everything related to capitalist economics revolves around profit. the CD Leftists can see that reason is more valid than social constructs. To them, there won't be business people, but there will be productive people, because without business people and retarded people only productive people are left. That production will be done for the things it produces, and everyone will gain from the products of civilization , just because they aren't retarded. They don't understand social constructs or authority, but they presume to understand how to make people fit into alternative systems of people where people actually act like intelligent and civilized life forms rather than people. It's the wrong kind of question because the world is full of people who aren't right kind of people and few enlightened ones exist.
There are leftist business people, there are even socialist and Marxist ones. As a far left Socialist Marxist RBE supporter I will say that I would own a business, but not because I think businesses should exist, because I live in a capitalist economy. The concept of business and capitalism arised from right wing societies, and even a left winger can call for a more regulated version of those things, but at the farthest ends of the left such things don't even exist. If you had a truly free market capitalist economy it wouldn't truly be a free society, because those with the most capital would serve as the government and capital would naturally be increasingly be concentrated in the hands of a few over time because simply having wealth makes it easier to get more wealth. Thus a croney capitalist system is the natural result of a free market.
@Amarel
I literally spent an hour writing a reply to this but Addltd banned my account and I lost the text. sorry but I can't sit here and do it all again.
Al Gore's Internet proves your words ?
The internet was made with technology and science, not political ideology.
Show up some proof you crying baby !!!!!!!!!!!
Show up with some facts you winjing cod piece cobbler.
Well stop crying then !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not crying, you are just stupid and use that as a deflection.
STUPOR STUPID the only one denying your DNA test is you. Because in your mind you are not a Jew but you are an Atheist !
You have been off your meds for far too long, you cattywampus boob.
You cannot prove you are a shining star in the universe ?????????????????????
I don't know about that, but I can prove that I'm brighter than you.
Stop crying you poor infantile fool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't give a fuck if you think I'm emotional bitch. The truth is I haven't cried since I was 6, now I only get angry.
Now you can conflate to as how confused you are
Piss off you illiterate ankle biter.
Intelligent you are not by IQ alone !!!!! So what else you got ????????
I know you are Antrim, Chinaman and Cocopops.
U are Autistic ?????????? Now who would be surprised at that revaluation ?????
One shouldn't conflate the refusal to conform to social norms with an inability to.
Do you wander in the deep dark crevices of were your head is ??????????
Do you wander through the waterfall looking for intelligent people to try and systematically lower the IQ of the population by launching a torrent of unequivocal horse bollocks at them?
How about now? Any time right? How about now! Tell me again! Please! :D
Who's autistic again?
Nice results Nom. I think in reality I am pretty much all the way left and all the way libertarian.
According to that test I'm here:
Amazing, you are actually just a little less left than me and most shocking of all in the libertarian zone. This is proof the test doesn't work that well.
I will be a scumbag to the scum and be an angelic member to those who deserve to remain. You are scum and I will do everything the rules allow to make your life here hell until you are eradicated from this site, you vile cancer to the community.
Wow, what a self righteous dick.
When anarchy is orderly it is always via 'might is right' mentality which then immediately leads to unimaginably unfair and brutal tyranny. :)
Not in the scenario when humanity is not retarded and insane.
So how do you justify killing them? Because the portion is small? Is that justification to kill?
It's better to kill a minority of insane people than to kill over 99% of people or force them to deny biology.
Killing mentally disabled people is 'post-birth eugenics' so I hope you understand what you support is quite inconsistent. xD
You lack comprehension.
It never works because it ignores human need for motivation and innovation.
Without money how did we survive in the past when our only motivation was survival and prosperity for ourselves and our tribe?
This is a case of the 'other side' being so undesirable rather than the reverse.
Oligarchy is always tyrannical, but anarchy can be orderly depending on the nature of the beings involved. With a sufficiently intelligent population you would only need reason to rule and not an actual institution or group of people.
This is better because you can also help smarter, sexier and stronger people become the newer generation.
That would only happen if eugenics is involved, which is not the case. Humans are over populating the planet and if everyone was required to reproduce it would only create more dysgenics.
Between the two extremes, I would say the other is the less desirable one due to the aftermath.
This is the only time you haven't supported the opposite of the correct position.
Killing people for being transgender doesn't explain anything about why you aren't killing cis people for being cis nor does it justify itself in any way.
A small portion of people are transgender, if you ask me killing a small portion of humanity is better than forcing over 99% of people to deny biology and pretend to be the opposite of what they are.
I am curious as to how 'if there is religion, one can still hold the state sacred' disproves that 'if the state outlaws religion the only thing left to worship is the state'. :)
I am curious as to how not having religion means that you must worship the state. Why can't you just worship nothing?
So, you DENY my science based DNA test..
Nope, I know you are part of an ethnic group that is CALLED Jews. What you don't understand is that Jew is an arbitrary label which has nothing to do with science, because you are not ethnically Hebrew and you don't believe in Judaism. Calling you a Jew is not science, it is a name given to your ethnic group derived from your history of practicing the religion of Judaism. Your DNA doesn't know that your ethnic group practices Judaism or is called Jews, because that is culture and language not science.
Jews are a RACE.
Judaism is a religion which was created by Hebrews, for Hebrews. Judaism says that Hebrews who believe in and follow Judaism are God's chosen people, not white atheists.
Merit only obviously. If anyone questions this they are a retard. If people actually ARE suffering from oppression or the aftermath of it the answer is to unoppress them and fix up their communities, not give them special treatment. You can kiss my black ass if you disagree.
SCIENCE DENYING
Can you even tell me what DNA stands for without resorting to a search engine?
The religion of Marxism has caused the death of hundreds of millions, more than all other religions combined this century.
Marxism has caused precisely 0 deaths because Marxist countries don't exist.
The press. The press is controlled by corporations or funded by the state.
First of all that verse has nothing to do with politics, second of all just because a book that says the world was created in seven days and Jesus has red eyes and flies on a magic candle (revelations) says something doesn't make it true.
Good comment.
That was Factmachine's alt account, you said you where going to ban him instantly and instead you praised him and upvoted him.
No, your being is entirely emotionless. They are dead inside and see themselves as nothing more than a slave to the community/society they are in and a resource to be used by the others in it.
You say all this simply because they don't dwell in the entirely subjective world that you do. How pathetic.
What you see as stupidity is called not being a robot that isn't conscious of its own existence and which doesn't experience motivation or the will to live
The opposite is true. What I am referring to is a more conscious superhuman being, which is still capable of feeling but not stupid enough to believe in superstitious concepts or put "feels over facts". The motivation and will of these beings is far greater than you could imagine, as they are driven by curiosity and a will to improve things whereas humans are motivated by selfishness and by being programmed with superstitious concepts.
My humanity sees the logic in behaving in certain ways, your humanity needs to be threatened and programmed from birth with social constructs just to refrain from murdering each other. Your humanity is a bunch of brain washed robots who dwell within a world of concept rather than physical reality, thus they are far less conscious and motivated by base instinct layered under heaps of concepts drilled into their head by society to control them.
In other words unless the species of living beings in the society/community is not human, 'orthodox' socialism/communism always will fail.
In a way you're finally correct about something. It will be achieved in stages and eventually in the transhuman Type One Civilization we will have an RBE system. For now humans are too stupid for it to work. Marxism is objectively superior to fascism and is the closest thing other than RBE to the future system, when humanity is truly civilized.
My life is insignificant.
This is the only truth I have ever heard you speak.
Nonsense, I know people on it and they are fine.
That's why I said "it can work" you fucking pleb.
That's not what the food pyramid says.
The food pyramid was made up by corporations, which automatically means that everything it says is merely an attempt to increase profit. Also the paleo diet (which you seem to support) goes against the food pyramid. In other words you are so stupid you deserve to die.
Language is a social construct, which also makes gender a social construct!
Your life having value and me not being allowed to kill you for being so stupid is a social construct.
You have to use people's preffered pronouns, otherwise you show disrespect.
Reality doesn't care about your preferred pronouns, if you think it's disrespectful to call you what you are then you are stupid.
so adding a few more pronouns should be very fine, or even removing the current ones.
Sure, just make sure it's based in objective reality first. The word dog is a social construct but it still refers to a real thing.
He was asking about the RULES - NOT what happens when the rules are violated.
Shut up excon, the rules are irrelevant when they can be broken at will by the ones who are supposed to uphold them. He asked if there is freedom of speech, the answer is no, because the "rule" of freedom of speech is a lie, and you can have that freedom taken away at any time.
If YOUR world, a waitress would be able to REFUSE to serve liquor if it offended her sensibilities, and her employer couldn't FIRE her..
No, there is a difference between losing your job because you have an opinion your boss doesn't like and losing your job because you refuse to do your job. You are a fucking clueless jackass who only says things to contradict other people without giving it any thought.
Superstition is the root of everything wrong with humanity. It's why humans subjectivize their reality more than any other species, it's why humans can be controlled by ideas and concepts (social constructs) and it's why humans form retarded beliefs instead of realizing when they don't know something and using reason and speculation.
The paleo diet is not balanced enough for most people but it can work. But I will say this, humans throughout history did not have grain/carb based diets until very recently. Before about 12,000 years ago, we would have only had a few starchy tubers or vegetables here and there, we never properly physiologically adapted to a diet high in sugars or grains.
No, there's not. Not only for the reasons you mention, but because the government can simply ignore their own rules if they want to bad enough and their willing to pull some strings. If they really see your speech as a threat to their power they can have you shut down or even killed, like what happened to MLK and JFK. Also, since America is ruled by money, you can have any of your "rights" violated by someone rich enough to get away with it, and if you are in someone else's business you can be fired and lose your livelihood for your speech (and many people are forced to work for other people's businesses in capitalist societies) and if you are a costumer you can be kicked out, because on business property it's corporate policy that decides your speech rights, not the constitution.
The original definition of gender is no different than sex. If you want to redefine the word arbitrarily then that's fine, but when I say gender I am referring to sex. Male and female are biological terms, you cannot be male or female unless you are referring to biological gender. You can dress how you want, think how you want, act how you want, and stick what you want in your ass, but the words male and female refer to biology, not a social construct or a state of mind.
I pointed out that there are perceptions of morality and then the objective morality itself.
There are only perceptions, there is no objective morality. The problem with theists is that their worldview allows them to consider subjective things and social constructs as objective truth because they think the universe was created by a sentient being. Saying that your morality is objective because your religion says so is no different than saying it's an objective fact that chicken tastes better than broccoli because god likes chicken more. What is objective is that children don't like to be molested and people don't like to be murdered, and that society is more productive and safe for everyone if people don't do those things. It's not the morality that's objective, it's the logic that certain behaviours are counter productive and we shouldn't do them.
Weird. I ask for a list of countries or territories that the U.S. took over and claimed as their own and you give me Nazi Germany, 2 Nazi allies, and a bunch of countries never owned by the United States.
The US practices economic imperialism rather than more traditional forms. That's why there are Mcdonald's restaurants in third world countries.
The goal of communism to end the exploitation of the working class by fat lazy bronto-like Jews. The goal of Nazism is to murder and exploit Jews. One simply tells the Jews they have to work just like everyone else and the other replaces the Jews with even worse Jews who hate Jews.
The Quran.
I was a muslim when I was 14-15 so I can tell you as someone who has read both the qur'an and hadiths that Nom and Mingi are right and you are a retard samwich.
Morality is an inherently religious concept.
Religion is an inherently fuck faced concept.
The proper way to raise a child in religion is to do what I did. We went to the library and researched every religion. Her and I sat and talked about what each believed and didnt believe. Then I took her to those churches so she could see for herself how they worshiped and operated. She was then free to make up her own mind.
Did you go over the only three sane perspectives in regard to spirituality, atheism, agnosticism and (maybe) deism?
Which animal are you?
He's a homo sapien, which is a type of ape.
Simple. The man never labored a day in his life, thus is the least qualified human on planet Earth to guide us on...labor...
Nigga how many times has Nom told you he was an economist and author.
