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EldonG(530) Clarified
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You left out the part about those parts being temporary, and the deficit going through the roof.

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Yes, this is definitely fact - though Muslim extremists are far more likely to cause terror attacks. The typical Muslim is not an extremist, though they hold some damn dangerous opinions - it's the radicalized ones that are most dangerous, whether Muslim or any sort of extremist.

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The idea that the number going higher is irrelevant is unbelievably dangerous and ignorant. We have to pay interest on that debt, and the debt is already higher than the GDP. The economy is growing, and that's good, and investment is good in a time like this - infrastructure (which is crumbling) for example, to keep growth moving - but that's not what's happening.

As wealth inequality expands, it's worth noting that the worst income inequality may have been a factor in the great depression, and the recession we're just climbing out of - and this tax restructuring promotes income inequality like never before.

I hope I don't have to explain the disaster if we actually plunge back into a recession - or even depression - as the debt spikes insanely.

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You really have no clue that he cut the deficit dramatically, do you? That we had a deficit of over 1.4 trillion when he assumed presidency, and 666 billion in 2017? (it was even lower for a while)

You completely missed that Bush jr doubled the debt after being left with a balanced budget, and Reagan literally tripled the debt. Did you know that?

https://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/us_deficit

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Actually, the economy is doing so well right now because of Obama's policies. No president can influence the economy greatly in their first year, before even releasing a budget - the economy always lags a minimum of a year, and depending on what the previous president has done, it can be much longer. We'll be feeling this tax restructuring for considerably longer, for instance - and whether it does good or ill to the GDP will be seen in coming years, not yet.

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It doesn't raise the debt by 1.5 trillion - it raises the deficit 1.5 trillion, over 10 years. That utterly skyrockets the debt. People keep failing to understand the difference - the deficit is the yearly cost of the budget beyond the income of the federal government.

The actual cost, to the debt, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget is 3-7 trillion, with best estimates of 5.5 t.

http://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-will-trumps-tax-plan-cost

Note: The CRFB is considered very non-biased:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/committee-for-a-responsible-federal-budget/

Trump's tax plan lowers the taxes on the rich and megacorporations, to give us this huge bump in deficit, with a little for the middle class and poor. The most dangerous possible outcome is that wealth disparity is linked with economic repression and even depression.

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/cache/files/91975589-257c-403b-8093-8f3b584a088c/income-inequality-brief-fall-2010-cmb-and-ces.pdf

The republicans championed lowering the deficit, until they lost their minds:

https://kevinbrady.house.gov/uploadedfiles/jec republicanstudycommitteemaximizingamericasprosperity6212011.pdf

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In some cases, like FromWithin, I favor post-birth abortions. Clear enough?

1 point

You obviously need to read it again. How many wives did Solomon have?

EldonG(530) Clarified
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This looks like it goes into greater detail than I've ever read - it addresses precocious puberty as well as general physical maturity:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266867/

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Your first point is largely true - but people certainly mature faster when they take on responsibility. I'm not suggesting we go back to child labor, but if you want them more mature at a younger age, ramping up responsibility matters.

People mature faster physically now largely due to improved diet. I can get you sources,if you would like them.

I am being honest, and I recognize what you're bringing up, here -though I'd really suggest that even in today's society, most 16 year olds are vastly more adult than child.

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If you want to make that argument, the brain finally reaches peak, on average, at around 25. We should raise it, and really make them anxious, by your point. I'm a fan of small amounts for the younger crowd, at mealtimes, like they do it in Europe.

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It wasn't all that long ago that beer brewing in Texas belonged to Shiner...and Pabst, I suppose...but it's wide-open now, and there are so many excellent breweries that I've lost track. Probably my favorite at this time is Real Ale - they brew a number of my favorites - Black Quad and Real Heavy stand out - but Revolver is amazing with their Blood and Honey as is Lakewood with the Temptress. The Kraken has to be the best I've ever had, but finding it borders on insane, and it doesn't come cheap!

EldonG(530) Clarified
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Actually, I'm in Austin...posting this from a Starbucks, no less.

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As one human to another, I wish goodness on your relationship.

There's a lot of truth in your post. I'm in total agreement here.

EldonG(530) Clarified
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I never could get into black metal - well, not past some of the more theatrical stuff, like Dimmu Borgir, Gorgoroth, and maybe a little Behemoth.

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Beer, liquor, wine - but that's today. Tomorrow it may be the reverse. I do enjoy them all, in moderation - but the only one I can call myself moderately knowledgeable about is beer.

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I'm not even vaguely sure what could be wrong about it. It's a tradition. I'm essentially non-traditional, but I'm glad that the cultural traditions get preserved.

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I drink a stupid number of coffee drinks, from black to latte, with a preference for iced. I love good beer, my favorites being good barleywines and Belgian quads. I love Cape Cods and Long Island Iced Teas as far as mixed drinks go, and I'm insanely partial to amaretto.

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Never actually read the bible, have you? Try it sometime.

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Not on any legal ground, but honestly, if they aren't having children, why would I care?

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Yes, I definitely would - but it's a complicated thing. Emotions are unpredictable things, and the future is a lot like juggling, when you're learning - it's amazing how little things can become magnified, and it all fails. I'd make sure not to go into it with blinders on, but it's got beautiful possibilities.

I hope it works out well, whatever you decide.

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I really don't think it would help. I can see some good reason for it, but I'm also concerned that we'd get some innocent ones along with the guilty. Repeat offenders, genetic evidence...things like that, then yes.

2 points

I really don't care.

If there was something there, I wouldn't shed a single tear as they cuffed her- but I didn't expect a damn thing. Is she a criminal? Likely. Are the republicans barking up the wrong tree? As always. What she's actually guilty of, they do on a daily basis - it's called selling out the nation.

1 point

That's not "backfiring", that's addressing the issue. It's not a partisan issue.

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Districts need to be undone, and made into regular areas that make sense geographically, and laws need to be put into place preventing this bullshit anti-democratic nonsense.

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The longer you treat them as kids, the longer they'll act like kids. When we changed the drinking age to 21, what happened?

When we assumed most were adults after puberty, they got jobs and led responsible (more or less) lives as young teens. Physically, people mature younger, now, but emotional and mental maturity is stunted because the societal message is that they're children.

This is how snowflakes get created.

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We know that Project Veritas does this - you know, the real fake news of James O'Keefe.

1 point

I want to stay informed. What you call attacks, I see as healthy disgust.

EldonG(530) Clarified
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...and Obama. Don't forget his part in this. And congress, for not having the balls to stop it.

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As despicable as they were, ousting them caused a vacuum of power - and believe it or not, it was always in their best interests to keep the terrorists under their thumb - so they did. Without their hamfisted rule, things got worse - as I predicted.

1 point

I'm pretty familiar with them, but I could really only name the more well-known ones.

Edit: It's worth it to read them. They're short:

http://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/founding-documents/bill-of-rights/

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Bernie Sanders' record speaks for itself. He has fought for the people all of his career, starting in college, when he fought segregation. He marched with MLK. He's been an effective senator, even through republican senates and administrations, and has stood out as the single most popular politician for years now.

Trump has surely scammed an astounding number of people, if you're the sort of person that would call that leadership.

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Easily both. Bush brought it into being, but with Obama's drone wars, he's made recruiting as easy as pie.

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This is why Mueller's investigation is the most important thing there is in the USA, right now:

Trump's Failure - or Treason
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No, or more specifically, Mueller is pretty damn non-partisan, leaning conservative, and it's up to him. Of course, Trump was a democrat most of his life, so is the question - do they refuse to arrest Trump? (He was never a liberal, of course)

Not being a cop or a democrat, I'd have to guess yes.

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If he makes it through his first - if he even stays out of graybar hotel - his approval numbers are so low that his odds of winning against any candidate better than Hillary Clinton (an abysmal candidate) are astronomically poor.

In fact, if they ran Clinton again (PLEASE fucking NO!) she'd likely beat him.

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Of course.

It may be an unusual stance for someone who is otherwise progressive- but then, we don't walk in lockstep. I believe in the death penalty, in specific circumstances, and I'm a progressive.

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CNN is typically honest. CNN has sources. CNN has actually been known to look for corroboration.

Alex Jones is typically a conspiracy nut. Alex Jones has fruitcakes. Alex Jones has been known to look for echo chambers.

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Strictly speaking, it's unconstitutional. I wish him the best of luck, because I damn sure don't trust in any gods.

3 points

Investigated for what? Just...whatever? Just waste money and see if anything is found?

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LOL!

Look at the one issue imbecile rage! If you can't figure it out by now, I'll never answer an imbecile like you!

I will enjoy needling you mercilessly until you leave the site, though. You're useless.

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He's absolutely correct. What he fails to mention is that people care about your feelings, and they spin facts. Ben Shapiro is as guilty of it as many - though not nearly the worst.

That's the problem, you see - and really, we all do it, to some degree or another. You can find facts to support almost any stance, and even make those that don't seem like they do. Edward Bernays was the expert on this - as Freud's nephew, he took the theories and reverse-engineered them, thus becoming the father of P.R. (He coined the term public relations, when he realized that propaganda carried a bad connotation. He wrote a book on it, too - literally titled Propaganda.)

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There the idiot goes again. I didn't vote democrat, no matter how many times you post it. I explained, in detail (for those with enough brain cells to understand) my stance, and I DON'T SUPPORT NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS.

Dumbfuck.

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Yes, there are a lot of excellent sites on the internet - just about every college has one, and they're typically chock-full of good information, usually peer-reviewed, and loaded with sources.

Wikipedia is, however, damn useful, even if it fails at times. It's worth checking sources, or looking for corroboration.

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I smell desperation. Franken was absolutely one of the firebrands on the left, and his loss will be felt deeply. He's truly stood out, and one of the few that I'm not so sure was bought and paid for. He actually did fight for women's rights.

EldonG(530) Clarified
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To be sure, I don't believe in guilty until proven innocent, but I'm also not an idiot, and don't think it's a good idea to put a man in the senate when the local mall says he's not even fit for them.

Now - Doug Jones prosecuted KKK members that firebombed a church, killing four little girls. That's someone worth backing...and I'm not even a democrat. Priorities in life? Yeah, I'd say.

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LOL!

It's hardly "lib colleges", just one dorm with a childish display - but it is pretty sad. I wonder how many students are flat-out embarrassed.

Now, I have no real issue with it, but it's a definite WTF. Coddling is for preschool and retirement homes. College is for real learning.

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Just a thought - the majority of those that end up doing all of those things profess to be christians. Just saying.

In fact, according to the census, the US prison population is reported as 28% Protestant, 24% Catholic, 8.4% Muslim, 3.1% Native American, 2% Pagan, 1.7% Jewish, 1.5% Churches of Christ, 1% Buddhist, and less than 1% in all other categories - atheist accounting for .1%.

What's up with all the religious criminals? 99.9% of the criminals in the USA are not atheist!

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-prisoners-less-likely-to-be-atheists/

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Perhaps you could show me where someone is? I don't see it.

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Yes, that's exactly his mindless plan. It's stunning - I answered him too, with nuance...and that's one thing he has zero comprehension of.

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Definitely pro-choice, though not pro-abortion. It's a bad choice, a last-ditch choice, and I doubt many women make that choice easily - but there are times when it's the best choice. Most women, from my understanding, that have had an abortion, have emotional troubles on and off throughout their lives over it.

That can be pretty terrible, but finding oneself with an unwanted child, often in a bad situation, can be worse.

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"Intelligent response", it claims!

Gee, can't you parrot the writings of dead religious zealots in other debates?

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Hey, halfwit, when he failed with Strange, he was all over Moore, even saying that he probably had the wrong guy to begin with - but that's just facts, and you don't like them.

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Seriously? He thinks Obama is smarter than Palin, and that makes him a democratic puppet? Holy crap, the world is controlled by the democrats, and I never noticed.

Seriously, love him or hate him, Obama is a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard and Constitutional lawyer, while Palin might actually be smarter than a box of rocks.

1 point

You still laughing now? Moore...the Trump surrogate...was rejected.

In Alabama.

In your face.

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Oh, I get it. Now you're going to tell me that democrats are liberals, right?

EldonG(530) Clarified
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Obstructing justice for firing the investigator investigating you...what planet do you come from?

Oh, and Clinton.

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And this has what to do with Trump's unreleased tax documents?

EldonG(530) Clarified
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That's not butthurt. That's the truth he knows, and it's pretty objective.

Truth may be an outdated concept where you come from, but I like it.

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Ummm, no. Charges have definitely been brought up on sitting presidents...for less.

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Well then, I'm not your guy to discuss that, as I don't want him in any government position, unless he's good at catching stray dogs.

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He said he would, just like every other recent president. It's about being honest, and showing that no foreign government has you by the balls, financially...

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LOL!

I never would have voted for Hillary. We could talk all night about how bad a candidate Hillary was, and how shitty a human being she is.

My only question is...who's buying the beer?

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The concept that anarchy is a viable (lack of) system for humans is just utterly laughable to me. Any country that fell into anarchy would be so utterly vulnerable to anyone wanting to take advantage of the people (there wouldn't be much else left) that they could simply walk in and take it, with a little organization.

Anarchy is just a great way to find the next dictator.

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It does, and that's not what it's there for. There's a seriously bad policy here.

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Watch this, from a conservative journalist.

It's a bit long,but there's a lot to cover.

Trump's Secrets
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WTF? Who cares about Cuban? He's not liberal, and I've never particularly liked him. We're debating Trump, here.

2 points

No, it's not normal.

Trump has - according to USA Today - 3500 lawsuits against him. He's a con artist, at best.

Find me anybody close.

2 points

I haven't told you that Bill Clinton was much of anything. All I've mentioned here is that he isn't the subject. I don't like him, and have plenty of complaints about him, but we were discussing Trump.

Women did not magically come out,there have been allegations against Trump for decades, but this is a significant time in history - Time magazine has noted it - women that have been threatened by powerful men have found a voice. Good for them. Several men on both sides have been exposed - the culture has been toxic, and I've been saying that since I was a child.

You're basically saying, "Well, so, others did it too", and I already knew that, and have had issues with it all my life. So the fuck what. It needs to end.

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The why is why hasn't he released his tax returns. Like you said, that much was leaked. Nope, we haven't seen shit. He hasn't released it.

1 point

The proof that there was collusion?

Like you pointed out, collusion isn't illegal. There were business dealings - that falls under collusion. There were actual crimes we know of, like interfering in foreign diplomacy (the Logan act), but what Mueller finally decides is prosecutable remains to be seen.

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Taxes?

In 2005, he paid 24%. We still have no clue what he's paid since. Why?

Sexual misconduct?

He's basically stated it was his standard, and the women are pressing the matter. Bill Clinton has nothing to do with Trump, and if both get slammed, great.

Russian collusion?

The collusion is already proven. Now it's just a matter of Mueller sorting out any criminal activity...and guess what? Guilty pleas say there definitely was some.

What else?

There needs to be more?

Ok, he's a scam artist, with a staggering number of lawsuits against him, and it's likely he's losing his grip on reality.

Want more? Trust me, there's an astounding amount more.

3 points

You must be insane...or just stunningly ill-informed. Trump has never worked an honest day in his life.

Trump, the Reality
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No, he's a neuroscientist, author, philosopher, blogger, and podcast host. He's not 100% funded by anyone, and he's definitely not a puppet - after all, he disagrees with Democrats pretty regularly...but feel free to give me a source.

1 point

Firstly, Trump has always been a con man - an utter scam artist. I called him that years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8bAHb4yVko

There was money to be made. If you don't get it yet, you probably never will, but Trump will be getting his due. Mueller is not the sort of imbecile his followers are.

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I grew up on it. That's the version I've read cover-to-cover. Twice.

EldonG(530) Clarified
1 point

Sam Harris has always been pretty centrist, and Penn Jilette is a left-leaning libertarian...though neither is gay, so why are they brought up? Rubin didn't have a problem with the left's stance on homosexuality...I'm just not sure why some have been brought into this debate.

Caitlyn Jenner was always supported on her sex-change by the left, and opposed by the right, regardless of political beliefs. The left doesn't have a problem with Milo being gay, they have issues with his politics, and don't get why he sides with rabid anti-gay politicians. Personally, I always thought it would be best to let him speak. I doubt it'll bring any understanding, but hey, I believe in the first amendment.

2 points

Generally better for liberals, though this, like any prediction, carries no guarantees. The pendulum swings, and if this isn't as far as it gets, the lunatics will cause irreparable damage.

1 point

I have yet to see any evidence that video games can cause underachievement, much less have - though certainly, spending too much of one's time involved with anything non-productive can steal from real-world achievement. Video games can be addictive, and if allowed, use up far too much time, but any number of things can and have done that.

Boys - and by that, I assume children - need to have focus on school, etc - and it doesn't often come naturally. It's up to parents, primarily and teachers, secondarily, to create that focus.

4 points

After the civil rights movement, I had high hopes for us, but backward thinking has always held us back, and my hopes for the future - at least the foreseeable future - are slim. If we don't get our shit together - if we don't embrace progress - the rest of the world will simply pass us by.

1 point

Of course they don't. That would require knowing facts, instead of simply marching like lemmings...and though they talk about hating Hitler, they'll be near the front of the line when the SS armbands are handed out.

EldonG(530) Clarified
1 point

Not one of us can produce a leaf that can perform photosynthesis yet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_photosynthesis

Arguments about what 'we can't do yet' I always find humorous. That idea of god shrinks daily.

1 point

It'll be a miracle if it goes anywhere. The entire system is presently kowtowing to the evangelicals, and they obviously support sexual harassment, if not out-and-out rape. Their 'good book' says you just marry your rapist, after all.

EldonG(530) Clarified
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Quite, though not the same as many liberals. There is a pretty decent range, there.

I'm fiscally conservative in ways that most would never agree with.

1 point

Why is it that christians have so much trouble admitting that they're worshiping an unjust monster that murders the innocent, causes genocide, brings evil to anybody who dares rational thought, promotes slavery and misogyny, and plays the most ludicrous game of hide-and-seek ever?

That seems objectively sinful.

1 point

Up until he started investigating Trump, Robert Mueller was always considered to be a man with the highest level of integrity. What changed?

He's investigating people with no integrity, and exposing his followers as having none, themselves - they refuse to take an honest look at anything.

1 point

Can we just eliminate FromWithin? He's really nothing but a clump of cells, and only a couple dozen are gray matter.

2 points

I'm an old hippie, with pretty much the same values I've always had, just more jaded.

1 point

A rapist is absolutely not fit to be a father. That's not complicated.

1 point

I'd have little argument with that. Hell, everything gets ramped up, so GDP skyrockets. It's only later, when the bill comes due - see Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc...that the cost comes home, though.

EldonG(530) Clarified
2 points

True, in essence - but even atheists had similar enough experiences that they described it as a presence and a very satisfying feeling. It's basically the same thing the most religious people say.

EldonG(530) Clarified
1 point

Don't take me for a Nazi, but this is one of my favorite t-shirts:

http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a192/a192.gif?v11301bss2

I mean there was the Volkswagen, which he had created, the Autobahn, which he had built, and the greatest propaganda films of all time, by Leni Reifenstahl.

For being a fascist, murdering piece of shit, he had some serious accomplishments.

Did I mention that I am not PC?

1 point

Early U2 is amazing, but I'm not a fan of anything after The Joshua Tree. That's when it seems like they just went for commercial success, and the incredible heart on their first albums was gone.

EldonG(530) Clarified
1 point

True, at the end of it, but for a while under Hitler, Germany had some serious prosperity.

1 point

In all fairness, there has been an experiment where scientists created experiences within which people said they felt there was a presence - as if they were having a religious experience. It even worked on atheists, though the test subjects did have the experience explained to them.

'Religious experiences' are not terribly difficult to induce.


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