I know you deny all your gibberish because you’re a compulsive liar Prove it. I still don't see the quote. I'm staring really hard at my screen and I don't see it.
That’s still you Prove it
More lies Prove it
American education how wonderful Ummmm this is relevant how? I know where the Vatican is and therefore you criticize the American education system because that is somehow relevant to the argument??? By the way, you're supporting the view that the witch hunt caught witches, which was a view supported by Catholics so
Incorrect , you liar ...... Prove it
BTW are you a fat person ? Nope. Funny story - I'm actually underweight, so maybe you want to take back the "fat fuck" comment?
Advanced 😂😂😂😂😂 Surely you mean special needs ? Nope. I can send you my class schedule if you want - it has IBMYP classes on it, which, if you Google it, is the International Baccalaureate, which is advanced
Yeah it’s just I don’t get fat peoples sarcasm What about people who aren't fat useless fucks like me? (Fun fact - not every person on the internet is a terrible person. There are actually some pretty cool people if you try to, like, actually be polite and have basic human decency)
when Meyers dies it you suck him off I think you meant to say "when Meyers does it" and I'm actually straight, but maybe try not to be a homophobe
you peado Prove it.
What a brain dead dummy you are ..... Jesus died and rose from the dead according to your Christian faith You're the brain-dead dummy because he wasn't a corpse
I know you’re American but that’s stupidity at a different level Yes a living person rose from the dead, because he came back to life. You're the one who's at a mind-blowing level of stupidity
You mean Evolution Yes... the Darwinian theory of evolution... that's what I said
But you said cosmic evolution was bullshit !!! No, I didn't. I said it sounded like bullshit, because I was too lazy to google the crap you were pulling from nowhere, but now that I have, it looks like I've exposed you as a liar yet again wow surprise.
Why, you’re a Meyers butt boy 1. No I'm not - I'm straight and you're a disgusting homophobe 2. That doesn't matter to the debate
When you quit the insults I may do likewise You started it
Yes you set the whole scenario going Typo - I meant to say "I'm not immaturely throwing rapid-fire curse words like you are"
The worlds top scientists would not understand what exactly ? I'm talking about all the world's scientists. And I just told you - "evidence from outside their fields of study"
Physical cosmology is studied by scientists such as Astronomers,Physicists and Philosophers making you wrong yet again , what you are referring to is pseudoscience as in religor mythological cosmology which is bullshit religor is not a word
Name one piece of concrete “evidence “ bet you cannot ? ok yes I can - DNA contains information that codes for the traits of all living beings, like the "language" of a cell. DNA is often compared to computer code, or to an instruction manual, both of which are designed by intelligent agents. How do you produce information like in DNA without someone or something intelligent to write the code? If you find a book somewhere on the street, you don't say "oh this must have come from random processes," but instead you assume it was written by a person.
Hmmmm I don’t believe you Why not?
Bible study no doubt , when you get a masters degree or two in Europe you might be up there ,as of now you have nothing except your American mouth Like I said - it's a public school so actually there's a lot of doubt lol. Just curious - how many degrees do you have? How advanced was your high school education? Did you even get one?
What are you on about I just told you - I'm on about you attacking an entire third of the world's religious beliefs, which - quite frankly - isn't exactly the best idea. Also, neither is implying that all 300 million Americans are liars (or whatever it is you're trying to say)
Physical cosmology is studied by scientists such as Astronomers,Physicists and Philosophers making you wrong yet again , what you are referring to is pseudoscience as in religor mythological cosmology which is bullshit Ok fine I meant like astronomy - the actual study of planets and their orbits and deep space and stuff - to clarify, I'm talking about what they do at NASA
You sent me the link you idiot that’s 8 times I’ve told you this prove that Meyer called it peer-reviewed
It’s necessary as you’re American “Christian “so it may take a while to sink in I actually understood the concept when I first googled it, thanks
You’ve provided none yet Okay I'll tell you again (heavy sigh) - if God created the universe and all the laws within the universe, he would not be controlled by those laws or space-time dimensions, and wouldn't necessarily exist within the universe that he created, which is NOT special pleading, because I explained the exception.
I'm asking you to explain why my explanation of the exception is unjustified.
I already did dummy Actually, I don't see the quote anywhere so stop being a liar
You have that the wrong way round you dummy , American Bible Belt nut jobs like you are the laughing stock of Europe .... bet you’re a fat fuck as well I don't live in the Bible Belt, and I know a lot of Catholic Europeans - in fact, where do you think the Vatican is? OH YEAH - EUROPE!
That’s why I corrected you and your 👈 buddy on your incomprehension at the difference..... You used "your" when you should have used "you're" and I corrected you - liar
Sure did , but hey you yanks go to bible schools don’t yous ? Nope - I attend an advanced program at a nonreligious public school.
Something else you need to work on dummy actually you're the one who misinterpreted the sarcasm so
You said it was bullshit I said it sounded like your kind of bullshit
you agree he’s a bullshitter Nope
It certainly did when you thought I said it you hypocrite What are you babbling about you idiot liar?
I couldn’t give a fuck about Stephen Hawkings , what a stupid lazy reply I was using an example that applies to the situation, because Stephen Hawking is crazy smart, and definitely not a bullshitter.
He fits the criteria A zombie is specifically defined as "a corpse who is said to be revived from the dead," and Jesus does not fit the criteria, because a corpse is a "dead body, especially human," and Jesus wasn't dead because dead is defined as "no longer alive," and, under my hypothesis, Jesus was alive when he rose from the dead.
You know Zombies don’t exist ? Yup
Yes he didn’t rise from the dead Prove it
Who does that ? Fictional zombies
You did actually Nope, I brought up Darwinism. And, you know what, I decided to actually pull facts to combat your bullshit, and Darwinism is "the theory of evolution advanced by Charles Darwin" and cosmic evolution is "the study of the many varied changes in the assembly and composition of energy, matter and life in the thinning and cooling universe" you pathological liar!
How embarrassing for you and Meyers you obviously didn’t read how that panned out for Meyers did you ? Why don't you present evidence instead of making me investigate it myself?
You sent me the link to his “piece” you fucking idiot the other day and fled when I pointed out your error 1. Could we maybe possibly stop with the profanity? 2. I accidentally sent you a broken link. It was a mistake 3. When you pointed it out, I admitted that maybe I messed up (since I can't visit the link myself - my computer blocks it)
Stop behaving like a child then I mean... I'm legally a child, soo....... And I'm immaturely throwing curse words rapid-fire like you are
What are you on about ? I'm on about you attacking an entire third of the world's religious beliefs, which - quite frankly - isn't exactly the best idea. Also, neither is implying that all 300 million Americans are liars (or whatever it is you're trying to say)
Here’s the lies I'm not lying - that's NOT what I said. I DID NOT say that I was talking about denying the creationist movement. What I ACTUALLY said was (get ready for facts here) that scientists probably haven't looked into - or maybe even can't understand -
evidence from outside their fields of study. I'm not calling scientists stupid, I'm just saying there's no reason that a physicist would understand the arguments present in cosmology.
But you abuse children Hmmmm let's see..... I've never abused a child and - like I said - I denounce what the priests did.
That rules you out Actually, I'm in an advanced international program at my school, so I think I'm getting higher education than you ever will.
What’s your question When did Meyer ever print anything and call it "peer reviewed," like you said he did?
You didn’t justify it you clown Instead of calling me names and tossing around pointless insults and profanity, how about you actually provide an argument against my justification of the exception?
Special pleading is a form of fallacious argument that involves an attempt to cite something as an exception to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exception. Yes I know. Please stop repeating the same thing over and over and please start actually providing an argument that counters the one I provided.
You certainly did Prove it
Ummmmm yeah I'm being sarcastic you stupid
It’s cool your an American Christian so you would deny it either way You're a typical dumbass European atheist, and don't even know the difference between "your" and "you're"... did you even go to a single day of school? Ever?
There ya go typical American Christian lol
Ummmmm yeah Sarcasm
You have not shown your claim to be right nor reasonable , so it remains ..... special pleading Well I'm working on the "right" part, but you won't let me go anywhere with my argument because you're being stubborn, and I did show it to be reasonable, but you haven't explained why my exception doesn't work.
If God created the universe, then he would be exempt from the laws of physics BECAUSE HE CREATED THEM
There I just showed my argument to be reasonable.
Now, if you're going to call that "special pleading," tell me WHY you're not accepting my explanation of the exception
I’m amused at your childishness , so I guess you’re still in a rage I amused that you think you're affecting me at all, so I guess I'm not.
an American loudmouth like you wait.... I'm the egotistical loudmouth?? Mind. Blown. I did not see that coming lol you're funny
You don’t even know what you type now you idiot Yes, I do. I only ask you to send a quote to prove that you're a terrible liar because I didn't say that.
Sarcasm is also way over your thick American skull Oh, you were sarcastic? Well excuse me for missing it. Sure, I bet you were using sarcasm. Uh-huh. Riiiiiiight.
Oh dear soma typo sets you off into a rage , why not get the spelling police I'm not in a rage, and you're the one who got pissed when I corrected you.
You used retarted instead of retarded and used pretense instead of pretence ...... I can give you several more but I think you get the point or maybe not I sent you a screenshot to prove that when I Googled "pretence" it didn't come up because I'm American and we spell shit different - big deal.
You just admitted otherwise When did I admit otherwise? Send me a quote of when I admitted otherwise.
Just did No you didn't
So you lie to cover a lie ...... Not lying.
but hey you’re a Christian YOU SAID I WASN'T CHRISTIAN! HAH! I KNEW IT! YOU'RE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
To be completely honest, I think human nature is the only dangerous thing and all these things we blame, like religion, are just scapegoats. But that doesn't we can't ban some stuff.
Things that have no benefit to society, and are only for the purpose of killing should not be in the hands of those who want to kill just to kill - like guns
Nonsense ..... You deny is perfectly acceptable you idiot Yeah, "you deny" is perfectly acceptable. Problem is, that's not what you said, dumbass! You said you "you are deny."
who cannot even spell Prove it
God is according to believers supernatural he influences events according to believers, will ya look at that an exact fit for the definition Agreed. But that doesn't make him magical.
God again buddy Agreed.
You just proved to yourself with my help you’re wrong ..... again Nope
Not according to you Prove it
Another invalid link what a shocker You liar. I opened it myself.
Ok , run off and get your crayons and some paper and I will attempt to explain it .....again Ok go ahead
But you didn’t know what it was till I told you actually I googled it so I knew it before you told me thanks
Yes as in god Nope
You gave your “explanation “ but you didn’t prove it so it’s special pleading Well, I don't need to "prove" it. It's a logical line of reasoning - watch:
(assume God created the universe for like 10 seconds)
1. God created the universe
2. Therefore, he created all matter and space that exists today
3. Therefore, he created the dimension of time, because Einstein's theory of relativity tells us that you can't have time without space and matter
4. Therefore, before God created Time, God existed
5. Therefore, God is timeless
You can't really "prove" something that follows along with logic (and no, I don't mean that I can't prove it because of how much of a retard I am, so don't say it)
Godidit Godidit is just saying "Oh, I don't understand this thing, so I'm gonna just say it was God" whenever you don't understand something, right? I want to establish a baseline definition before we get into it here.
Godidit See above
Ehhh no Godidit is the "God of the Gaps"
Special pleading See argument above where I explained thoroughly
Special pleading See argument above where I explained thoroughly
Yeah but arguing that the Islam religion is the cause of ISIS is also ridiculous. There are thousands, literally thousands, of things that cause some violence, crime, etc, but that in general are quite helpful to the world.
For example - religion, obviously.
-Money
-Power
-Fame
-Leadership positions of countries
-Also, there are plenty of things that have killed people, but that we still use, like:
-airplanes
-cars
-a lady in my city was killed by an umbrella blowing around on the beach a couple years ago. True story.
I’ve done so several times Well I'm stupid so explain it simpler. What was that block of text from Rational Wiki all about?
special pleading I already explained this but I'll do it again.
As you said, special pleading is creating rules and then making something exempt from those rules without explaining the exception.
And I explained the exception: God is exempt from the laws of physics because he created them. He exists outside the universe, and doesn't need a Creator! The Creator of the Laws of Physics doesn't have to follow those laws.
godidit Yep, you're gonna pull out the whole "God of the Gaps" thing. I also explained this, but I'll explain this again as well. It's not a "God of the Gaps" because I can explain how he made it happen:
1. He's all-powerful.
2. He willed it to happen.
I said ID people use it , glad you think it’s bullshit as your buddy Meyers uses it ..... So you agree Meyers is a bullshitter I agree that I haven't heard of it, and I agree that if someone makes one mistake, that doesn't discredit everything they say, or Stephen Hawking would be a bullshitter because he said stuff that goes into black holes disappears from existence, and he was proved to be incorrect.
Must be a term you and Meyers came up with when you were licking his ass crack as he’s very familiar with the term Hmmmm nope
This from an idiot like you who believes Jesus the zombie rose from the dead is hilarious Jesus is not a zombie, because zombies do not retain their previous personality, or free will. Also, Jesus didn't rise from the dead looking like a corpse, and he didn't try to eat anyone's brain
I corrected you on this several times already , it’s your lot use the term “cosmic Evolution “ ...... Alright, fine. I'll use the term "the idea that all species descended from a single ancestor." Forget I even mentioned Darwinism, ok? I'm not the one who brought up cosmic evolution.
you claimed he had many I said I had found one and that link didn't work, which isn't my fault. But I can prove that he was published in the Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington you liar
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.
prints a piece of bullshit in his own “journal “ and calls it peer reviewed ....you’re a dummy When did he print anything and call it peer-reviewed? Prove it.
They haven’t seen any you dumb bastard , why not post your “evidence “up you thick fuck ? Maybe I would if you stopped calling me a "dumb bastard" and a "thick fuck" and a "prize fucking idiot" every 10 seconds. One-third of the world is Christian, and Catholicism is the largest denomination by far, so maybe try to not say shit like that about the 2.2 billion Christians currently alive? (Hmmm what an idea!)
So the reason you lot cannot post “evidence” up is because scientists cannot understand it ..... What the hell is “outside their own disciplines “ oh you mean they don’t accept bullshit about the existence of supernatural entities and you want what’s hilariously called “ Christian scientists “ to give their part of the “ story “ .....got ya No, you actually don't got me, because that's not what I said. I guess I need to define "discipline" for you, you retard. It's "a branch of knowledge, usually one studied in higher education." Now, I asked a question and you dodged it - answer it you liar.
Special pleading yet again As I explained, God is exempt from the laws/dimensions of our universe, BUT I EXPLAINED THE EXCEPTION, which - BY YOUR DEFINITION - means it's not special pleading, for the millionth time.
Special pleading is a form of fallacious argument that involves an attempt to cite something as an exception to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exception. I know. I justified the exception. Yet again, I repeat the same thing.
Special pleading As I explained, God is exempt from the laws/dimensions of our universe, BUT I EXPLAINED THE EXCEPTION, which - BY YOUR DEFINITION - means it's not special pleading, for the millionth time.
Special pleading is a form of fallacious argument that involves an attempt to cite something as an exception to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exception. I know. I justified the exception. Yet again, I repeat the same thing.
Read above ...you’re not a very good judge of what nonsense is seeing as you jack yourself off when talking about Meyers babblings in print Ok fine I'm a babbling, drooling idiot. How about you explain it nice and easy like the stupid five-year-old I am?
Special pleading is a form of fallacious argument that involves an attempt to cite something as an exception to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exception. Yes, I know what it is now. But the important part of your definition is without justifying the exception but I did justify the exception, because under this wild guess, God created the universe, and therefore exists outside of it!
But you’re a notorious liar , I don’t believe a word you say Really? I'm notorious? Meaning well-known by many people as a habitual liar? Hmmm I don't think so. I can provide proof that I attend Church if you want. In fact, I think you're a notorious liar because I'm still waiting on proof that Meyer and Craig are rejected by the scientific community.
What you really mean is Pretense did not come up when you googled but you’re a “Christian “so why not just attempt to lie your way out
Actually, I told the truth. Sorry buddy.
Yet again like the cowardly “Christian “ liar you are you lie in an attempt to avoid admitting your genetic stupidity ...... Prove it. What "genetic stupidity" are you blabbering on about?
Jesus would love you wouldn’t he ? You did it first, and yes - He loves all His children.
First of all, pulling out the "well you did this" argument just gets the debate off track and doesn't really prove anything relevant to the discussion.
I don't support pedophilia in any of its forms. Neither does the Catholic Church. In September 2009, The Holy See stated "We know now that in the last 50 years somewhere between 1.5% and 5% of the Catholic clergy has been involved in sexual abuse cases."
5% at most! That's a tiny percentage, even if you double - heck, even triple! - it to account for possible lying (which I don't think they are)!
you are still deny the actual definition First of all, it's "denying," because it's a present verb. Learn grammar, dumbass
Second, let's review the definition of magic that you sent me: "the power of apparently influencing events by using mysterious or supernatural forces"
Third, let's look at the definition of supernatural from the same dictionary: "attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature"
Now, God fits under "supernatural" but not under "magic," and the reason for that is that "magic" comes specifically from unholy sources.
