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There are a list of things that you have never seen, touched, or felt that I'm sure you believe in. I'm assuming that you put your trust in evidence and only evidence alone?

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Appreciate the debate, honestly. Have a great rest of week!

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Lol wow! never said i was better than you. I don't even know and if I did, i still wouldn't make the type of judgement.

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Perfect example of over interpreting the bible when it's actually so simple. I'm assuming you hold no morality?

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Well as stated earlier, science wouldn't be able to pertain to such occurrences since science only observes what is natural.

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whats your ethnicity? .

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Do you believe in the supernatural? Or in any form of supernatural occurrences?

Jamador88(125) Clarified
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What misinformation am I spreading?

You mentioned several assumption based off of personal opinion and interpretation as well, did you not? There are scientist and researches who try and study such odd occurrences as a career that can't even explain what's happening, but yet YOU can?

I've heard a lot of people say "Well why believe in God over science? I mean you can't prove that he exists, you cant see him. In fact, why serve a God that let's bad things happen. Why is there stillborns?? Why is there unforeseen and unexplainable deaths??? Why did God let this happen to me". Little do they know, they too are putting their faith in something. Rather it be rationalism, which is a belief that is based on reason or knowledge. Or even a faith in science. Moreover, f you think about it Science honestly does EXPLAIN a lot of things and will continue to explain more and new things. However science, like reason does not have an ANSWER to EVERYTHING. In fact, science actually raises more unanswered questions. Scientist as well as rationalist will admit they don't know everything. So at the end of the day, it's a contradiction for them to say "why believe in a something that can't doesn't have evidence". My response is this: evidence or not people will still have a choice to make. Jesus was here on this earth (historical scholars can admit there was a man named Jesus) and yet people still didn't believe in him. In fact, they wanted to kill him! It really goes to show that even when providing such evidence, people will doubt. People will always doubt. At the end of the day I choose to believe even when I don't know everything, no one does. Even when I don't know why God did what he did, or why God is doing what he's doing; I know WHO I'm putting my faith in and not WHAT. My confidence isn't in some proposition or reason, it's in God. He says he will take care of the birds in the air, how much more will he take care of me. I'm not saying science is irrelevant bc it's VERY RELEVANT and imperative, but I will not live a life trying to understand every little thing because the fact is, I won't! I never will!

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There are several prophecies that have been fulfilled as well as signs of the end days that the bible mentions. For instance:

War among countries

Famine

Weather (you can even agree that there have been some record setting catastrophes in a small time frame)

The red moon

Prophets that described what looked like huge locusts flying in the air ready for war (helicopters)

The most rebellious generation

Animals mysteriously dying by the thousands at a time

Bible talks about corrupted minds in terms of people twisting the truth.....

I think all of this is crazy in that the bible was written so long ago and yet still relates to our time so precisely.

I think it's good thing that I would make a piss poor devil while you on the other would seem to do just fine. thumbs up You completely went off on your own hypothetical assertion. Before you do that, can you agree that based off of my assertion, you would fit perfectly in what the devil scheme is all about? yes or no

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Parenting- Children only see what there parents do and how they talk. Yes, there are traits that will be passed down, but overall a child particularly from ages 1-4 will only imitate what they see and hear. What baffles me is how toddlers will cuss and parents will think its funny. It's completely absurd.

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Theory is not 100% proven. A "law" is. Therefore, evolution will remain simply just that, a theory.

The words of man, yes, but received from God. Why is it that the bible written over 2,000 years ago is still relevant to this day. Explain, in your words of course, how the bible has foretold certain instances that have occurred in our era.

Although this might be stretching it for you, I'm curious to see how you'll respond and before I continue I'd like to thank you for your insight. My stance is that there is a God and demons (I'm sure you might disagree). However, my belief is that the devil or enemy is smart as well. The way I see it is he's been around for thousands of years and has tricked millions through a variety of different schemes. The bible talks about how he is a manipulator. If I was the devil playing the devils advocate I would try and get people to of course disbelief in the fact that there is a God. I would do everything I could to have humanity look at something else and focus solely on that while at the same time know that if I can get them to believe in anything and everything but God, I've done my job. I would provide evidence, strong evidence at that and disprove the existence in God every way possible. I think the devil has done just that with this generation as well as others. He has consistently manipulated people to follow their own path as well as any other path as long as it's not Christianity. If he can do that then he's done his job successfully. The bible talks about how he is like a lion seeking who he may devour. Just like a lion he studies you, he knows your weakness. The devil knows your personal struggles and has studied you since you were a kid. He knows what pitch to serve you to have you oppose the existence of God. He's been observing you far before you started to observe and study things on your own. He uses different things for different people. For instance why do you think drugs sometimes overrule someone life, pornogrpahy, pride, bitterness, jealousy, anger, even a person's own intelligence. Again, he knows just what pitch to serve according to each person.

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Not getting mad at all. Trust me, I'm only trying to clearly print it in bold that you are misunderstanding my claim completely. Again, it is useful to an extent. Would you agree that the more science discovers, the more questions will be raised?

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Reading the bible and studying it yourself will also raise more questions. Do your homework on the bible as well. However, when you read it, don't approach it one sided. Actually, try to see it from several different angles.

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Wow! Even after I tried to repeat myself twice that "it is in fact useful but to a "certain extent", you still go on to try and quote that I said the word, "worthless"? Hmmmmm who is mixed up now. Let me reiterate for the THIRD TIME, IT IS USEFUL! It is very useful BUT to a CERTAIN EXTENT! There is a fine line.

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Just like there is evidence that science offers. There is also evidence in Gods existence. There is far too much order for us and our whole existence to have been formed out of a "Big Bang", out of one single cell that not only created us but every animal and insect; that chaos can produce life and death, for the sun to set and rise, for the perfect atmosphere that we have, for the perfect alignment between our planet and the sun. Far too much order to make claims that it just happened out of no where. No, I will not believe that! Lol If anything, those claims seem more absurd than my faith.

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Because who created science??? Man!! Who created man? God. Of course you'll disagree. So tell me what or who created us?? Tell me out origin, and it's proving, and it's origin. Elaborate please.

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"Not true. Christian belief requires not thinking about how anything works."

Extremely false. Is studying certain philosophies and trying to figure out certain questions useful? Of course! There are several job opportunities and learning experiences that can result out of doing that. However, you could spend every second of your entire life trying to understand everything and still won't be able to. There are far too complex theories and studies that will always be a question. The bible says, "what good does it do to gain the whole world and lose my soul." Again, my claim isn't that knowldege isn't useful, obviously it is. Moreover, we will not be able to understand everything. In fact, the more we start to realize, as far as the cosmos are concerned, the more questions are raised; it's an ongoing cycle. Society tries to say, "I don't have it figured out so I'll take it into my own hands." God says, "leave it in my hands, I've already got it figured it out."

Jamador88(125) Clarified
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My apologies. I copied and pasted my response to the wrong post. Obviously you weren't overusing exclamation marks.

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Your false claims are based off of what evidence?

If you look at the concept of what you believe in and how/why you believe what you believe, you'll see that you put more faith in what man says is true. Science also says that we can only see a certain amount of colors with our human eye. That not only raises the question of what else is out there, but what is out there that has been covered up by man (theories, conspiracies, etc). You can admit as well as I can that we as humans don't know everything. We can have great detailed description and evidence, but at the end of the day, the results are all gathered by man. Therefore, you choose to put your faith in what you can see and even that is limited according to "science" as well as put your faith in man made theories and assumption, which is flawed because man is imperfect. Fact is, you have faith. Your faith is in what only you can understand and perceive, but you are also limited in understanding bc there are things in which you can't explain. You out faith in what is limited. I put my faith in a perfect and unlimited being.

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Evolution has not been observed. Not one scientist or scholar has seen the mutation of any specie. Why? Because it would literally take hundreds to thousands of years to occur.

You're right, evolution is a theory. A theory and only a theory, hence, "The Evolution Theory". So you're telling me you belief firmly in a "theory".

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The evolution is only a theory. Not science. Therefore, science cannot correlate with the theory of evolution because the scientific methods claims that it must be observed. I'm simply clarifying.

If anything, your position requires mother faith than my claim that it was God who created everything. Science says it was all am accidental occurrence that produced everything I existence. Science even goes to the extent to make claims that chaos cannot produce order. Explain how a an explosion proceed the sun to set, sun to rise, a perfect living atmosphere for us, humans and al creation on earth. Again, your position requires more faith than mine.

The verse I shared with you does relate in that us as humans on average have only about 70 to 80 years to try and understand everything you possibly can and even then your brain will reach a max, whereas, God has no beginning and has known all things even behind the point of our existence.

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Is that not part of the scientific method? To observe and collect. How can one observe evolution of certain species if they were not there. Scientist make the same faith response that Christians do when speaking out their belief.

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Then what created science? Man, correct? What or who created man? This is where we go our separate opinions.

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This isn't Facebook where you try to debate and proclaim your personal opinion through over use of exclamation marks.


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