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Mint_tea(3297) Clarified
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I genuinely do not know if I have or not. I believe I have, and it was a fun debate without much name calling, but it wasn't with the Nom name. The idea's where about the same so I feel like it was but when the name gets changed every month I just can't say for 100 percent certainty.

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North is not in fact north? I don't know about the debate going on there but I do know that north and true north are different. Maybe that's what he's talking about?

I'll have to find that debate.

I honestly don't have a problem when people host debates that are WAY outside the box or debates that don't conform to standard given theory - Flat earth? Come on, I don't believe that for a second but the reasoning is fairly fascinating- I just wish it wouldn't go from attacking an idea to attacking the person. The first is debating, the latter is evasion.

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I particularly enjoyed the false accusation of using a guilt by association fallacy -as he has a go at me using nothing but Ad hominem fallacy arguments.

Some of them were pretty amazing though, I really enjoy the term sky fairies.

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Yes. I would not take their opinion about ME seriously. Again, this shouldn't be too hard to grasp.

Your thinking is fucked because you don't want to look at your own mistakes. That's why you're a crackpot.

You shouldn't cast stones in glass houses.

Again though, for someone claiming to not be FactRegime, you sure are acting like you've been personally insulted when people are addressing him.

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The practice you refer to is more commonly known as guilt by association. It's stupid and it's a logical fallacy.

Hardly. As I have no particular dislike of the person who is claiming to believe Marx is a hero I will still consider arguments they make and debate with them as needed with an open mind in most subjects. I will not disagree with them simply because I dislike them. I will simply not entertain ad hominem attacks (an actual fallacy) against my person from someone who believes Marx is a hero.

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That isn't me. That is another user (FactMachine) who thinks it is funny to impersonate me.

Ah apologies then, it's hard to tell who is whom on here anymore, but you sure are taking insult to comments directed to the other one. So you don't believe that Marx is a hero?

But you are using crackpot reasoning to determine that you are not a crackpot

If anyone believes Marx is a hero then their assessment of me is absolutely not something I concern myself with. It's simple reasoning, but if I lost you in that reasoning then perhaps it wasn't as simple as I thought.

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Lol! Sky fairies, I like that.

But seeing as how you are arguing that Marx was a hero, I don't think your assessment of my character or belief is as devastating as you wish it to be.

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Einstein liked to beat women and stole all his ideas.

And still we aren't calling him a hero.

It's called being a wise ass.

Drop the wise part. ;D

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If Einstein raped someone would that mean his theories where automatically wrong?

No, but we aren't calling Einstein a hero either.

You just admitted he used a sponge after you said he never washed you ignoramus.

A sponger is a person who lives at other's expense. A parasite, a leech, a worthless mooch. It's a description of the man's personality, not his hygiene...though that was addressed as well.

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I'mma say gravity.

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Of course you're allowed to go. And if someone from that church calls you out on it, that's a poor reflection of their faith and not your willingness to experience it. Of course if an atheist goes to church simply to mock....then that's a poor reflection of their personality.

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I believe more in the "Do onto others as you would have them do unto you."

Sometimes mean things have to be said but there is a time and place and reason for it. While the principle is sound it isn't always right, however just saying mean things because you can or because you want to hurt someone isn't a good way to live your life.

Mint_tea(3297) Clarified
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Now, are you sure the better looking thought isn't part of the "you're getting dumber" part? ;D

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I heard about that today too!!! How wonderful. And you're right, it will make a very good movie, I hope some of the money made can go to the rescuer's surviving family.

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I like that one too but I think the shadows and light is my first choice. Many older works of literature have some beautiful and rather deep quotes.

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I think my initial inclination would be no, but I've had some strange experiences that I just can't explain so I think I'd leave it as a....possibly. I think there is more to us than just a shell of a body so who knows what happens when we die.

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One of the Jane Eyre movies: "Remember the shadows are just as important as the light."

Generic quote: "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain."

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I wonder if he realizes there are many reasons why parents surrender their children to the state and that many of those reasons are heartbreaking for the parent/s but best for the kids. Does he think it's easy for everyone?

With his zero tolerance for abortion, what is best for the child who isn't wanted by the two who created it when it's born?

Not every family is good for a child, not every parent is good for a child. Yes touting family values is important but if and when that doesn't work, be it by unsafe sex or just bad parents, pretty much anything is better than keeping the kid in an abusive situation. Personally I don't agree with late term abortion and only agree with it under certain stipulations, but the choice in the first term should be up to the woman.

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Not particularly. Especially when the system favors keeping all kids on the same level, either to spare those that need additional help or to make it easier for the teachers, I'm not sure which. We need to clear up the idea that being weak in one area means you are weak all over...it doesn't. Some may need more help in Math or English, others may not. Holding student who are gifted back because the majority aren't just makes the gifted student bored and denies them the ability to get better and students who need help in certain areas shouldn't be embarrassed to get additional assistance.

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See? You learn something new every day!

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I can't tell if you're serious or not, or if you're just rolling with something ridiculous for attention. Eyewitness stories gives a lot of credence and there IS evidence that the holocaust happened. I've been to Auschwitz, I've seen the video's, letters, tattoo's, shoes and the like. So tell me, if you really want to believe it didn't happen, why would they make that up?

You don't even have to answer that because if you believe people saying it didn't happen over the actual victims and ALL of the evidence that it did, then you are the brainwashed one.

One of the many sad things is, as the last of the survivors die out, people like you will only get louder.

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We are superior because we understand hygiene and wipe our asses. We also don't typically drag our asses along the ground like many animals have to do.

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It's entirely possible, if they can hear outside noises like chickens, that the chimney may be only partially closed off in places. I imagine if they find one then they can make sure it's stable enough to bring in whatever equipment they choose and can then hoist the children up. A much better solution than hours of scuba underwater. BUT, that is if they can even find one, who knows what's grown over top of it. The helmet idea is certainly plausible and I'm sure they've thought of it and just about every other idea under the sun.

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I'm VERY hopeful the pumps will work but unless they can get a few dozen more I don't think that's going to be an option. Every day they go without rain is a day in their favor but once the rains come back it will win out over the pumps with a fair bit of ease. While walking them out would be the best option I don't think it's possible if they've been pumping for days, are using all the pumps they have, and still don't have enough headway. Best case is they can pump it out enough to where the kids only have to scuba a few hours compared to the 5-6 now but I'm not that optimistic. The ultimate best case is if they find a chimney but I hope they are really focusing on teaching the kids to swim and to try to get the strongest and most confident swimmers out as soon as possible. The less children in there the better the chances for them to all survive as rescue teams can focus on removing the weaker ones instead of all of them combined.


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