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It is the central concept of the book

The central concept of the book is propaganda. That is why the book is called Propaganda. It is also why the book contains dozens of references to propaganda. The only person who has so far used the phrase "social engineering" is you.

You claimed I believed the German people had been "socially engineered", and when I pointed out that you were making up your own arguments, you doubled down on your own lies by claiming my mention of Edward Bernays 24 hours ago proves I believe the German people were socially engineered.

You are a very boring, very stupid troll, whose only means to debate someone is to deliberately misrepresent what they believe and what they say.

At the high school level, biology classes required a lot of chemistry, and a fair amount of physics.

Marcusmoon, the theory of thermodynamics is not part of the standard high school biology curriculum because the theory of thermodynamics is a theory of physics. You appear to be ignoring the very reason that science is separated into different branches in the first place. This is the standard high school biology curriculum:-

Curriculum Topics Covered in High School Science Courses

The following is a list of curriculum topics covered in selected High School science courses.

Biology

Use methods of qualitative and quantitative observation.

Describe the general structures, functions, biochemistry and diversity of cells.

Describe levels of organization.

Explain perpetuation of species.

Apply laws of classical genetics and the principles of chromosomal inheritance to problems of genetic differences in individuals.

Explain the general functions of DNA and RNA.

Compare scientific theories of the origin and evolution of living things.

Apply methods of taxonomy to classify organism.

Identify career opportunities in the biological area.

Describe the characteristics of microorganisms.

Describe general anatomy and physiology of plant and animals.

Explain the biological behavior of living things.

Understand the relationships in energy flow patterns, and the development of the ecosystem.

Analyze the skills required for the practice of biotechnology.

https://www.genome.gov/12011721/curriculum-topics-covered-in-high-school-science-courses/#1

This will be my very last post here. I am done with this website, the trolls who use it, and the general stupidity of mankind.

Have a good one.

Amazing! It's my debate title, but I didn't mean it now

But I did mean it. I purposefully used a sensationalist debate title. But that makes me sensationalist in the same way that kissing babies made Hitler compassionate.

Please take the hint. Nobody wants you here on this site.

ignoring real fascists (Middle East, North African, and some Asian countries)

Islam is not the same thing as fascism, you ignorant 12 year old idiot. One is a religion invented in the 7th century and the other is a political ideology invented in the 20th century. How is it even possible that you are so stupid?

Nom, it is the central concept of the book..

That's strange, because Bernays does not mention the phrase "social engineering" anywhere in the entire book. You are such an utterly stupid liar that it is frustrating even talking to you.

Here is a copy of the book for anybody who wants to run a search on the phrase:-

http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/ bernprop.html

I can't even believe I am arguing with you that wording you used does not belong to Edward Bernays. You must literally be retarded.

Nom, this is another classic projection.

Yes, and clearly you are the one doing it. You invented your own argument, twice claimed it was mine, and when I protested you claimed it must be mine because I mentioned Edward Bernays in a post I wrote 24 hours ago. All you are doing is making up your own bullshit and claiming it is what other people believe. That is not debate. That is just you being an arse.

Bernay's book "Propaganda" was published in 1928

I have read Propaganda from cover to cover and referenced it extensively in my university dissertation. I still have a copy of it somewhere on my old hard drive. Given this fact, I would like to know why you have decided to pretend that a book written for students of public relations is actually a book about Nazi "social engineering"?

It seems that you are not content to merely misrepresent my own arguments, but now you are trying to do the exact same thing to Edward Bernays!!!!!

You cant be serious......

I never joke with fascists. You chose to use wording which you pretended was mine. When I pointed out you were lying, you then claimed it was Edward Bernays' wording. It belongs to neither of us because you are the one who used it.

I've read two of his books and an essay by him

No, you are a liar who Googled Edward Bernays shortly after you decided you were going to blame him for the false argument YOU INVENTED and then claimed was my own.

You're pathetic and stupid.

With a sense of personal responsibility this abysmally low

Where is your sense of responsibility not to misrepresent the arguments of the people you talk to? You are not simply a liar, but a world class hypocrite to boot.

You invoked Edward Bernays who has multiple books detailing his conception of "Social Engineers"

No he hasn't you retarded imbecile. He has not written a single book about social engineering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EdwardBernays#Books

God, why are you so stupid?

The closest he ever came was a book he wrote in 1955 called The Engineering of Consent. If this is indeed what you are referring to, then can you explain why you are blaming Germans in the 1930s for not reading a book which was not written until 1955?

I'm sure you can shed some light on this mystery for us. Does it have to do with your belief that time is not real?

Have you read anything I said on the matter

I have done my utmost best not to, but unfortunately some of your weak-minded, nonsensical abuse of language penetrated my retina in a moment of weakness.

I read enough to understand that you want to punish the ordinary German people who fell victim to the lies of the Nazis, despite them having no prior experience of Nazi propaganda. The confusing thing is that in contemporary life we are quite familiar with the techniques of Nazi propaganda, and chief among them is making up your opponent's beliefs for them.

Hence, on the one hand, you berate the German people for being victims of a party of complete liars, and on the other, you have fallen victim to the exact same methods of propaganda, since you are copying them verbatim.

you do not even understand your own position

So let me get this straight, brother. You tell me what my beliefs are, and when I disagree with you, you tell me it is because I do not understand my beliefs?

Is that seriously what just happened?

How are you not under permanent psychiatric supervision?

With a sense of personal responsibility this abysmally low

It isn't about "personal responsibility" you complete fool. Nobody had ever seen Nazi propaganda before. You want to punish people for falling victim to a con the world had never seen before? How are you any better than Hitler?

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This statement is to my point exactly

Something tells me you are not going to explain to any of us how it is "to your point".

Your position is

So your "point" appears to be that you are a Nazi who repeatedly makes up his opponent's argument for him. Is that your "point"?

is simply that they were re-engineered sub-consciously

No, those were your words, not mine. I agreed with you on the basis of the obvious underlying point that the German people were the victims of a coordinated propaganda campaign. You are the only person here who has even mentioned engineering, so congratulations on attacking your own argument, you complete fucking halfwit.

I honestly have no more time for this stupidity of yours. You are being ridiculous (as usual) so there is little point in trying to reason with you.

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You are taking the position that full-grown adults hold little to no real responsibility for themselves

Am I? Well, thanks for letting me know. I had no idea. It's lucky I have you to tell me what I think otherwise I'd be completely lost.

Please, tell me more about how we should punish people who are conned for being conned. That sounds to me like a theory I might have heard somewhere before. Where was it now?

Ah yes, that's right. 1930's Germany.

Nomenclature(1450) Clarified
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@xMathFanx

You just got schooled like the dopey troll you are.

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You agree with the statement as-is or with the obvious sarcasm I intended/employed?

We do not prosecute the victims of fraud in my country. Perhaps you feel that warrants sarcasm, but then again very little of what you write is worth reading anyway.

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Your right--the German citizens that bought into Nazism "hook-line-and-sinker" were passive victims of social re-engineering.......

I agree completely.

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Well, first of all, fascism had never been institutionalised as a serious political system at the state level before. The German people simply had no experience in recognising Nazi propaganda.

Second, it was only really during that era that writers such as Ed Bernays etc... began publishing the first works on propaganda. Way back then, the word "propaganda" did not have the negative connotations that it has today, and our modern disdain for the word is in no small part because of Nazi propaganda.

Third, Hitler was producing real economic results and slowly putting Germany back together again after a humiliating defeat which many cost many German nationalists their dignity.

Finally, Nazism struck like a wave, taking almost everything with it in its path and crushing whatever remained in way of opposition. The more power the Nazis obtained, the more they used that power to obtain more power, and so their rise became exponential.

It just looks like the man answered your question and stayed on topic.

Hi @FactMachine.

Bye @FactMachine.

If you are lying and you don't know you are lying then you are not lying, you are just wrong. Unless of course you are lying to yourself as well.

Good comment.

condemn countries in the Middle East

I'm condemning Ronald Reagan because your debate is about Ronald Reagan you goosestepping halfwit. Your debate isn't about "countries in the Middle East". God, why are you so stupid?

Interesting that you don't have the same labeling terminology towards countries in the Middle East that are guilty of worse.

You literally made that up you mad Nazi halfwit. You have never asked my opinion about death squads, nor have you ever provided any examples of governments which use them, in the Middle East or anywhere else on planet Earth.

You are literally fucking ridiculous. Stop making up arguments and telling me they are mine, and stop deflecting the topic of your own debate.

Well let's use your claims Nom.

you can't condemn Obama.

That is your claim, you mad Nazi halfwit. Not mine.

More importantly, your thread is about Ronald Reagan, so stfu talking about Obama.


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