The JEW?? - any relations to The MAN?

no one can be responsible for the killing of a fictional character except the author... or in this case authors.

Mr righteuous strikes again

I care because I dont like how he projects his angst of being a closet homo, into his jesus/scientology complex.

You say that like that is a bad thing- all those dudes should be put on trial

I think starting with any one of them would be a great start

how did you see and feel those miracles? colors, sensations or what ?

if you saw/felt miracles - then you did so with your senses - now everything your senses can see/smeel/feal/hear etc, scientist have tools to measure - or they can at least measure your brain while it is processing those sensations

By saying that the Bible predicted the coming of Chirst and how he died a "particular" death - I am assuming you mean that the old testament gives that prediction - if that is what you mean then that is not true - it doesnt give specifics on the coming Messiah, especially not about the particularities of his death

If you are on the other hand talking about the new testament than you should know that the oldest scriptures found on Jesus are written 150 years after his supposed death

about your law of contradiction you loose me at the start because you start by assuming (without proof - as religious people tend to do) that it is true and therfore other books cant be

And remember, the statement of the fact that a number of people saw Jesus die is made by people writing about the subject at least 150 years after the fact. Given that they didnt have cameras in those days - how sure do you think they can be?

and just wondering- how old are you?

I dont think a God exist, especially the kind that is described in the bible but I am interested in the reasons religious people give for bealiving in him/it/her

I admit the tagline is quite general (and I admit that I do like to make controverial taglines to spice things up)

But I think I make it clear in my first argument that I am talking about "the big three" and not in general. I have little or nothing against Zen, Daoism, all sorts of meditative "religious" practices, and to many religious practices to name here

To be more clear I think the Abrahamic three and Scientolgy are about the worst of the big ones, and Christianity in the USA especially scares me.

I do meditate myself from time to time and have drawn mostly from Daoism, Zen and Hermetic Qabalah concerning my methods of doing so

So it is not my aim to condem religious groups in general. The tagline was again just to get things going

Richard Dawkins idea of a meme was supposed to be analogus to a gene, not a virus.

Gene´s make up both cellular structures and viruses - viruses are in general distinct from cells in that they are parasites - i.e. not self sufficient.

I agree that meme theory is at least a great analog to evolutionary theory of genes - my point is that some cultural artifacts are meme´s and others are viruses: such as (in my opinion) the abrahamic relgions, piramid schemes of any kind, any kind of known ways to swindle, centrally controlled cults and probaby more things I cant remember.

I think promoters are to blame for a faulty product, and people who give them credit also share some of the blame for not thinking - following authority I think is a short cut to thinking.

I am a big fan of P2P and not so much of the classic school/lecture system and haven't attended a lecture in a while - so point well taken - school systems are corrupt too and generally promote other dangerous mental viruses such as patriotism which is a nice word for nationalism.

I dont get why you are disputing this but since you do I have to do so too.

No contest with your first argument

on the second: in terms of measuring matter in the universe the majority is chaotic (dark matter)

on the third argument; I think you are just stretching the word "informed" but Ill give some qualification: on the scale of 1 too 10 - 1 being a caveman and 10 being a rocket scientist - I would say religious people are about 2 - in terms of being informed ( you have to take into account that information gathering through the ages has been exponential in magnitude)

I didnt really get where you were going with the last argument.

I think the essence of "faith" is chance-taking - and that that essence is quite relevant, for so much of the universe and its systems are random.

But religious faith is when a pre-defined faith gets packaged into a commodity and sold to what in modern times can only be described as stupid (uninformed) people.

So in other words "faith" is a more general term than religious "faith"

Ok but that is still a high number (34%)

One out of three thinks the theory of evolution is some sort of conspiracy of elitist anti-religionists

and why do the 25% not have an opinion on it

It is the equvilent of not being sure about the theory of gravity "because some things float in the air I am not so sure about gravity"

I heard that some pole came out with the result that only 39% of Americans (meaning residents of USA not whole America) "believe" in evolution

- which means that 61% think that evolution is wrong.

I am not much in the mood to argue with religious people about evolution, but I will say this: To say that evolution doesnt work is like saying Lego chips dont stick together.

On another note, I am not sure if christianity should neccisarilly be blamed. Maybe it is just plain stupidity that is to blame.

So maybe Americans arent too christian, just too stupid generally(on avarage of-course)

Please do. (explain)

Do you mean that Atheism is some sort of post-christianity? - with the morals but discarding the fantasy??

If I understand you correctly, I would rather say that the scientific method is the mother of atheism.

To me it is the same as with James Brooks - If you tell a hundred jokes every two minutes, you are bound to get at least one good laugh

That doesnt make it great.

Depends on what you mean by spirituality.

I do think I expirence and enjoy moments that are probably quite similar to what religious people call spiritual awakening. I could even give you a handfull of ways for inciting those moments to happen more often.

I said the wheel not the Gear

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It is necessary until all religious zealots have canceled each other out.

After that rational people, finally having become the majority can work things out by healthy debate or at least computer simulated War.

It is in sense a part of the evolution of the species. Similar like the Cromagnon man died out and homo sapiens sapiens was left to roam the world - the homo religiousus will die out and homo techno-symbiosus will be left to roam the universe.

The only disaster that I know of that has happened worldwide is the global financial reccession. And it gets decent coverage

If I had to make a bet I would say gay for:

- He sure seems really bothered when being called one going to great lengths to sue people who say so (classic closet gay overreaction)

- His meltdown on the Oprah show was the biggest peace of over-acting he has ever done (and there are alot of movies to pick from) trying to act if he was really happy about marrying his whatyoumacallit-Hag

Boooooooo .... : )

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I like it better than the wheel.

If I had to choose one to dissapear tracelessly from the earth - I would choose the wheel.

If nanobots can heal then they could also kill so:

As soon as nanobots are roaming around and on-line; assault with a deadly weapon will include killing someone with a computer.

Then we will probably all have to get a license to drive our computer.

I dont understand what you are saying

"It doesnt necessarily mean because we can read online news in the internet...."........What??

I am just talking about counting how many words are read in a day - and I think that it is proabably more for the avrage kid to day, than 20 years ago.

No. Computers with the development of nanotechnology will cure all our diseases and make us immortal. All hail Technocratia