since Cerin had no rebuttle for you. I'd like to try. :D
ok so, slavery. They were all tryin to escape from us superior white people,and we wanted JUSTICE!!! Then we got compassion for them somehow, and now they live with us. With their hippity hop and grills and what not.
I've said this in another post here before, but it's the only response I have for this question. If you believe in fate, go driving, let go of the wheel, and slam on the gas for a few minutes. Don't worry, if your not supposed to die, you won't, but if you are, we'll that's one less irrational person on our hands.
This is selfish. Just because you get depressed seeing people loving each other and being happy doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to do it. If that were a proper motive to criminalize something, then there would be a lot of fat, lazy, ignorant americans locked up that depress me when I see them.
oh sorry, I went into "big picture" mode, those 206 days ago that I wrote that. Anyways, I no longer think only raising the minimum wage is going to solve much by itself. So I'm giving this one to you. Good job. I do still think that my salary change would work though. They would make it a living wage some how. Maybe by finding ways to lower cost. who knows? The point is, one of the priorities of the politicians would become: Making minimum wage a living wage.
1. Yea, nature should only happen in private...right.
2. What would be more gross to you? 1. Having that phlem in your mouth/eating it, or just spitting it out? Do you swallow? If so, thats pretty gross.
3. This annoys me too, but my free speech should not be restricted in any way, even in volume. So this one gets opposed too.
4. Agreed. This is proven to be dangerous. No argument here.
2. I like how you answered this one. Very dynamic. Much more all encompassing than my original point. I will say though, when it is your fault, you should blame yourself.
3. No system really. Just going on gut feeling. We were born with reason and feelings of guilt and fulfillment. I just run with that.
4. Yes, it is easy to form a community based on a mutual belief system of any type, religious or not. Easy does not mean it is a good idea. Also, yes, people with supernatural beliefs have done good things in the world. I wont deny that. But does the good outweigh the bad? I'm sure Nazis did a good thing or two every now and then. Does that mean there is a good reason to be a nazi? no, there isn't.
5. Jesus' teachings are just a bunch of rehashed morals from other previous religions (as best I can tell). I didn't mention him in my title because I wanted to be all-inclusive. I don't want any jews or muslims or whatever.. to miss out on my heathenism.
1. look at it this way, a long time ago, man theorized that the earth was flat, because he "needed" an answer. This was wrong, and probably prevented us from finding the rest of the earth sooner. False beliefs used to fill the gaps of what we don't know, prevent us from knowing more.
now, your reasons: 1: so you don't feel alone. A: get some friends. 2. you are being guided. A/Q: Then why live? 3. your beliefs don't cause harm. A: You don't know that. 4. You have a purpose here. A: If you think you have a purpose here, you must believe in fate. If you believe in something as silly as fate, do me a favor. Next time you are driving, close your eyes, slam on the gas, and take your hands off the steering wheel, and see where god wants you to go.
If my mom had me aborted, then my parents probably would have gotten divorced a lot sooner and they both might have had much happier lives. But I really have no idea how it could have turned out. That was just a guess. One thing I do know for sure is, I wouldn't have minded, because I wouldn't exist. Furthermore, If you fundamentalists are right, I would be in heaven instead of not existing, which I hear, is even better than living.
No. Even if people decide to make crazy debates like "how to properly rape a child", then it gives decent people the opportunity to tell them why they are screwed up in the head. Everything is debatable. Without communication we don't solve anything. ESPECIALLY for the things we don't want to see or debate about.
Yea, that's what this side of the argument was tagged as when I joined the debate. I suppose I could have made a new one, but I didn't think it would eventually oppose a problem. I was only going by the title of the debate. Obviously...
Well anyways, yea... don't just hand out condoms. That's not sex education.
I would say it's based more on being detrimental to the lives of the entire family, rather than just inconvenience. It's detrimental to the parents because babies are expensive to properly care for. It's detrimental to the child because it's born into a family that doesn't want and/or love it. No, this is not always the case, but it is often the case.
Preventing this type of family, and many other dysfunctional types, is a good enough reason for it to be a voluntary procedure, no questions asked. Only people who want babies, should get babies.
Do you think Susan B. Anthonys parents wanted her? They weren't disappointed. They had 6 more kids after her.
Sex education ≠ "Handing out condoms"
The debate is about weather or not we should teach our kids how all those parts down there work, or just tell them not to use them for anything but peeing and pooping.
How, in any way, does it hurt for the school to teach kids how their bodies work?
This is why I don't agree with not doing something because of potential goods things that could come of it...
There is potential good in almost every action. Maybe we shouldn't have fought the nazis because one of the soldiers might have invented a form of free energy. Maybe our founding fathers shouldn't have fought for our freedom because they might have been great poets. Maybe you should go out and rape and impregnate as many girls as you can because someone influential might pop out. No, The slightest potential for good things to happen should not be our guiding light.
Way too much. I can't go anywhere without companies trying to brainwash me. How much uglier is the countryside now that most of it is covered with billboards with pictures of fast food on them. This is also another way for big companies to stay on top and keep small businesses struggling.
Whats so wrong with questioning the quality of others beliefs? I live in a democracy. In a democracy, the majority is supposed to be making the decisions. It is my DUTY as a citizen of a democracy to try and spread the ideals I believe are correct to the people. In order to do that, I have to make people question themselves. I have to make people think.
I know there are A LOT of people out there following the same religions. Are they all completely wrong? ...Maybe, maybe. I'm open to debate, Are they?
Everything you DO, is shaped by the benefit you may get by doing it, yes. Not everything you believe.
I just don't understand how anyone can truly believe, given the world around us. I obviously don't believe, so I can't come up with what would be a good answer. An example of a reason to believe though, I'd imagine, would sound like...
"I saw a vision one day and Jesus told me to believe" or "My mom was in a car crash and I prayed and she got better" or "My uncle Ahmed had a near death experience, and when he regained consciousness, he said he saw 50 virgins waiting for him.
I don't think these are good reasons, but they are reasons, not benefits.
Your the only one that answered my question properly Joe. Thank you. That doesn't mean I agree with it though.
Belief, for the fear/hope that it is true, is impossible. There are a lot of religions out there. You can't use this method with all of them because christianity says that you can have no other gods, as many other religions do.
I've heard preachers and reverends say that this is the, "Insurance policy believers" and that," God will know who truly believes when their time comes".
The fear of a story being true, in my opinion, is not a good reason to believe, because I would be too worried about many different conflicting stories of fiction, that I could never appease, if that were my method of discerning facts.
Agreed, we shouldn't be handing out condoms and telling teens "go ahead, fuck". Point being, nobody is asking that. Your experience at middle school sounds about the same as mine, and that's call Sex Education. Abstinence only education is badly labeled. Pro-Ignorance is what I call it. Cause we all know the best way to make sure kids aren't doing something is to just tell them not to instead of teaching them about how everything works and letting them decide for themselves.
He brushed it off because it is not something he is going to change. He will leave Roe v. Wade as it stands, as he should. And as far as McCain being the voice of reason, tell me this: How is a newly fertilized egg any more life than one of the millions of sperm swimming towards it minutes before? Sperms aren't life? How are you defining life?
Pro-Choice all the way. The last thing we need is more parents with unwanted children.
While we are on the subject, Pro-Life shouldn't be called that. It should be called Anti-Abortion. Life is a much more general term that could be applied to war and capitol punishment.
Either fix or do away with the points system for users. It seems like right now they reflect only who is most active on the site and not who is the better debaters.
Also the addition of a basic forum would save us from seeing non-debates like: http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/
thats all i can think of for now
Just because something comes naturally to mankind, it does not make that thing good. Naturally, most people like cake, but if people ate cake every day, well, I don't need to tell you how bad that would be. I will agree, man is pretty predictable here, predictably not giving me a good reason to believe anything.
Your opening a can of worms with that one. Any candidate can potentially be wrapped around the finger of anyone. Even someone we don't know about. I am less worried about Obama being wrapped around his wife's finger, and more worried about him being a puppet for international banking cartels.
Even though I would love to, I'm not gonna keep debating 1-4. They were fun, but have nothing to do with what I am asking. Lets save them for another debate. Now on to the meat and potatoes.
Belief is not a choice. Your beliefs can change for a number of reasons, but beliefs are convictions of supposed truth. If you think that your belief is shaped by the benefits that belief offers, then I doubt you truly believe.
ok listen. Lets say I believe in evolution. The benefit of this is that my views are well respected in the biological community. Respect though, is not why I believe in evolution, I believe it because of all the research and fossils and explanations. If someone believed something just because of the benefits of belief, you could easily make the case that they don't actually believe.
1. Religion can inspire health? I don't know what you mean.
2. No, of course you shouldn't blame yourself for everything. Especially not rape. All I am saying is that you should blame yourself for things that are your fault. That's how self improvement happens. Yes, people feel better if they believe that god is watching over them. But, No, It wont stopped them from being raped if they go for walks at night.
3. yes, I saw the alternatives to your examples at the bottom. I just wanted to respond to each part of your argument how I would have if we were debating in person.
4. Internet communities can go everywhere with you. For instance, I just took you to the crapper with me on my laptop.
Also, I bring up the point a second time that communities of people with supernatural beliefs could be bad for those people or others that they try to 'touch'.
I answered 1-4 just because I wanted to, they are not really relevant to this debate. In number 5 you come close to realizing what I'm asking and how you should answer.
5. No. I do not want someones PROOF of religion existing. Nobody is gonna be able to do that. But, for people to believe things, for everything other than religion, they usually have a reason. The benefits of belief are not a reason for belief. If I believed in evolution, I would have the benefit of being respected in the biological community, but that wouldn't be my reason for belief. You are giving me benefits. I want reasons.
Our current money system has failed. There are more than enough of all resources to go around to everyone, but in the current situation things will go downhill if the slightest thing is changed. Or, more accurately, the people hoarding all the resources would have you believe it will go downhill. We could all live comfortably, even the shelf stockers at Wal-Mart.
Neither candidates had anything to do with this. It was not mudslinging, it was satire. Nobody was accusing anyone of anything. It was a joke about the media outlets making up news. I swear, Fox News has some way of making people retarded.
Why do people think that minimum wage being raised would in turn raise the prices of everything. Yes, business' would have to pay their employee's more, but they would also be getting a lot more business because of all the disposable income that everyone will have. It would balance out if it was regulated well.
I love hypocrites. This article talks about how we shouldn't focus on race. Then, the people who believe all the lies he is spewing, FW: this article to their friends with the subject line "A Black Man's View of Obama".
WHO GIVES A DAMN THAT THE GUY THAT WROTE THE ARTICLE IS BLACK? Give me any subject and I'll find a black man with the point of view that you have. People are trying to pigeon hole an entire races views because of one guy.
1. Nobody NEEDS answers. People need food, and air.
2. Psychologically, blaming yourself is the healthy way of dealing with your problems. It's the mentality that makes us better ourselves.
3. You can take away moral lessons without believing in the religion. I have.
4. Communities are everywhere. You don't need religion to be in a community. Also, communities of people with supernatural beliefs have done a lot of bad in the world.
5. All of the things you have pointed out are "good" things that come out of religion, NOT good reasons to believe in it, NOT good reasons to think Jesus existed, NOT good reasons to think there is an invisible man in the sky that will send you to hell if your bad, but loves you.
No way. I've never debated anyone before I came here, and I don't feel like I have any problem. How the hell did she become a governor without debating anyone? The only reason for this is not lack of debate experience, but lack of correct answers.
Yes. This is pretty obvious by just looking at the front page of the site. (that I admittedly have never seen before)
I am not one to judge a book by its cover though. I also found that Bill O'Riley and Rush Limbaughs brother David contribute to the site. Furthermore, you can find this in the advertising tab of their site. http://w3.newsmax.com/a/richrepub/
and this http://www.newsmax.com/advertise/
Their demographic is obvious.
In this case, the cover is a good judge for the book.
It's true that both have distorted the truth. That doesn't mean he hasn't gone too far. It means they both went too far. You should have voted the other way. Anything less than the truth is "going too far". Just because something is dirty, doesn't mean it can't be cleaned.
Wow. It almost sounds like a very sexist guy wrote your post just to be funny. Your examples of the things women do are blatantly stereotypical.
Let me also sum up your argument. Women can do a bunch of menial tasks that men can also do. Palin can't control her daughter, and it doesn't matter. She would be "awesome".
"Thanks for all the content", he said sarcastically.
I find it very difficult to think any of those people are somehow less relevant as commentators than 'random guy on the internet who likes ScoobyDoo'. Yes, you should get your information from different sources, but you should never discount someones opinion just because of what they do.
As long as it is fun for anyone, which I'm sure it is, the answer must be yes. Unless you just wanted everyones opinion about how they feel. If so, it's not a debate, its a poll.
Additionally, I find it fun to do it virtually. If I had a good reason to, I think I could get into it, and have some fun.
