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while there are many good policeman around, the ones that are making the news are giving a good impression of what is going on around the country. being white, myself, I don't see it as much. however, talking to African Americans around me ( even some other whites) in the Tampa bay area, they see things very differently. Tampa is another example, one of many in America, where the police are known to use excessive force on a consistent basis. maybe small towns are an exception, but in big cities violent police are becoming far too common

yes, I believe we are. following comments on CNN, and other new sources like FOX I see a growing amount of racial hatred. blacks blaming whites, whites blaming blacks. instead of dealing with what's going on, everyone wants to blame everyone else and make excuses. football players standing up for rights. thousands marching across the country. police killing unarmed people. this has gotten way out of hand, and not much is being done. our government seems to want to throw this under the rug, and pretend like its not happening. well, it is and we have to face it before things really get out of hand.

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the homosexual person who believes this is simply denying reality, just like an alcoholic who denies he is responsible for what he chooses to do. by using the word 'orientation' you seem to be using another word for thoughts, and it has already been scientifically proven that nothing can force a person to think a certain way. even in situations where a person is forcibly moved to believe something by outside forces, within that persons subconscious they have a strong tendency to deny whatever it is they are being forced to believe.

state of being is who you are based on your thoughts. the actions one takes is based on your thoughts and is the end result of your state of being. anyone can have a multitude of thoughts, some of which are not in our character but it is our choice whether or not to act upon them. so, in essence, what I am saying is choosing your orientation is no different than choosing what type of cereal you eat in the morning. we all wake up with choices to make every day and we can alter those choices accordingly. those choices can vary, even though we have preferences. the choices we make that lead to our actions are based on our state of being. actions are simply the revealing of what's inside, and what's inside we can choose or not choose to act upon.

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well, he would have to keep them in character ( for a more realistic outcome) so morality is turned on. standard urban setting and criteria for victory would be to bring the other into submission

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there are many things not covered as sins.....such as? also keep in mind, there are statutes listed in the Torah, that deal with " lesser sins."

chips over popcorn, chips over sweets....just give me the nacho cheese, baby!

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according to my understanding, the two best places to look at in the Bible for your litmus test would be #1 exodus 20 and the Ten Commandments and #2 Matthew 5 where Jesus redefines them. also, in Galatians 5:16-26 Paul lists them.

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....obeying your parents, not being harsh with your wife or children, listening to your boss at work ( whether they're looking or not), slander...you see, I grew up in the church and am fairly knowledgeable on the Bible. one thing is certain, whether you believe the Bible or not. there are some things that it is very clear on.

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....not to mention anger, lust, divorce, oaths, retaliating, loving enemies, giving to the poor, worrying, judging others, repentance, blaspheming the holy Spirit, sleeping with prostitutes, being a lazy worker....

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murder, stealing, adultery, lying, homosexuality, drinking alcohol, honesty in conducting business transactions to name a few.

whether or not you believe in the Bible, it is impossible to ignore how clear it is on many issues. on the different translations: many groups, such as Jehovah's Witness, have retranslated the Bible to fit their doctrines, which is what makes the KJV so unique. the KJV was not written to prove doctrines, but to make the Bible readable for ordinary people, as it was previously written and read in Latin.

the Bible is quite objective when it comes to dealing with morality. first of all, of course, there are the ten commandments. then, Moses presented the Israelites with lesser laws, or statutes, that go into great detail on how the Israelites were to treat each other. the Torah (1st five books) go into great detail on these things. proverbs, as well, goes into great detail on wisdom and what is foolishness. then, in the New Testament Jesus spends much time dealing with the sins of people, as do the apostles throughout the rest of the book. no, the Bible is very clear on things that are considered good and evil. perhaps you can provide an example to go by.

your retort only solidified my argument. the fact that the only news source that supports the GOP is Fox, does not negate the fact that Fox is biased toward Republicans. I believe you are an intelligent person, but I also believe that partisanship makes fools of intelligent people. it is a matter of you wanting to reinforce your partisan beliefs. p.s. I really don't care about my scores, or my comments being zeroed out. I speak my opinion fearlessly. I, in turn have no problem zeroing out your comments as well. :-)

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then maybe you should have been more specific and clarify that in your argument. who is to blame, when the topic is not properly presented?:-)

outside influences can only affect our decisions. the notion that we are not responsible for what we do is absurd. in that case, take out every child molester from prison who was raped themselves and erase their record. they were only acting as outside influences shaped them, right?

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I believe you may also be asking me about culturally following liberal or conservative paths. should he hold on to traditionalism, a conservative view, or advance as a society, a liberal view. I say both. they say one or the other. I have a feeling, though, that the powers that be will continue to push us into globalization, whether we like it or not. if you are a Bible believing man, sir, even the Bible supports this theory as in the last days the world will fall under one government, one state religion and one power. even if you are not, the U.N. already has a map set out for the world to be divided into 10 regions. it is inevitable.

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other than that, what type of liberalism are you talking about? classical liberalism or social liberalism? what type of conservatism? liberal, conservative liberalism, libertarian, fiscal conservatism, national/traditional, cultural/social, religious or progressive conservatism?

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we would have to further define what is conservative and what is liberal, I suppose. if you mean economically, I propose both. the last time both parties really negotiated on economics was during the term of Bill Clinton. he had a Republican Congress, and they worked together to find a solution. the result: the best US economy we have had in the last20 years. we actually were reducing the deficit and even had surplus. the last two presidents we have had have done no such thing.

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interesting point of view, and an even more clever analogy.

it is the same with any business. how much, do you suppose, a cashier at McDonalds makes compared to the owner of the store? a pittance? how much do you suppose a Wal-Mart associate is making in comparison to the Walton family? or even the store manager? isn't that simple nature of economics

if I had to pick, I would say both contribute. not to mention personal experiences and relationships have a great deal to do with what influences people's decisions and opinions....even in a debate. :-)

both sides are hypocritical. republicans and democrats tell their followers what they want to hear, and from a perspective that makes them seem like the good guys. meanwhile, both sides are wheeling and dealing to bring the swing voters ( such as myself) onto their side. it's all about the votes. it's all about the money. the power. the prestige.

Clinton didn't rape Monica Lewinsky, nor was he accused of that. she was performing sexual favors for him. if you are accusing liberals of being bias, you are displaying your own bias as well


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