How can they intentionally harm humans if they don't know humans exist?
Not knowing something exists does not negate the intent to harm
In order to decide, you have to have options. A virus is acting chemically - it cannot just choose not to replicate, etc.
Who’s saying the virus does not have options?
A virus does not foresee its death.
Sure it is. It foresees that not replicating properly results in death
A) malice aforethought is more than 'the most basic level of thought'.
Yet these viruses still have the most basic level of thought
B) no, a virus - which has no brain - does not have any thoughts at all
Sure it does. As mentioned earlier, these thoughts just so happen to be the most basic level
ok - looks like we are at an impasse. You are stuck confusing mindless action with intentional action.
OK. Maybe next time you’ll be reasonable and have a logically defensible argument
You should do yourself a favor, ask someone whose opinion you trust: "Does a virus have malice aforethought?"
How about this. Try telling someone outside of the Internet that abortion is a viable means of self-defense. They’ll know as well as I do it’s childish and foolish to say that it is
wrong. they don't conceive of humans, much less that their actions will harm humans.
Whether or not they conceive of humans is completely irrelevant. The fact that they can recognize that they need to infect a host in order to survive shows a level of comprehension that you’re not willing to recognize.
not desire - instinct/genetics/chemistry/physics. those that don't act this way die off.
Yeah those that don’t act on the desire to survive die off
not plans - instinct/genetics/chemistry/physics. those that don't act this way die off.
Those that don’t plan on acting that way die off
not decisions - instinct/genetics/chemistry/physics. those that don't act this way die off.
Those that make the decision to not act that way die off
not foresight - instinct/genetics/chemistry/physics. those that don't act this way die off.
Those that foresee their death should they not act die off
acting in a way the preserves itself does not constitute foresight about harm to others.
Sure it does. Not realizing that it does is foolish
all do.
If some humans can lack the legally requisite level of thought, how would these be considered to have it?
You mean like those people that think that parasites aren’t capable of the most basic level of thought? You’ve proven time and again that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how intent actually works
"A person intends a consequence when they 1) foresee that it will happen if their given series of acts or omissions continue, and 2) desire it to happen."
Yeah and at the most basic level, a parasite recognizes the consequences of their actions should they continue or not and they also desire it to happen. No complex thought required
Desire, planning, decision making, foreseeing consequences, etc. requires thought!!!
Yeah and a parasite operates on the base desire to survive, plans on making more of itself, makes the decision to infect a host, and foresees that not doing these things will results in its own elimination, none of which requires thought
A virus does not foresee the consequence of its actions.
It infects hosts specifically because of the fact that it foresees consequences
No one is saying that complex thought doesn't require a brain. For whatever reason, you've made the connection between intent and complex thought and refuse to acknowledge the truth that it doesn't. That connection just isn't there no matter how much you want it to be. The sole intent of a parasite is to cause harm if not kill its host due to an ingrained need and desire to survive. How does that show a connection to complex thought?
