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They will win especially when the defense of marriage act is discriminatory in that it defines marriage based on one's sexual orientation. If sex between two people of same sexes is not a crime, then why is same sex marriage illegal? And how does this violate the equal application of all laws?

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I disagree with your argument. The media has highlighted many cases of bullying that became criminal in nature thus exposing this issue among the general population. Also, the issue of bullying and its consequences are often discussed in schools, on internet, at work places, etc. Blaming immaturity or lack of understanding is not enough to excuse criminal behavior that may result in the death of another.

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Yes! Bullies who are involved in bullying others should be punished severely by the law. Many seem to be under the common perception that they can violate the rights and privacy of another and be treated favorably by the law. And we have seen it happened where victims of bullying has committed suicides while their alleged perpetrators enjoy the protection of the law and due process. If laws fail to provide deterrence, then what good is that piece of law when it is looked at with fear by perpetrators? What good is law that fails to preserve the safety of the helpless ones?

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I think prostitution should be regulated as a business sector and should be legalized. The spread of diseases and increase in abuses of prostitutes without regulation of the government can be damaging to society. Besides, prostitutes are often victims of crimes and treated as criminals at the same time. If the government cannot provide proper and stable employment alternatives, then it becomes the responsibility of these individuals to provide for their families. Also, pornography is considered legal even though money is involved for the act of sex so why can't the same logic be applied to prostitution? Why should the government be able to control my body if the act itself is mutual among two people?

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The right to own guns was created so it could apply during the times of war when every male civilian could have been drafted to serve in the war. So yes, the military is excluded from this group because the amendment was created to preserve the ability of the military. And you are right. The black market will always exist but let me ask you another question. Should we allow rapists to continue raping simply because they will do it anyways? If you are suggesting that we should not place stricter laws on gun possession simply because it will still take place through the black market, then you reason is flawed for a surety.

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Yes there should be. There should be laws allowing for a psychological examination of the person who is applying for firearm possession because many of the heinous crimes committed by firearm owners are committed by mentally disturbed people.

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I believe that would be a violation of the 8th amendment to the U.S Constitution and various underlying principles of applying punishment in a swift manner.

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Do you see a difference between someone who kills another civilian for their selfish greed and blatant violation of law from the state that executes someone for the greater good of the people they serve?

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No we should not ban dangerous objects just because it has the potential to be dangerous because in actuality anything can be dangerous. Guns are more dangerous because it is capable of causing mass murders within minutes and it seems that killers prefer to use guns in the execution of their plans. Guns are also the most focused weapons in the black market making it a more dangerous threat than other threats.

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So lets say a terrorist planted a bomb in an unknown location and it is likely that the explosion of such bomb will involve thousands of deaths. You as a police officer is interrogating the suspect who refuses to give you information and he is your only source of information. Would you resort to torture to save the lives of thousands and possibly millions?

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Thank you. For me, a discussion should be a learning experience for both parties. My discussion with you has been a valuable and a learning experience.

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I actually agree with you. I think if welfare programs are combined with self-advancement and empowerment programs, it helps equip beneficients with the tools they need to improve themselves economically which in turn can create an economically beneficial cycle that is passed on from one generation to the next. This will also help to ensure there is an increased level of accountability within the system. The implementation of these programs should involved various dialogues shared among governments, communities, leaders, sociologists, NGOs as you mentioned and careful analysis of the failures and successes of previous systems and protocols relating to these programs.

Like you, I think the welfare program should be modified but not eliminated because it impacts every sector of society. Without any welfare program, the prison population increases which increases government spending towards the maintenance of prisons and jails, increased health diseases due to lack of medications and nutrition thus also increasing healthcare spending. Unfortunately, welfare programs are often view through political lens by people who barely have any understanding of such system.

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The constitution is a living document so it is always being interpreted and the difference is certainly apparent in society which is reflective of many significant caselaws including Miranda v. Arizona and Roe v. Wade. Being equal does not mean you give everyone the same punishment because then you violate the proportionality of punishment clause of the 8th amendment. Different situations call for different responses which is typical of a democratic society. Science has clearly proved that the child is not mentally developed so I would argue the issue of proving the mental competence of the child is already addressed and solved unless you can prove otherwise.

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The question is not whether they understand law but rather, do they understand law, emotion and nature in the same way that an adult would understand these? Trauma can be psychologically damaging so it depends to what degree and whether that would severely affect the ability of the person to comprehend the nature of their action. Isn't our constitution based on mental awareness to comprehend the nature of the crime itself and the criminal justice system? Even if a child understands the difference between right and wrong, do they understand it in complex ways that the law views it? I doubt not. Faking insanity and immaturity often takes place with adults, not children as previous case patterns have shown. Even if you can show that these children carefully planned to execute their crimes, how can you show that they were acting based on their perception of reality or a "made-up world" of delusions. Actually, we are not excusing anyone so I have no idea what you are referring to. They will still be answerable to the jurisdiction of the family court with a combined rehabilitative and punitive approach. And oh yes, being equal is about giving fair consideration to certain groups based on strong evidence. Faking immaturity and insanity are often detected via several law enforcement and forensic psychological testings designed to detect malingering which is significant among adults.

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Even though there might be 12 year olds that are known for developing faster than other children from that age group, science has shown that it is still not possible for a 12 year old to fully mentally at that age nor do they possess the mental capabilities as that of an adult. Being incredible does not have to mean that you are mentally complete with compared to adults.

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I am sorry. I believe you meant to respond to markmcd9929 but you accidentally responded to my argument. That user outlined the points you are referring to which I offer rebuttal points as well. I sincerely apologize for the confusion but I am on your side so my bad.

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How does me requesting statistics from you in support of your argument makes me a recruiter? Do you even understand the nature of my argument? The standards of the army is irrelevant when compared to the standards of society and welfare programs. And joining the army is not plain black and white as you may see it.

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While I sincerely respect and value your opinion, I would argue that the centralization of power to a single global body of authority is incompatible because each country has a unique make up that is distinct from other countries. Also, the centralization of power leads to more destruction on a global basis. The root of global corruption stems from the centralization of power and authority. Governments must be created from among the people. People need a government who understands their needs instead of a foreign body that fails to understand the structure and needs of their country. Independence was gained from struggles and sacrifices. Placing our government in the hands of a centralized global body is similar to giving away the independence our ancestors so fought for.

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I disputed your example because medical facts and science have shown that even at 12, a child can lack the mental capacity to comprehend the nature of their actions. A depressed adult is different from a depressed 16 or 12 year old because the depressed adult still understands the nature and processes of the criminal justice system and hence, should be treated differently.

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Do you even have any facts or statistics to support your argument other than your own blind perception?

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However, the original premise of your argument was based on a 12 year old. Also, because the thinking patterns of someone changes as they become older does not mean they have become fully mentally developed given the fact that many teenagers are affected by psychological disorders such as depression that affects their mental judgement.

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While I respect your opinion, I believe that the crime should fit the mental capacity of the person. Hence, one cannot argue that the mental development of the child or adolescent is equivalent to that of an adult. We have to take into consideration the several factors that can affect teenagers and children as they develop including abuse, peer pressure, etc. The nature of the crime should be evaluated depending on the context in which it was committed and the underlying reasons.

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Welfare programs are a necessity depending on the context of the situation. Let's not forget there are single parent families who struggle to prepare their meals every day while they try their best to find employment and provide for their families. For these people, these programs are necessary to prevent them from being homeless or going by without a meal. I believe your definition of necessity is quite different from how the affected person would define such a concept.

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I am assuming by lazy people, you are referring to everyone on the program with absolute certainty. Such a broad and unsupported generalization. Don't you think?


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