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haha yeah you exaggerated but i heartily chuckled and felt compelled to make a word for it. from is a good guy

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hahahahahahaahhaha srom you just got sromed lol .

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hes mocking you and your beliefs and the fact that you responded believing this was serious says something about the "pro gun" beliefs in general which really don't make sense. that being "the answer to stopping gun violence is creating more gun violence!"

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why would god care if i believe in him, why does he take attendance? real love is making sure the other person is happy. If god exists he doesn't love me, or you, or anyone. live by your own rules. And if god wants to eternally punish me for not believing in him he can go for it.

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in the crusades not all christians fought with the catholics. .

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it says you'll burn in hell if your not christian in the bible! what is the fucking difference! excuse my language but you all need to get your minds right before saying ignorant garbage like this! edit @srom

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Its not the states responsibly to babysit egypt syria etc... You are however responsible for the wars YOU create. And the war Romney wanted to create and wanted to put massive amounts of money into (despite the military saying they don't need it) is an irresponsible war. Stop pretending disfunction in north africa is Obamas fault. Realize a completely new war Romney wants to start is really what we should fear and criticize.

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Its better than romneys "god bless america now time of war" .

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we are still the fittest. fittest doesn't mean physically fit, like a jogger say. Survival of the fittest mean "most fit to live" examples being rates of reproduction and reliable food sources. thats why some seemingly unfit creatures like bacterium or cockroaches are actually some of the most successful species alive.

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fuckin magnets. How do they work? .

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oh lol i get it i got 1.7 ahahah .

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you would fuckin die before getting anywhere close to the sun lol do you know how hot it is ahahahaha

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Srom fucks bitches and gets money all day. He lays a bible upon their naked body and snorts cocaine off the book of leviticus.

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HA! it means neverrrr loooooooooooool. Its funny cause I'm canadian and i no franch ha

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my efficiency is 95 liek a bawse because excluding the "liek a bawse" statement my arguments show strong signs of linear thought and are rarely brainless blabber worthy of a downvote. Also when I'm in my pompous asshole mood I'm still a lot more respectful than others.

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yeah but theres inconsistent messages here so as a tie breaker lets count the score... I gave you TWO bible ideas for rape and you only gave me ONE against rape ;)

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yeah i would say biological life starts at conception but legal life starts at birth. Abortion is not the morally correct choice but it definitely should be legal.

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seriously tho read it its some of my finest work ahahah .

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the debate was made by hellno.... OF COURSE ITS SERIOS ROT IN HELL LOL .

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Its settled he has a very rich, indulgent, and healthy life outside the computer! .

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your doing it right joe... as usual .

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they call me the masterdebater for a reason ;) unfortunately this isn't it .

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well since spelling in no way measures my intelligence or point building skills, especially at 1 o'clock in the morning, your the one who missed out. don't read my point, don't dispute it, its better for me that way. everyone will know the real reason is i proved my side of this debate and you have nothing intelligent to say other than "hurt durr i can spell u cant LOL"

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troy8 no offence but I'm going to tear another asshole in your mother. Your a fucking retard and I'm doing it just to spite you. Every waking moment your on this earth you hold humanity back with your stupidity and it pisses me off. and your debating skills? the most intelligent thing you've ever said was "not so hard daddy imma bleeeed" when your dads dick was in your ass. You aren't good at anything and man your an ugly fucker. Id kick your ass for the lulz (yeah with a u you couldn't possibly say anything to diss me so I'm gonna be cocky) but your face is so ugly i wouldn't be able to see the damage and therefore would receive no lulz. hey maybe you could give me some tips cause your such an expert on receiving? where is your LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU NOW! (this honestly is no offence haha just proving a point)

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firstly I'm not ignorant considering my entire family as well as all my friends (i go to a catholic school) are christian. I speak from observation. Obviously not all christians feel weak and unaccomplished or whatever, I'm simply trying to make these two points

1. the religion was originally made up partly because people couldn't accept they would simply die.

2. and secondly some people don't convert because they are too weak to accept we are alone. I don't blame them its a sad truth. Can an atheist say something different than flying sphagetti? perhaps but i like that culinary motherfucker so in this case, no i can't. I know there is no relation to gods existence I'm saying people mostly believe in god when times are tough and when they feel weak. example

*the overpriveleged teenager has little reason to believe in god while the 60 year old condemned to die alone in jail reads the bible every waking hour he's not working out or getting raped.

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creationists... guys evolution is a fact. a FACT. don't deny it. A semi-intelligent thing to say would be god created the shit that evolved into us (even this is probably not true) but please don't just dismiss it for your fairy tale bullshit some guy in the desert made up probably while he was wiping his ass with a leaf, because thats how long ago this stuff was made up. we've come along way fucking act like it. If you dismiss years of research and close observation for some book made up before we had indoor plumbing then your holding humanity back.

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no but muse is awesome live I've heard. I think the best live shows would be zeppelin, U2, and no h8 pls skrillex. only skrill because of the great stage and lighting as well as his fans being rowdy. If you like skrillex his concerts would be incredible. Im not a huge skrillex fan so no hate he's ok but were talking about live shows you have to admit that would be crazy. The U2 360 tour was orgasmic even though I'm not a big fan. i went with my dad. as for zeppelin theyre the best lol! my fave band.

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forgive me but YOLLOOOO!!!! just because you don't want to accept you'll die doesn't mean theres a god. You must face this, it happens to everyone. Just be thankful that you won the lottery to get life against all odds. Out of millions of possible you's that could have come from your parents dna combinations you were the one that got lucky. And also due to the law of conservational energy you'll never truly be gone. No energy is ever destroyed, you'll still be here just in a different form.

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Im 100% scientologist :( .

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yeah sure lol. The kyurem forms are pretty dope they're main function for me though is a kyogre slayer. the lower tiers are better i just don't have the work ethic to start team building haha

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also i thought id mention my parents aren't even that christian, i haven't been to church in like 3 years. They just don't want me to be an atheist because they don't think atheists are happy people. They also think atheists are cold hearted. Well i told them atheists aren't the ones who don't accept homosexuality, atheists aren't the ones who condemn others to hell, and atheists do just as much "mission work" as christians. Basically the main point of this debate is I want to be able to express to people that I'm atheist and my parents won't let me. Thank you all for for help

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well the bridge to castelia had me reach an orgasm i just think most everything else is too pixelized. I guess they're better than yellow version though! your right about the metagame its smogons fault though. The new weapons brought in by gen 5 are really awesome. I find nine times out of ten my teams have at lease two or three gen 5 pokemon. I can't lie I've got a kickass OU team and call me a tool but i also rape at ubers ahaha.

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thats what i told them .

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pokemon is the fucking shit and fifth gen. brought a lot of new power. Fifth gen is stacked with monsters like hydreigon, ferrothorn, the kyurem a and b forms, the genies, darmanitan, and many others. Just because one pokemon is an ice-cream cone does not mean this gen is taking pokemon downhill. Plus N is the most badass champion and zekrom/volcarona are two of the coolest pokemon ever made. This gens metagame is fuckin dope and the story is great. the only downsides are poor graphics and shitty starters

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its just common courtesy to dispute if you down vote js. also i didn't down vote you if thats your reasoning. .

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it is vandalism, and its not right and i don't approve but by definition it is still art......

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he didn't make satan, satan turned on him. Satan was the angel lucifer..................

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if I'm a serial killer you can understand me all you want I'm still gonna kill people. And jail does solve things at least while your in jail. Also i ask you this, if you recognize my side of the story how does this make me wanna change? Nothing is being done to stop me; action speaks louder than words

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i guess thats true in a brutal, fucked up way haha. also who gives a shit about hugging if one of them is gonna turn around and kill someone soon after. Ultimately justice means equality for all while understanding gives those who have done wrong an edge.

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the bible says if the fox were to stop nickelback would make a new album and then satan would rise

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if art is expressing yourself artistically than yes graffiti is art. does that mean I approve of graffiti? no, but its still art. Just because its vandalism doesn't mean its not art. in fact i would say the fact that its vandalism actually makes it MORE of an art because its not being made for money its being made purely to show distaste towards what your writing on, which is expressing feelings with a form of writing/painting.

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"YOU KIDS STAY AWAY FROM ME WITH YOUR SKATEBOARDS, CANNABIS AND DUBSTEP SHIT"

-my neighbour

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yeah i think what we find is on a debate sight you have a lot of passionate people and when you have guys like srom using the bible as evidence of god people get riled up. don't take it personally as mentioned above this is the internet and there are no boundaries.

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K im not saying stupidity deserves criticism because srom is far from stupid and he's a nice guy <3 You can take it from srom we rarely agree on anything yet i still back my statement. I do however believe that just because he's a kid (I'm fifteen, i think srom is also) doesn't mean he shouldn't take criticism. This is a debating site so I'm aloud to say your a dumass for having beliefs conflicting with mine. If anyone PERSONALLY goes after srom thats a different story. Ive mostly just seen teasing and disagreeing aggressively but if you have the links prove me wrong.

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Why would everything go tits up when rome fell? england and france got their shit organized and easily could have continued with scientific discoveries but didn't. about the "exclusively religious issues statement" Im not saying they were exclusively religious but without the religious conflicts many wars wouldn't happen. I can despise the catholic church and it is justifiable. Wars, they've raped kids, I'm constantly told I will go to hell, and i have to take a boring as fak religion course at my school. IT IS HURTING ME MAN! my uncle is gay and my christian great uncle won't accept him as his son! its not fair its a border line cult, its beliefs are very primitive and farfetched, and it plays a large negative role in my life.

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smh.... upvote for you cuaroc u made me giggle. Christians, don't you think that if there was a flaw in the big bang simple enough for you to think of, our leading physicists would have figured it out by now? .

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my first ally. nuff said .

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true that homes .

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simply because in the united states, canada, and britain (where most of us live) christianity is the biggest religion. An atheist from India would target sikhs or hindus.

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the reason why atheists attack religion is because religion is holding humanity back. We would be so far ahead if it wasn't for the christian period in the middle ages. Also religion starts much more conflict then the atheist v christian one. Homophobia, attacks on other religions, general ignorance and non acceptance, and claims that i will go to hell if i don't believe. At the end of the day it is completely justified for one to despise religion however i do believe focusing on ones own beliefs is more important than focusing on others.

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I would say the opposite. people who believe in god are weak who so desperately want a second life filled with happiness that they believe in something as absurd as the flying sphaggetti monster. They fear death, often because they feel unnaccomplished among other reasons.

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I guess my statement would be "less true" in places like britain and even where i live in canada but nonetheless this statement still stands for the majority of the christian world.

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I hate God. If he exists he's an ignorant prick who doesn't care about us. he's homophobic, inconsistent, uninclusive and primitive in his beliefs, as displayed by the bible.

HAIL SATAN put me in hell and make me a martyr!

LOL if any of this stuff actually exists iloveyougodiloveyougodiloveyougod please forgive me!

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LOL worst nightmare .

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no jenny, sorry bbg .

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I mean those who worship satan for mostly anti god reasons such as: "god wanted to hide intelligence and free will from adam and eve and satan freed us" but other forms of "satanism" can be brought int this debate, excluding paganism

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People are taught to be christian as kids and are too scared to leave the religion as adults.

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hail satan .

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?? then why did you even mention? .

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yes this is true... you'll either be successful and be in her pants or, the more likely alternative, she won't even like you as a friend.

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ik man ik... theyre everywhere .

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really hilarious guize .

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Your one of the most well known and respected debaters on this site. Exactly what srom said.

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wow firstly i would like to compliment you on your english it was very very clear and concise. Are you sure your from litchenstein? wow fantastic work! Secondly Fuck the non-litchenstein country they are run by little girls and the ethnics! who cares if its un-usual (it is btw)

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Hallelujah someone other than myself mentioned it! .

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Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek .

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women* are a bundle of emotions and maybe some men but i am mostly emotionless. I rarely ever get pissed off and i actually enjoy it when people insult me because i like to insult back. I can say I'm happy but its more a neutral feeling of contentment/non-depression then actual happiness/joy.

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I thought you were wiccan....................................................................................

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you are honestly one of the nicest people i know especially on this sight. You are among the ranks of people i respect most on this sight.

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thats the only excuse christians use. "Im sorry but the supernatural cannot be explained!" You can hardly count that as a valid point. If a gods existence is illogical i think staying atheist is a safe bet, lets just leave it at that.

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no god cannot be perfect, all knowing, and all good at the same time because for this to be true all things "evil" or "imperfect" can't exist. If you care for me to explain, refute me but the logic behind a perfect god isn't sound in conjunction with the world as we know.

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guys you can hate the US in sports (and in general) all you want but truth is: they are KICK ASS! sorry. they slaughter everyone in everything (except hockey ;)) If you didn't think they'd win the medal count YOU ARE NOT SMART! again... sorry.

-Love your canadian friend vandebater

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no but a life sentence is 25 years. .

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A life sentence in canada is 25 years not life. I think the argument that wins this debate is this one: This choice should be given for 2 reasons

1. it doesn't hurt anyone besides the person with the choice

2. Its a choice, so not EVERYONE has to do it.

The point is this choice will only be made by people it would benefit, an exclusive group of people. Say a person has a disease and has a life expectancy of 20 years. They may just want to die then spend their life in jail. And because its just an alternative if it helps just one person in a million years it was worth it. Our system remains intact with maybe one or two people benefitting.

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why is vandebater so attractive? .

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I thought vancouver olympics were better. Probs cause I'm from vancouver but when canada won gold in hockey. shit it was a riot! (not compared to the stanley cup riots though lol) these olympics were reeeaaallly good though. I was really rooting for canadian women's soccer and Usain Bolt!

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I meant give them the choice of death. Is that what your talking about cause it sounds to me like you said "kill them" as in execute instead no choice. is that what you mean?

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lol this looks like a presentation a grade seven kid put together at a catholic school. This guy doesn't know science for shit. His puny brain just doesn't understand. Look at the actual science behind evolution and it makes sense, even though it might not seem so at first. OliverJDH you fucking nailed it.

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will you send me nude pics? .

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what is the meaning of life the universe and everything. You better say 42 .

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If you hire a hooker all you need to do is film it and its legal .

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look, science is largely against god, and you've really only given two instances where it is for god. Don't go online and copy paste "ten different ways science proved god" or some other list cause i frankly don't give a rats ass. My scientist church statement was obviously taken very literally. To understand the real meaning, ask yourself how many world class scientists are theists. again no lists i don't care. Im not blaming anyone for irrelevance i simply stated i did not need to address your point because its not important. Nah is always an intelligent argument eh? ;P lets just agree to disagree okay?

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christians usually post first and atheists rebut whats given to them. The irrational arguments are the ones most christians use. No offence but many christians are ignorant and clueless. The critical thinking christians can provide some good arguments but they are mostly drowned out by the endless sea of "the bible said so" arguments. Therefore due to the sheer numbers of irrational arguments made by christians atheists end up clashing with mostly irrational, immature arguments.

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Okay so two scientific discoveries support god, who cares? Do you see scientists flocking to church on sunday? no, and this is because the vast majority of science goes against god. And personally i do believe god can one day be disproven, its irrelevant because as you can see the debate is titled "is the age of christianity slowly passing away?". wether god can be disproven or not, the age of christianity is passing, mainly because of people becoming more educated in science.

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The dna coding and "fine-tuning" of the universe is not at all proof of god. There is definitely more evidence against god found in science which leads logical people to atheism. Wether its stem cell research or other sciences people DO in fact abandon the church because of science. Im gonna ignore the "he'll never be disproven" point because its irrelevant at the moment. The point is science makes it hard to believe and so christians abandon their faith.

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but he's all knowing, so he knew there would be homosexuals. he's perfect, so it wasn't a mistake. So if it wasn't a mistake, it was on purpose. and he's all good so everything he purposely creates is good. so why would homosexuals be unnatural hell-dwellers if they are good? and god PURPOSELY created them

2 points

yes the queen does nothing of significant importance that she should be payed millions of dollars and we'd be nothing but hoarders clinging to sentimental value if we kept her.

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the intelligent debate is up to you to find. Theirs many possibilities to "intelligently" twist scripture to make god look gay. Also pissing off the christians forces them to post their stupid scripture and stuff which you can then tear apart intelligently. Denigration doesn't make you an asshole it makes you critical of the world around you which makes you intelligent.

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go look at any religious debates and the primitive skinheads on here will give you reference. I'm too lazy

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cells don't come from nothing. The first "cells" were bits of carbon based matter mixed with amino acids and they were extremely simple compared to our cells today. These cells weren't really living, they were the so simple they should not be thought of as "life". they just so happened to fill all the requirements of life (reproduce etc.). these things then evolved into the stuff that evolved into cells as we know them.

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I get what your saying and tbh i don't buy it either. I do however believe in this particular game my countries team played their hearts out against a team who much outclassed them and it feels like their hard work was all for naught. they won bronze at least (our first ever medal in this event) however i still can't fathom the disappointment this team must feel. We could've played the US a thousand times and this is the one time we would truly outplay them. I just feel robbed and what better way to cope than make a completely biased debate about it.

1 point

this.... this is the real bible! .

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if he's perfect why is the world so fucked up that some people think homosexuality is a sin

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christine sinclair is hotter........................................pfft lol.....................................

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no the call gave USA a late game equalizer that forced an extra time situation. Usa then proceeded to win in the dying seconds of extra time (many were also arguing that the ref should have blew it earlier but i don't really know so i won't make that argument)

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no the call gave USA a late game equalizer that forced an extra time situation. Usa then proceeded to win in the dying seconds of extra time (many were also arguing that the ref should have blew it earlier but i don't really know so i won't make that argument)


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