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westbfieldLa(22) Clarified
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That was an exotic smiley lol and yeah that's what I'm sayin. If ordinary people carry assault rifles, then criminals do, and cops should be fairly matched against them on that aspect.

westbfieldLa(22) Clarified
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So we both agree though on cops carrying ASSAULT rifles then?lol that's what I was pretty much arguing bout the whole time

Lol yeah I meant an assault rife not machine gun. A machine gun would be too heavy . Sorry for the misuse of terms .

People have machine guns in their car all the time, specifically cops. They're the best thing to carry around cause they're light. A machine gun can fit in your hand easily so it can fit in your car easier. Also, you do see a difference because it'll only be provided to the countries worst cities, where they need it. A communicator isn't fast enough unless they have teleportation abilities, cops are mostly by themselves. And exactly, obviously you wouldn't fire first or it would be murder. If you're by yourself waiting for swat against Enemies with machine guns, what're you gonna do with a pistol? Also like I said, only certain stations would have em not all. And I'll also enlighten you.. You just told me you said you have no problem with Detroit carrying machine guns yet you're fighting against it right now. Mind if I remind you that Detroit is one of the worst cities in the country.

Id like anyone right now tell me that they wouldn't feel safer with a machine gun in their car. Especially if you're in the countries worst city. would you bring a knife to a gunfight? The same thing applies to bringing a pistol to a machine gun fight. cops are barely protected these days and that's why a lot of em die. Cops put their lives in danger everyday. They have families to support and kids that look up to them. If a cop is in a dangerous situation with only a pistol, when he's facing a madman with a machine gun, then he's dead. Most cops in detrot and other bad cities now carry machine guns in their car to not only protect their lives but to help other people protect their lives.no one wants a cop least dominant in a bad situation. Unless the cop is a complete racist or corrupted by something. A cop is always at a disadvantage against a machine gun. That petty criminal with that machine gun will kill that cop, tear apart their family and the kids will wonder what happened to their father. All because he didnt match up against that dangerous criminal. Helping the cops in bad cities, I don't see what's wrong with that when they're by themselves for that period of time. A cop is here to protect people and themselves. How can they protect someone when they have weaker weapons then the opposing force? sure they have help when backup arrives but till then, they need to help themselves otherwise they have a high chance of dying. That's like an army equipped with pistols going against an army equipped with machine guns. Who's gonna die? same thing applies to individual situations. NO ONE wants the people that protect us.. At a disadvantage.

It isn't about fear. It's about people dying everyday by guns. Cops dying everyday by criminals. Take a pistol to a machine gun fight and see who wins. It isn't hard having a machine gun just In case. Detroit is already doing that and they aren't doing it for nothing.

Obviously that is an over exaggeration. I was trying to make a point about how quick something could happen to you when you're in an unexpected fight and you have a pistol vs a criminal with a machine gun. I would think it wouldn't be a disadvantage to have one in your car to take out if you need extra power.

Dude, listen to what you're saying. A machine gun is too small for a police car? Are you talking about a turret or a machine gun? Get your facts straight. A machine gun costs $100,000 ? What world are you living in ? Most machine guns are no where near that fantasy price and you wouldn't be giving it to every department and police care if you READ anything. Only the worst cities In this country would have em, especially ones that are high on violent crimes. USA wasted there stuff on plenty of stuff, they'll make this happen for a lives saved. And what happens from the time he's I'm a firefight to when the swat comes? Think man. Billions of dollars to fix? Man where are you getting your statistics? From an elementary kids diary? And your last remark literally contradicted everything you said. You just wrote down these so called "disadvantages" and now you say that you support Detroit officers carrying machine guns? You're on drugs.

Didn't know a machine gun was too heavy for a car. Didn't know it was that expensive to supply this to the worst cities to select cars. Too much firepower? I would love to see how you react when you just have a pistol against people with machine guns. And To take care of the gun? not that much work to save a life. It's funny cause I'm Detroit now, some of the cop cars there carry m4a1's , heavy duty assault rifles. Why ? Because they'll die with only a pistol. See how well you do against machine guns when you just carry a pistol with you. You'll be dead. It's a lot easier to get machine guns these days and most criminals have em. Cops know this and this is why they carry heavier weapons. Do you bring a knife to a gunfight? No. Then don't bring a pistol to a machine gun fight.

If someone came into your house with a damn machine gun and you had a pistol, who would win? You would most likely be dead with that pistol. And to the person that got 4 points for saying "police are there to protect people, not massacre them". Would you rather get massacred or massacre? cause people that are firing their heavy duty ak 47's aren't going to go easy on you and that pistol is going to get you killed. that's why more cops are starting to carry heavier weapons. Too many cops die already from MURDERERS. Last time I checked, there's a death penalty for that.

If the way I feel about it didnt matter then you wouldn't be arguing with me. Cops are here to serve and PROTECT, you're right. They have to protect themselves in order to protect someone else. Also they're here to serve justice. The last time I checked, we give the death penalty to murderers. If you were in that situation where someone was trying to kill you or MULTIPLE people were trying to kill you then the LAST thing you would be doing is trying to shoot them in the damn leg. If someone is rushing you then you gotta kill them or you put your life at risk. The intimidation factor of you having a machine gun would prevent a rushed attack to hold you off till backup arrives.

It doesn't matter if they're still people. if someone is shooting at you with the intent to kill you , then it's kill or be killed. You don't sit there trying to shoot at his leg when he has an automatic gun shooting you everywhere. Why take it easy on a murderer?

I'm aware the gun has more than one bullet. I don't know of any modern day pistol that only shoots one bullet. Also, I didn't think they would be clustered and that's why I said "they'll probably be scattered". Now, when a cop is trying to take cover behind is car and sees people shooting at him, trying to protect other people, what happens if people start rushing him, maybe trying to kill him or take him as hostage. These guys with machine guns arent scared of a pistol, especially if they're equipped. BUT if these people know he has a machine gun, they aren't going to rush that cop, and his life would be saved. Also putting machine guns In the back of select few cop cars in the countries most dangerous cities, isn't that hard to do and it gives no disadvantage , only benefits.

By the time you take out that pepper spray, you'll have 36 big bullets in your chest. And that's IF they know. Most of the time they rush straight to the scene and most of the time they're unprepared. If you're there when it starts, you got nothing until backup comes. You my as well have a machine gun in your car just in case.

Yeah they very rarely shoot anyone because in most of these instances they die. I'm just saying if a cop is out there unprepared and only having a pistol on him, wouldn't it be best if he had a machine gun on him just in case? cops don't roll around with tear gas and stuff when they're rushing to a scene or at an unexpected fight. I do agree with you though instead of using machine guns, they should be using tear gas. but in a direct confrontation tear gas won't be enough to stop them unless you wanna hurt yourself too. Machine gun is faster in this case and won't mess you up close. putting on a mask and trying to get tear gas off in time when it's spontaneous is too long opposed to just pulling out a gun to scare them off. .....imagine you're a cop and a gun fight breaks out with multiple people having heavy guns. they know you're the only cop at the scene. If you went for tear gas, your enemies might be spread out, one could be rushing your car, and your life is now at stake. Now imagine the machine gun. You walk into this fight , pull it out and shoot in multiple directions(if there's no innocent people) and scare them off. If I was a criminal, I wouldn't mind trying to dodge a pistol and tear gas , especially if there's a ton of distractions happening. But if a cop pulled out a machine gun, the chances of me dying if I try to confront up close would be high. Plus take into factor of the criminals wearing body armor. If the worst cities knew their cops rolled with machine guns, their would be less crime. The intimidation factor is high and they know if they commit a crime with violence, they'll most likely end up dead

If a cop is out there unprepared, what is pepper spray going to do against heavy guns?

Try slowing multiple enemies down when you're by yourself with a pistol and no backup on you and they have heavy machine guns. If you shoot at a cop, Expect to die. A cop won't second guess it. They aren't going to put their lives at stake JUST trying to slow them down and not killing them. It's called self defense.

I don't agree with that. Obviously they're there to protect people. You're not understanding my words. if you're facing multiple hostile criminals, wanting to kill you, what're you going to do, slowly shoot them? If you're on the verge of dying, it's either kill or be killed. Trying to slow them down with just a pistol will get you killed easily if you have no one around you. Try standing behind a car with people shooting you and having multiple enemies pursue you to kill you so they can escape. What is a pistol going to do against 5 machine guns? It isn't hard to keep a machine gun in your car JUST IN CASE you need it. Police officers die when they're by themselves and the time you're by yourself to the time your backup arrives, might decide whether or not you live or die. carry a pistol with you and take out the machine gun when it's NECESSARY.

If you knew the wish was coming true then that's the same thing as an act cause you know it's going to happen. The act is going to follow right after the thought and you KNOW that. By doing that, without wishing, then you wouldnt of died(intentionally causing your own death). This is only if you knew for sure the wish is going to come true though. Now if you wished for something but you didnt know if it was going to come true or not, it's the same. you're wishing(desiring and wanting something to happen) the wish is coming true, like you wanted, and now you're dead. This only applies to a situation though where your wish played a role in your death. Obviously if you wished to die and 3 months later you died by a deer killing you, then it isn't suicide. But if you wished to die, and that very moment, lets say, god granted that wish. That's your fault for saying that wish so you caused your own death. It's intentionally too cause you wished it. I'm not saying god would kill someone or anything like that, it's just an example. Like if you were being robbed by someone and you said to the guy, please man, just kill me, I wish I was dead, and he killed you ! Then that's suicide. Without saying to the robber, I wish was dead, then you had a chance to survive.

It's still suicide though because you're intentionally causing your own death. if you didn't pay that gunmen, then you wouldn't be dead.

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police officers with machine guns would obviously only fire when it's needed. There is no way they'll fire into a crowd of innocent people with a gun that powerful.. They have pistols for a reason. If a cop is in a situation with only a pistol and he's facing multiple enemies, like you said a machine gun is used for, then it's better having a machine gun. When cops face multiple enemies, with powerful guns and aimed to kill cops, what is a pistol going to do till their backup arrives? Not a lot. someone can easily rush you and kill you so they can make a quick escape. If you had a machine gun? I don't think many people will rush you with a bunch of bullets flying their way. Also cops have died plenty of times facing multiple enemies, waiting for backup. I think a machine gun might increase their chances of survival.

Yeah the heavy part of it I agree on, but if you really needed one ,and you're approaching a terrible situation then having one in your car will help in order to help yourself better. It's better having more power when you're in a position that you're standing in one spot anyway, trying to hold people off.

Carrying a gun is carrying a gun. What's it's main purpose? To kill. A pistol and a machine gun can kill someone easily, even though a machine gun is a lot more effective. If you're a police officer, especially in a bad city, you should be carrying as much as possible, so you're able to SAVE as many people as possible. as for how much that'll cost, I don't know if I support that. also take into consideration how much power a police officer might think he has cause an angry power streak from a police officer with a machine gun is a lot worse than with a pistol. but most police officers, even in history, tend to abuse their power with batons and not pistols, when it comes to police brutality. Also, most police officers aim is to help people cause I know the pay doesn't do shit for them. I don't think they should JUST carry machine guns, because if that was the case, their accuracy, especially fired in automatic rounds could kill an innocent person. I think when it comes to the money though, to supply every cop with machine guns, is a lot of wasted money. Police officers In a good city won't need that much of a weapon but a police officer in Detroit, may. I think maybe the roughest cities should pack some extra heat. Most police officers use pistols though because it's really effective. They don't try to take on armies usually and they're usually going against one or two people that aren't armed. When the criminals are armed, they usually only need a pistol in order to get the job done or distract them enough so they can get backup, and usually backup is very effective, especially when they know what the criminals look like, and where they're going. It usually comes fast too. Usually a pistol is enough to protect yourself cause when it comes to gun vs gun, it's whoever gets the first shot off. that doesn't really matter to police cause they also stay protected, while the other people don't. Like I said, machine guns should only be carried by police if you're facing multiple enemies, and you need to hold yourself off till backup arrives. so I think the most dangerous cities in the world might wanna take that into consideration, to have their officers protect themselves, and the lives of others, better with heavier guns.

Actually suicide is intentionally causing ones own death. so if you made a wish that you were aborted and you knew that wish was going to come true, then you're intentionally causing your own death. Just because it's being done by a doctors hands that doesn't mean anything, cause previously you made a wish saying that you wanted to die and without that statement, a doctors hands wouldn't be involved. Even if he wished that and DIDNT know the wish was going to come true and it did, it's still suicide. If you wish for something, you hope and desire for something so you're obviously wanting the wish to come true. If you're wanting it to come true, you're wanting to die, hence intentionally causing your own death.


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