CreateDebate / Andsoccer16's Waterfall en-us http://createdebate.com/ CreateDebate / Andsoccer16's Waterfall Would you sooner let your faith rest with science or God? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Would_you_sooner_let_your_faith_rest_with_science_or_God#arg30361 How about we look at the contributions of each to society?

Science:

Modern Medicine

Cars

Computers

Airplanes

Televisions

etc...

Religion:

A list of reasons to hate your neighbor

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Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:40:42 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Would_you_sooner_let_your_faith_rest_with_science_or_God#arg30361 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Gentically Modified Organisms (GMOs): Are They a Threat to the Environment? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Gentically_Modified_Organisms_GMOs_Are_They_a_Threat_to_the_Environment#arg30357 GMO's are currently necessary to sustain the world's population, because crops that have been modified to yield more food. Is this the only option? No. Is it currently the best option? I don't know of an alternative, and if you can think of one I'd be happy to hear it.

You claim that GMO's can cause negative mutations in your DNA. From this statement alone I can assume you don't know anything about genetics. Your DNA cannot be affected by what you eat (unless you're eating radioactive food).

As for genetics, it's not like the scientists randomly tweak some stuff and throw the plants out into the wild. They do tests, and we actually know a whole lot more about genetics then you imply. If your argument is that we need better regulation, then I see no harm in that. Make the scientists prove their is no harm before they release a certain GMO. You don't need to know everything about genes to conclude weather the plants will be safe or not. Instead you can observe the plants in tests in order to determine the potential risks.

As for your article, I was only able to read to abstract so I cannot comment fully, but from what I saw it seemed to be fairly unrelated. More importantly though, it was published in 1991. That means before the human genome project and all the other advances that have taken place in genetics. That means the article is obsolete, and irrelevant to the discussion.

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Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:24:01 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Gentically_Modified_Organisms_GMOs_Are_They_a_Threat_to_the_Environment#arg30357 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
How will the massive technology layoffs in the US affect the Internet? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/How_will_the_massive_technology_layoffs_in_the_US_affect_the_Internet#arg30242 I don't think that's necessarily true. In the past if you wanted to make a website you needed to know a decent bit about computers and programing language. Now there is lots of software that make it so anyone with even a basic understanding of computers can put together a decent looking website. In fact, it might even be easier and cheaper to make a website, because all those "tech savvy people" who used to be employed would need to find work elsewhere, and might turn to part time web-design as an option.

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Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:49:31 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/How_will_the_massive_technology_layoffs_in_the_US_affect_the_Internet#arg30242 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
What are some examples where we strengthen the weak by weakening the strong? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/What_are_some_examples_where_we_strengthen_the_weak_by_weakening_the_strong#arg30240 The Glorious Revolution in Great Britain is a great example of this. They weakened the king's power so that the people could have more rights. Parliament gained power and everyone was happy. In fact, England has had one of the most stable western governments in modern history.

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Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:20:40 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/What_are_some_examples_where_we_strengthen_the_weak_by_weakening_the_strong#arg30240 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Are we doomed when Obama is inaugurated Jan 20? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Are_we_doomed_when_Obama_is_inaugurated_Jan_20#arg30237 You can't be serious. The whole birth certificate scandal was made up by right wing bloggers and is complete bullshit. If you don't believe me, look at factcheck.org's site. They actually saw the birth certificate, touched it and inspected it. Hell, there are even newspaper clippings of the announcement when he was born from over 40 years ago!

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Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:13:27 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Are_we_doomed_when_Obama_is_inaugurated_Jan_20#arg30237 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Should people on welfare be denied a drivers license and a car? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_people_on_welfare_be_denied_a_drivers_license_and_a_car#arg30217 Apparently "Joe the plumber" was on welfare at one point.

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Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:47:39 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_people_on_welfare_be_denied_a_drivers_license_and_a_car#arg30217 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
alien and human marriages http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/alien_and_human_marriages#arg30215 You missed the context of the debate. When this person posted this debate they had been very active in the homosexual marriage debates, and it was clear at the time that this was another ridiculous way for them to approach that topic.

If you want my opinion on alien human marriages, I would say this: you can't marry what doesn't exist. When actual aliens come along I will form my opinion based on their nature, but until then the debate is about as nonsensical as a debate about human elf marriages, or human troll marriages (more so if you take into account the fact that we actually know something about elves or trolls).

If the aliens were so much like humans that you could actually mistake one for the other, then I guess I might be in favor. Once again though, if we did meet aliens they would almost certainly be nothing like humans.

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Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:43:58 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/alien_and_human_marriages#arg30215 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Israel versus Palestine http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Israel_versus_Palestine#arg30107 Maybe what Hamas did was wrong but this doesn't mean the people should have to suffer. These are people just trying to live their lives. If you watch the video you will see the Israelis attacking people without provocation, and not only that but they have stopped international aid from coming in to help the Palestinians.

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Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:44:32 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Israel_versus_Palestine#arg30107 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Why I hate conservatives and the Religious Right http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Why_I_hate_conservatives_and_the_Religious_Right#arg30106 Yeah, I agree completely. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean their wrong or not entitled to their opinion. Politico needs to learn this.

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Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:37:39 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Why_I_hate_conservatives_and_the_Religious_Right#arg30106 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Israel versus Palestine http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Israel_versus_Palestine#arg30006 Regardless of who is "right" the violence needs to stop. Wheather you disagree with one side or the other innocents are being killed on both sides at an alarming rate. Anyone interested in this topic might want to watch this video.

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Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:35:04 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Israel_versus_Palestine#arg30006 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
What are your reasons for loving/hating America? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/What_are_your_reasons_for_loving_hating_America#arg29978 When asking a question like this, the first thing you have to specify is "what is America?" Is it the government? The people? Our culture and history? The founding principles as laid out by our forefathers? For the purposes of this debate I'm going to go with all of the above.

I love the fact that our nation has certain core beliefs. Freedom of speech, religion and the press, the right of every citizen to vote, and the fact that we are innocent until proven guilty are all examples of how we have a government that respects individual rights above all else. Theoretically anyone can run for any political office (even president!) and people can say anything they want to about the government without fear of repercussion. I laughed my ass off when I saw a video of someone telling dick Cheney "fuck you." It was a great example of the extent of the freedom we have in this country.

What I don't like is the hypocrisy: from historically denying citizens their rights (women and minorities) to denying other people their right to self government (Vietnam, Iran, the Philippines etc...). Our current spending is an example of how we attempt to force our will on others for selfish motives instead of sticking to our principles. We spend about half of our budget on the military. Sound like the land of the free?

As for our people, there are positives and negatives. We're pretty good at running a democracy and compromising when we disagree. We've only failed at this once in our entire history. What I don't like is our feeling of superiority. We assume that we can't learn from other peoples, but that everyone can learn from us. This occasionally gets us into trouble when we try to impose our way of life on cultures we know very little about (coughIraqcough).

Overall I do love America. I love what we stand for and how far we have progressed throughout our history. If I am sometimes disappointed in our actions, it's only because I have such high expectations for a nation founded on such noble principles.

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Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:58:09 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/What_are_your_reasons_for_loving_hating_America#arg29978 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Should we move toward one world government? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_we_move_toward_one_world_government#arg29969 what if we allowed nations freedom to govern how they wished but had a world organization that dealt only with universal issues? I think we can all agree that human rights and environmental policy are two areas where an international government would be useful, but at the same time not be imposing on other cultures. Allow the nations to keep doing what their doing except in a select few areas that affect the world as a whole. Otherwise you have nations like China who pollute incredible amounts and answer to no one, or like zimbabwe where the government has allowed thousands of it's citizens to starve to death.

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Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:07:00 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_we_move_toward_one_world_government#arg29969 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
LOL at Hamas, Israel just raped them with bombs http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/LOL_at_Hamas_Israel_just_raped_them_with_bombs#arg29949 Actually before and during the early European middle ages the ottoman empire was pretty tolerant of different religious groups. Christians and Jews were both considered to be "people of the book" because the Islamic faith recognizes the new and old testament in their teachings. Later though the empire was taken over by extreme conservatives who were against progress. This was when the whole hating other cultures thing began in more mainstream Islam. The extremists who use violence though are still a minority even today. Unfortunately many innocents are caught in the crossfire. People who want nothing more than to live their own lives in peace. Your failure to recognize the difference between extremists and ordinary people reveals a narrow-minded simplistic view of the world.

If you want to talk about hating Jews however, look no further than Christianity. It has a long history of antisemitism (they used to burn Jews at the stake). Let's not forget the holocaust took place in Europe, in a predominately Christian nation.

Sorry, Islam has always been radical, has always been violent. The only way to deal with them is to destroy them.

If you believe the death of over a billion people is the only way to deal with Islam, then you are much worse than the people you are against. You are both a hypocrite and an extremist.

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Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:24:05 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/LOL_at_Hamas_Israel_just_raped_them_with_bombs#arg29949 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
I finally understand the phrase "Hate only leads to more hate." http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/I_finally_understand_the_phrase_Hate_only_leads_to_more_hate#arg29948 The movie American History X does a really good job at demonstrating this point. Hate tends to lead to consume people and take over who they are. Sometimes it gets to the point where a person can only define themself by who they hate. This is true for so many groups, from racist organizations to extreme religious groups (like those we are fighting in the middle east). The negative implacatuons of extreme hatred are so prevalent that it's hard to understand how anyone could accept this way of life.

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Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:59:10 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/I_finally_understand_the_phrase_Hate_only_leads_to_more_hate#arg29948 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Are we doomed when Obama is inaugurated Jan 20? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Are_we_doomed_when_Obama_is_inaugurated_Jan_20#arg29921 If we can survive Bush then we can survive anything.

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Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:28:13 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Are_we_doomed_when_Obama_is_inaugurated_Jan_20#arg29921 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Which scientist did most to change the way we look at the world? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Which_scientist_did_most_to_change_the_way_we_look_at_the_world#arg29920 Copernicus was the one who scientifically disproved the geocentric model of the solar system. His work sparked the scientific revolution and led other scientists (such as Galileo) to add on to his work.

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Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:21:25 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Which_scientist_did_most_to_change_the_way_we_look_at_the_world#arg29920 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
How many languages do you know? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/How_many_languages_do_you_know#arg29870 2 - English (first language) and Spanish (not fluent but proficient). I suck at writing in Spanish though.

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Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:38:26 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/How_many_languages_do_you_know#arg29870 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Who's more patriotic? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Who_s_more_patriotic#arg29835 In the history of the U.S. name one person who has donated money to the government. The closest thing I can think of is war bonds, but people got that money back.

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Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:43:38 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Who_s_more_patriotic#arg29835 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
G-d vs Science; You decide. http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/G_d_vs_Science_You_decide#arg29811 If there is a natural God science will find it.

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Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:53:28 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/G_d_vs_Science_You_decide#arg29811 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Why I hate conservatives and the Religious Right http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Why_I_hate_conservatives_and_the_Religious_Right#arg29799 I never said every Christian was crazy. I was merely addressing the stereotype that the creator of this debate was using. That's like me saying "I don't like spoiled milk" and you saying I called all milk spoiled, when I didn't do that at all. I intentionally used the term "crazy born again Christian" in order to demonstrate the ridiculousness of the topic

I'm not sure how I feel about your nickname, but if we go by the saying "the majority is always sane" then Christianity would be very sane.

In conclusion, don't put words in my mouth and infer meanings I did not intend. I was defending conservatism but you were blinded by your bias against me. Most of my friends and all of my family are Christian so in no way do I think Christianity makes you crazy.

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Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:48:35 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Why_I_hate_conservatives_and_the_Religious_Right#arg29799 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
G-d vs Science; You decide. http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/G_d_vs_Science_You_decide#arg29769 That reminds me of something I heard (I forget from where): "Can we ever know anything? If not, how would we know?"

There is always the possibility that something greater than the natural exists, but if so, why should we care? Clearly it doesn't affect us, otherwise science would find evidence of it. Nearly every mystery that baffled mankind was eventually explained as having natural causes. No divine intervention necessary. Rainbows were once thought to be intelligently designed because people didn't fully understand them. At this point we know enough about evolution and natural selection know that the process can work fine on its own. An intelligent designer is superfluous.

I respect your position as an agnostic, but I prefer the term atheist for myself because I know (to a reasonable degree of certainty) that I live in a world that follows natural laws. Can I explain everything? Of course not. Does that mean I think there isn't an explanation? No, and I would never try to explain the unknown through a deity or supernatural power. Really that's no better than saying "it's magic". Such a response doesn't help us understand our universe any better.

Maybe I'm just dreaming this entire world and nothing else exists. Technically you can't disprove this, but if that's the truth why does it matter? It still appears as if everything else exists so why should I worry about the unknowable?

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Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:06:17 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/G_d_vs_Science_You_decide#arg29769 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
People are stupid. http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/People_are_stupid#arg29766 We learned to speak to one another

We built tools

We created fire

We passed knowledge from generation to generation

We learned to read and write

We built towns

We built cities

We made ships

We conquered the world

We used electricity

We made cars

We learned how to fly

We made radios and T.V.s

We went to space

Today, I can communicate with someone from across the world through the internet without even leaving my bed. That seems pretty smart considering our origins.

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Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:09:53 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/People_are_stupid#arg29766 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
G-d vs Science; You decide. http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/G_d_vs_Science_You_decide#arg29765 The idea of God is built by reasoning? Really? That's news to me. I'm pretty sure it was just a lot of people who couldn't explain the universe and therefore believed some omniscient being must control everything. Most people don't arrive at the concept of God through rational means, but instead usually follow traditions set down by their parents and those around them. Usually those intelligent enough to question these set beliefs come to a different conclusion.

Also, just because an idea is accepted doesn't make it right, or even good. Slavery used to be an accepted idea, and so did the idea that the world is flat. Truth is not a popularity contest.

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Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:03:15 -0600 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/G_d_vs_Science_You_decide#arg29765 http://www.createdebate.com/uploads/profile/1255_2.gif andsoccer16 http://www.createdebate.com/user/viewprofile/andsoccer16
Should weed be legalized? http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_weed_be_legalized#arg29752 Ideally this should be the case. Laws should be based on reasons. If we can't think of a reason why we have a law then the law shouldn't be there. For example if there was a law that said you have to cross your arms when you walk across the street on Tuesdays, would you say "Why should it not be against the law to walk without your arms crossed on Tuesdays?" The answer of course would be because the law doesn't make sense. Laws must be based on reason. The question should instead be Why should it be against the law? Not the other way around.

As for marijuana specifically, there are a couple reasons why it was outlawed. States began to outlaw it in the 1920's because newspapers were printing stories that claimed the drug made people go crazy and go on killing rampages. Obviously we know now that is not true, and in fact these newspapers were simply writing these sensationalist stories to make a profit.

Companies like Dupont also wanted marijuana outlawed because hemp was competition for nylon and other products they created. See the link below to get a more detailed answer to the prohibition of marijuana.

I know your a conservative Jake, and as such you tend to accept the status quo and reject change, but sometimes it's important to ask why things are the way they are. If you don't have a reason why marijuana should be illegal then maybe you need to reevaluate your position.

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