your elaboration is on the debate site. too much of a pain to do something so long here.

I will definitely get a full response back soon- don't worry...

I doubt that we disagree on almost everything... in fact I know that I have agreed with some things you have posted and voted them up. Just because we voted for different presidents, I am assuming that you voted as you have not said, does not mean that we disagree with every thing else... I think that this is part of the problem with partisan politics. Maybe if the Dems and Repubs focused on what they do agree on and worked on those issues first more would get done! =)

I don't want to be your enemy. As you can see from my profile I don't have any... just because we don't agree on something does not make you my enemy.

Ok, I apologize. I thought you were opposing it.

No problem Heather, thanks for doing so now!

Heather...please do me a favor and delete the message with my phone number on it ASAP. You may, of course, keep it but no one else needs to know what my number is. Thanks, Chris

So you guys kissed and made up ;) Good!

That's great Heather...that makes me happy for you. I'm OK or as well as can be expected...lol!

No problems...I'm sure it was an oversight. Now how about opinionated...are you still using it on other debates or can it go? Remember when I said to get rid of ALL your aliases. I just want to get you straightened out here for everybody elses sake too as well as yours. How are you doing anyway?

I see you're still hostile toward me....what do I make of this?

What would you say to a real truce and let's rid ourselves of the enemy cloak? Get your other names out of here and we can participate in all debates. I will say nothing about those names to anyone and they won't be missed. Just stay on repubgal and when others see that we're both participating in the same debates, it might make it easier for you here. What do you think?

And I have free long distance

that should have been NOT sure

Seriously, If you didn't do it just forget it...

E-drama is bad for everyone, and it blows the whole arguement out of wack because you can't punch the other person if they say something over the edge, now can you.

Just drop it, its not worth it, just leave it alone...

Hi. Hey, I know you're getting a lot of grief out there and I don't see a way out for you. I mean, I have never been able to change anyone's mind about anything and so:

1. I doubt you will be able to change anyone's mind... but more power to you if you succeed.

2. I doubt you will take my advise but....

I would just drop the whole thing and let it blow over.

you can delete my last comment if you want. lol

Ithink the whole trolling thing is very childish, but I am not about to lie to them saying I got downvoted.

(this isn't an attack saying you did it, just that I think whoever did do it is childish...)

:)

Oh, I know what your talking bout and I was quoting kukla...

I never said anything like that....

As far as being a Catholic in support of Obama, it is just that. Many Catholics do not support Obama because of his stance on abortion. I am pro-life, but feel that that choice is not for government to make.But, if you look on line, there are similar signs for all kinds of demographics from women for Obama, to Republicans for Obama. It has nothing to do with specifically being Catholic - it has to do with supporting Obama.

“Going to church doesn’t make one a Christian anymore than going to a garage makes one an automobile.” Maybe you have some self work to do.

oh well if they want to be petty and stupid so be it. i truly don't care what they think hell the only reason i haven't left this site is because i like reading the arguments i thin they should restrict kukla to just being ale to read them and not be able to take any part in reaction to this site at all but they prob wont she is causing waaaay too much drama here. but my advice to you is just ignore them all together and pretend they don't exist. lol

Mm.. I don't know how they'd prove you innocent either. Well, this issue now is something the site admins can't deal with. They've done their part. If you're not guilty, why should claims prevent you from debating? And if you are, just keep in mind that guilt is pretty painful.

That said, I'd suggest that you start debating like before and work on your efficiency. :P If you keep getting downvoted because of this issue (and not because of the quality of your arguments), then you'll just have to make a new account and start over. As they say, "friends come and go; enemies stay forever."

No I couldn't see anything before, which is why I remained neutral. But even giving you the benefit of doubt, I can't think of any good reason for that...if you can give me a plausible explanation (which I doubt) beyond blaming the CD system, I'll have to say that the evidence goes against you. Well, at least for opinionated. I'm not 100% sure about the others.

And I'd agree, this is ruining everything. All of a sudden I have you, dcool, opinionated, and kuklapolitan on my tail as if I was the one instigating everything. :\ I almost wish I'd never talked to any of you before so that I wouldn't have to go through this. And what's especially painful is when people who used to be "friends" turn on you because you don't support them...I guess the saying, "If you're not for me, you're against me" is right. :s

Thankfully, (possibly as a result of this) CreateDebate has already added in a feature to help prevent mass-voting of a single person. =) Which is a very good thing. It's quite amusing for me to think that you've helped force CreateDebate to address this issue (although klukapolitan definitely gets part of the credit too). xD I guess I wasn't vocal enough when it happened to me a month or so ago. ;D (and no, I'm not pointing any fingers, especially not at you; I suspect someone else =] )

And sorry for the double post. CreateDebate doesn't allow posts longer than 1000 characters. :)

Hey hey, no need to worry. I'm not getting sucked into anything. Like I told opinionated, "don't worry. If you're innocent, then you are. No amount of accusations will make you any less innocent. =) If you're not, then I really don't care." And I've told klukapolitan that I really don't want to get involved. I do want the issue resolved fairly (whatever the result is), but I'm not passing any judgment.

I'd have to say though that I was quite disappointed to see klukapolitan's galling writing on your profile. Even if you were guilty, I don't think that she needs to "hit below the belt" (i.e. name-calling). Two wrongs never make a right.

jSYK im not taking part in the flame war... I have no problem with either of you k?

never mind.... IDK anymore... >.> if she wants to ask about it... oh well, IDK you but you seem nice i guess...

sorry but I can't accept at this time.... It would make me look like an alias of dcool..... no offense, but my name is in the crapper right now and I dont need it worse...

No, I don't think I can be offended. BTW, your argument showing up with opinionated's picture made you look really bad.

oh, ok then

yes i know you said that thats why i put it in quotes i just like that comment alot srry if it offended you

dont you just love my stats kuko must have thought it was me that did it lol oh well i dont care lol

i understand bout the security thing but i dont worry about that to much in not

old enugh to vote either im only 16 and im a southerner that loves his guns

and cars/trucks. lol.

I'm also most out spoken and most creative. What I'm not is most persuasive. :)

Hahaha. No problemo. I just hate making enemies is all.

I feel like i'm in the middle of two world wars right now. One is between you and Kuklapolitan, and one between Bradf0rd and Beanbag. Geeze. -.-"

Great minds think alike ;)

Keep up the good arguments!