Great music debate, sorry that I had to add an argument to each side, but I really can go both ways! =)

HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

KUUL! Pay attention...lol....Barack Obama!

Write something to waaykuul...this all goes to your definition of a terrorist. I was flipping around and saw a site that says there are over 120 different technical definitions of a terrorist. In my opinion, a terrorist is someone who uses violence outside of warfare, intentionally targeting a civilian population, for the purpose of forwarding a political goal through intimidation or fear. The Weathermen fit the bill IMO. The Pentagon is an office building, although obviously an office building for the military. The Capital is not a military targets. The officers club at Ft Dix during a dance with civilians is not a military target. A police station is not a military target. The banks and armored cars they robbed to fund their ops were not military targets. The cops killed, armored car drivers and other bystanders were all civilians.

I know however that stuff makes sense sometimes when we write them because we see them how we meant them to look. Of course they don't look the same to someone else. For example, I wasn't calling you an eight year old; I was riffing off of Obama's silliness about his being eight when the bombings occurred. He has never been blamed for the bombings, just for overlooking them when he got together with Ayers. Anyway, I need to stop posting in the middle of the night when I am tired and cranky. Thanks for your apology but it wasn't necessary. I overreacted because I was tired and still pissed off from the previous two lengthy fights with other folks.

hey, if I was sensitive to being attacked I wouldn't feel free to attack myself. No worries. What I don't have patience for is the kind of games I felt you were using last night. picking part of a phrase to make me defend or part of what I said. Or responding to my attacking Obama by attacking McCain. Just because I am scared of Obama doesn't mean I am thrilled with McCain. I defend him on several counts but that is it. This is the third time in a row folks have challenged me and resort to the same tactics. it just gets old and I am afraid I don't respond well. truth is that I was almost literally rolling on the floor when you said Ayers isn't a terrorist because he says he isn't.

I don't think dcool15 IS repubgal...I do believe they are somehow connected in all this though. All those names came so quickly it was difficult to decide who was who. Thus far she is certaily repubgal, opinonated and crazyvoice and probable ohfackk and jodi. Again these names with nothing on them are coming fast and furious. dcool has gone his own way, so to speak, which bodes well for him but he's a nasty little bugger.

Did Ink say you were like an 8 year old? In what debate?

Kuul...I think you should familiarize yourself with some of Pgy's debate answers before being critical in public on this. He & I are allies, lol, and once in a while we taunt each other! His language is absolutely vile and he can be so pig (pyg) headed without answering the debate question. Just take a look...and then decide. He's almost as evasive as Joe but with a foul mouth to boot...and I mean in general, not specifically! He's a hoot. Ink is also my ally in a way! Surprised? He's a long winded fellow but sometimes he makes good points. He's just hard to read at times. Chris

dude im not repubgal for 1 im a dude 2 i live in nc 3 i have no idea who she is a a person 4 well... she just int me

Oh, and as to repubgal and her aliases...there is no way I will EVER trust or befriend her. It's up to the site to take care of it since she's been exposed. I'm not unhappy Jonathan...not at all. I'm going about my business and creating what I can as to debates. I'm also awaiting their remedy to this awful situation. She wants no peace settlement. She wants to continue what she's doing. She's still writing under the other name, Opinionated. She has no guilt and no remorse. She should leave this site and never return. That's just my opinion sweetie pie, it doesn't have to be yours!

Will you stop being so apologetic please!!! Which remarks are offensive.....because I don't know what you're referring to. Was it what I said to Pyg?

haha yes. True. I hope the admins can get this settled though. People don't trust the quality of my debates now. sigh. I suppose we shall see! =] thanks

Check out what she says to me on my profile and her own. She lies, she lies, she lies again and again. Jonathan, please explain your remark to me on the debate we wrote on last night...I'm still waiting for your answer there.

Ohhhh yes!

I usually don't play the for me or against me thing, but I expect there to be trust. I'm not referring to you there, just in general. The thing is I don't know HOW to prove my innocence. This looks glum for me. I only own one computer, an acer laptop, so everyone is welcome to check our IP addresses. Let's see...Email addresses? What else? I am up for anything. I REFUSE to stop until my innocence is proven. Opinionated is, and never will be, me. If you don't want to believe me. Ok. I suppose I understand, but you are wrong. Something is wrong here. There either has been a hack, or there honestly is an error within the CD site. What to do? If you have any suggestions I will gladly take them. I won't stand for these accusations, kuul. I will not! It is WRONG!

Yes, I have. I live in the cheese state, so there isn't much of a league here. I am in college and we have our own little debate club thing. It is really fun but not set up well. so we dont really debate that much. Besides everyone in the club (except me) wants to become teachers, teachers don't really need to debate I guess? :D

Haha yeah. Just like I'd never seen repubgal before this.

FYI I've removed dcool, opinionated, and repubgal from my allies. The missigning of her name convinced me. I didn't do this because I want to make you happy or something. It's that I've finally found actual solid proof beyond just writing styles and ally connections. Thanks for showing me that.

- Jonathan

I just saw this comment. Those people are not me. I honestly thought you could see that. I am sorry, you are mislead. I truly hope that the truth comes out soon. This is ruining everything. I don't know what I can do to show everyone on here that I am not them...They are not me.... I don't understand.

haha..Thank you!!!! I appreciate it! Yea, you are right. The whole name-calling through me for a loop, but it isn't bothering me. Again, thank you for being neutral. =]

PS....you cannot remain neutral and remain true to yourself and therefore anyone else!

I have no idea who that is and do not think I've ever debated with her.

I'm referring to the debate I put up about repubgal! She used the name opinionated and signed it heather. Look at the other names too....no action on the accounts. What do you think I'm talking about here....tea cups? Go look and read it ALL. Then you'll know what and whom to believe. You were involved because you involved yourself! Your not stuck in anything. I'm not only trying to save my ass but everyone elses too by drawing the utmost attention to it.

"She slipped up with opinionated"...what exactly are you referring to? I haven't been paying much attention to this; where/when was the slipup? (link please!) Come to think of it, I think I have seen joecavalry mention it somewhere..I can't remember where. :\

I'll admit I have no excuse. Being stuck in the situation I am, the right thing to do (considering that I want to remain neutral..) would be to unfriend you and repubgal and refrain from talking to either of you. But I really don't want to do that. Please...I'm not trying to play any of you. Don't make it so hard for me. :'(

I'm not playing either end. I'm the hapless guy in the middle, not wanting to get involved yet having both sides alternatively embrace then reject me. It's getting really depressing. It seems that remaining neutral causes everyone to hate me. And what you said about her deserving it...I know the old saying, "an eye for an eye." Yet I believe that the best, most honorable thing to do is to try to "turn the other cheek." Sometimes you need to retaliate, but I feel that it's unnecessary in this case. Take Obama: the thing that makes me admire him is how he takes all the lies McCain/Palin tell and doesn't do anything back. He'd be justified in retaliating, yet he gains respect from checking himself. And no, I never suspected anyone besides all the people you named for bringing you down; I was referring to the person who brought me down..if you really want to know who I suspect, then just take a look at my profile - she's the only 'hostile' I have. :\

OK Kuul...I see you're playing both ends against the middle here. You'll get no more info from me. She's proven over and over again she's the guilty party but you either cannot read what's there or like to play games. Don't credit her with what CD is doing. Credit me...I've forced their hand and it will be best for everyone....even you. You don't like what I wrote to her...well that's too bad....she deserved that and worse. And if you suspect someone else of bringing me down, you might have said something. She has at least four more aliases on here and she slipped up with opinonated...she's an idiot. What's your excuse?

Hello,

my name is Heather. I have no aliases. Please, I beg you, don't be be sucked in by these lies! I am sorry, I didn't want to have to contact everyone, but this is out of control! I can't believe I am being accused of such...

they not I....geeze I think I've gone insane with all this

Yes, I knew I had done that but I don't know what the timeout is...yet. I'll let you know when I find out and vice versa if I can't.

Yes, I know. Listen, watch these names, they are al repubgal. Opinionated, crazyvoice and ohfackk so far. Just beware. If you'd be so kind, I'd like to add you again...Thanks for this note you sweet thing!

The IP idea is a good one but we never figured in the fact that she may multiple computers like a desk top and lap top and more with different servers and ip's. I brought it up last night. I just don't want anyone else hurt by them. We'll see an end to this soon my little friend. I know you're also young but that had NEVER disturbed me. I have had many young friends here and always appreciate the way they have carried themselves and spoken to people. Not to worry...we'll always be together on any debate whether we agree or not. That's the way it should be. Chris

The other that is absolute is crazyvoice. We thought Dcool15 and the boss may have been in on the down voting but I don't know about the boss. All I know is that dcool15 has said things to me that I could never say about another human being unless I was out of my mind. You can read them...they're all on his profile. I hope you know I have nothing against you kuul...I never did. You've always shown me the utmost respect in and out of debate.

lol i like that one

ya i know it jumped from like 80 something to 35% one day when i got on idk it sucks lol

Kuul...You say you don't want to get involved in the "bickering." This is NOT bickering...it's a problem that concerns everyone here at CD. I'm sorry you don't or won't see that. You now have two of repubgirl's aliases as allies. Crazyvoice is another as I posted on the debate and God knows how many others. dcool15 is also one of your allies. Because of that and because of your unwillingness to stand with me on this after all the proof that's been offered, I cannot say yes to being an ally at this moment. This mess will be straightened out in due time by CD. Good luck in your debates kuul.

Alrighty. To all those involved in the bickering between Klukapolitan and repubgal/opinionated/whoever: I don't want to get involved. I'm not for either side; I really don't know enough to say anything. Please don't drag me into anything. Thanks. =]

I appreciate that. Thank you. I do enjoy a debate, not a fight though. :D

I KNOW! This is crazy! I added her, next day I AM HER! I tell you what, some people on here have WAY too much time on their hands! I mean one person even said I must be her because of all my ????? marks. HOW WEIRD! I don't know much about her, but she seems to be the Benedict Arnold of this site. The closest I am to being her is empathy!!!!!!!!! Oh no! She doesn't use !!!!!! marks too I hope! Maybe they will trace my IP. Sad, but in this case seems necessary!

LOL! Maybe?? I couldn't think of any username..That's I didn't go with 'creative' hehehe.

You should probably watch out for me though. You never know about shifty ones like me. LOL, na I'm just occassionally outrageous. :P

Well, I was just getting it from you user name.. :D

O.o Is that a warning? I guess I should keep an eye on you. ;)

Oh yea, you could say that! HAHA!

Usually, I don't try to anger people...You just never know though! LOL

Yea, I am a spontaneous, unusually friendly person! =]

Hi!!!!

I'm Jayme..

New here!

Just thought I'd say hey...

No worries, I love answering questions (when I find the time). There are 4 developers behind CD and a few other people that help out with other stuff.

That's a good question. Really, though, this code is still a dev release because it is constantly being tinkered on. One day we'll take off that tag!

Scheduling a Town Hall, join us.

Yes...on CD & My Space ;-)

Sorry Kuul...I don't do Facebook at all!

I like the way you set up that Facebook debate with all of the pre-made arguments. It was fun to think about each feature and then vote.

You know, that is a good point. The capability is there so its something we might have to roll out based on the exact kind of problem that you are facing. I'll bring it up with some other folks later today.

Hey Waaykuul,

Man, that sucks. I'm going to take a look to make sure our User Agreement wasn't violated. A ton of new users signed up for the site today so we're dealing with some growing pains. I'll let you know if I discover anything of note. Thanks for the head's up.