100 shootings in Chicago over the fourth, & the only answer Dems have is more gun control.
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The authorities know that other than a bloody and prolonged full scale civil war the only strategy they can employ in this seemingly endless gun crime crisis, which is generated largely by the black community, is one of containment. Violence is a congenital characteristic of the black man's psyche' and given the right circumstances, i.e., self imposed poverty and drug related gang warfare, there will be no stopping the death toll. Arguing that stricter gun control laws will reduce the carnage on our streets is idealistic nonsense. Has the criminalization of drugs stopped their use? The other feature which is not understood by most decent and reasonable people is that the perpetrators of these deadly crimes regard them as a way of life and are bewildered by those who don't share the same ''death wish''. Containment is the only strategy which will keep this epidemic under some degree of control and permit the average law abiding citizen to go about their everyday business in relative safety. 1
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This is not a race problem, it is a moral problem. You blame Black people for the gangs when in fact we have white gangs as well. Sixty years ago there were no Black gangs running amuck in our cities. The Black family was much stronger even during slavery. They had a strong Christian family structure. There is one common theme with most gang members. The people joining these gangs lacked a loving family with a mother and father teaching them life lessons. It's not the color of a person's skin that creates violence, it's the lack of a loving familiy! The facts are that roughly 72% of Black chldren have no father at home. THIS IS THE PROBLEM!!!!!! This is one of biggest reasons why there is so much more Black crime. Whilst I respect your opinion and recognize the importance of an ordered and loving family unit based on Christian values there is no denying that blacks represent the vast majority on deadly and violent in the United States. This self evident truth is mirrored in London, U.K, where blacks represent 10% of the population but account for 90% of all violent crime and nigh on 100% of murders. The ''leakage'' from Christianity and the undoubted good it did for society, is quite equal between whites and blacks yet it is the blacks who are responsible for upwards of 90% of violent crimes. Living in self denial and lacking the moral fibre to recognize and state where the problem lies does no body any favours. A problem cannot be addressed never mind redressed if we all sit on our hands being frightened of being labeled a 'RACIST'' ( gasps of horror and hand wringing) and pretend that we don't notice the main culprits of this epidemic of slaughter on the streets of our towns and cities. BELIEVE ME, if the statistics were in reverse and whites were responsible for 90% of violent crimes, including murders the loonie left and the P.C. brigade would be SHOUTING THE FIGURES FROM THE ROOFTOPS. Sometimes it is sinful to turn the other cheek and feel too self righteous to apportion blame where it is due. The Progressives will never address the issue of gun violence in Chicago and they never will because of Barack Obama. INDIANAPOLIS — President Barack Obama suggested that Indiana and other states with few gun restrictions are to blame for Chicago’s homicide problem. “There are those who criticize any gun safety reforms by pointing to my hometown as an example,” Obama said. “The problem with that argument, as the Chicago Police Department will tell you, is that 60% of guns recovered in crimes come from out of state. You’ve just got to hop across the border.” There you have it from the Boy King's Mouth ! 1
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Mint i don't nor will i ever understand the mindset of the Left about this pipe dream that stricter gun laws will work. All the guns in America could be ceased but do you believe for one minute that a criminal is not going to be able to get his or her hand on a gun ? Sorry it's just pure nonsense. 1
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God, Americans are just so stupid when it comes to discussing guns. Imagine the stupidity of saying gun control doesn't work because, during WW2, we banned guns in Berlin and "surprisingly" people still got shot. That's pretty much the argument these idiots use for Chicago. Oh sure, everyone is America is packing a firearm, but if we isolate probably the worst city for crime in the entire country and then say they can't have guns when every other American citizen can then they are really going to listen to us. Especially when we take pretty much no action to enforce the ban. You indoctrinate the entire country into a spectacularly neurotic ideology where the only solution to gun violence is more guns, and then wonder why nobody in Chicago is paying any attention to a gun ban. Are you even serious with this? When we banned handguns in England, we didn't just ban them in Manchester. We banned them across the entire country and then slapped a mandatory five year prison sentence onto anybody caught with one. You are witnessing a half-arsed result in Chicago because you've implemented a half-arsed law and it's as simple as that. Listening to Americans talk about guns is just literally shocking. It's almost as bad as listening to them talk about global warming. They genuinely seem to believe that the massive problem with gun violence in America has nothing to do with guns. That in fact, guns are the solution to gun violence in America, and controlling or banning guns will lead to more gun violence not less. You simply can't argue with stupidity like that. It's impossible. If someone is unwilling to accept the basic law of reason it makes debate a dead end. When you move to Britain and live under our gun control laws, I might actually debate this with you. The USA has a massive gun culture which has unfortunately become so extreme that nothing anyone does is going to save it. Because of your "right to bear arms", you've accepted the right to have your children shot. You've accepted the right to have terrorist shooters. You've accepted the right to be shot by police. But such is the bloodthirsty nature of a country that's been in a state of almost constant war since it was founded. In the meantime, we'll sit back in our much safer country, sip tea, and sigh. 1
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You are proving to be as mind numbingly stupid as most Liberal I have debated. Don't allow facts to get in the way of your total stupidity. Sixty yers ago, America had just as many guns with FAR LESS restrictions and guess what? We had far less gang violence. THIS PROVES IT IS NOT THE GUN! It's our culture and the lack of parents teaching our children moral values and the values of hard work. It's the Liberal movement of separating God and those values from our public. It's so obvious yet fool Progressives act as if they don't get it. Newsflash, were it not for America, your nation would have long ago been taken over by Communists. Britain has one of the most controlling blood thirsty pasts of any nation. You are proving to be as mind numbingly stupid as most Liberal I have debated. And you're proving to be as overly emotional as most conservatives I've debated. It's our culture So you're agreeing with me. It's the Liberal movement of separating God and those values from our public. It's so obvious yet fool Progressives act as if they don't get it. I'd forgotten that secular places like Europe have big gun problems. Wait, they don't? But obviously they must, because they don't have God over there... Newsflash, were it not for America, your nation would have long ago been taken over by Communists. No, you stepped in right at the end of the war and only when your own country was threatened. Why didn't you save Eastern Europe from the communists? I think you're deluded. In October, 1944, Churchill and Foreign Minister Anthony Eden met in Moscow with Stalin and his foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov. They discussed who would control what in the rest of postwar Eastern Europe. The Americans were not present, were not given shares, and were not fully informed. After lengthy bargaining the two sides settled on a long-term plan for the division of the region, The plan was to give 90% of the influence in Greece to Britain and 90% in Romania to Russia. Russia gained an 80%/20% division in Bulgaria and Hungary. There was a 50/50 division in Yugoslavia, and no Russian share in Italy. Britain has one of the most controlling blood thirsty pasts of any nation. I'm not denying that we have a controlling and bloodthirsty PAST. But we've moved with the times, more or less. The USA is still going to war at every opportunity. If you genuinely believe what you've typed then either you're a simpleton or you don't live in the U.K. I could quote you statistics showing the rise in violent crime, committed mainly by blacks, in England and Wales but for your own safety you'd be better to smell what it is you're shovelling and do your own research. You seem to have had some difficulty in understanding what I'm saying. The UK doesn't have a gun culture. I'm not pretending we're perfect and we have a lot of crime in the inner cities. But most of it is knife crime. Have you ever tried going on a killing spree with a knife? It's nowhere near as easy as killing with a gun; if the person with the knife doesn't really know what they're doing, or the person being attacked knows some basic self defence, the fatality rate from someone coming straight at you with a knife is lower than the fatality rate from someone coming straight at you with a gun. The police are also very well trained to deal with knife crime without resorting to guns. In fact using the American tactic of pulling your gun on someone with a knife is actually not as safe or effective as grabbing the arm of the person with the knife. This is because when you move to pull your gun, your guard is let down. US police are the ones being trained in nonviolence by British police, not the other way around. We haven't had a school shooting since Dunblaine more than 20 years ago. We've had a couple of stabbings in schools but it was almost always one victim and never a massacre. If you don't go into the inner cities then you're very unlikely to be the victim of knife crime. If you carry a knife with no good reason, and the police stop and search you, you can be arrested. I personally know a guy who carried a knife around with him and he got community service. Our children also get taught that those who carry knives themselves are the ones that are most likely to get stabbed. American children get taught that you need to carry a gun if you don't want to get shot. "Because of your "right to bear arms", you've accepted the right to have your children shot. You've accepted the right to have terrorist shooters. You've accepted the right to be shot by police." You are a little bit unhinged there Cat ? https://www.theguardian.com/uk- "In the meantime, we'll sit back in our much safer country, sip tea, and sigh" Looks as if The Guardian is proving you are null and void of facts which is not surprising for a Leftist. 0
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Now get ready to hear about supposed atrosities from Christians thousands of years ago. To demonize Christians they must try to find something from the past that some person did in the name of God, and then paint Christians today as being the same. Or they will take some verse from Old testament Jewish law out of context to judge Christians. It's truly sad the biggoted hate from the Left towards Bible believing Christians. 1
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To demonize Christians they must try to find something from the past that some person did in the name of God, and then paint Christians today as being the same. There are Christian militias today in parts of Sub-Saharan Africa which are hunting down Muslims and burning them at the stake as witches. If Christian ideology was fucking crazy in the 14th century then it is still going to be fucking crazy in the 21st century because it is exactly the same religion. The teachings of Christianity have not changed. Western civilisation has generally become more civilised over the last few hundred years, and Western Christians wrongly attribute this to Christianity somehow being a "nicer" religion. 1
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