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Of the two, Hillary for sure, not only that we need a womens prospective in office, I'm about progression.
We failed in so many ways with men in office, I say lets take 4 years out of our American lives to see what a women can do, and if we approve lets give her 4 more years, I am done voting in rich white men to office, what I really want is a broke Atheist Lesbian Mexican American Women for president, we are Americans, we are about change, evolution, we are not Europe with "GOD SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING CUNT QUEEN bullshit" fuck that we are Americans, we set the standards of what it means to be free humans, remember that next time you Republicans try to stop gays, you are not being American.
Of the two, Hillary for sure, not only that we need a womens prospective in office, I'm about progression.
Woman's prospective? First of all, I think you mean perspective. Second, what makes a woman's perspective better than a man's?
I would argue that if one was to evaluate candidates based on gender alone, a female would be the least logical choice because they tend to act on emotion more often than males, they tend to have weaker mental and physical stamina than men, and are more prone to wavering with regards to decisions.
We failed in so many ways with men in office, I say lets take 4 years out of our American lives to see what a women can do, and if we approve lets give her 4 more years
What causes you to infer that sex is the underlying issue with American's problems?
what I really want is a broke Atheist Lesbian Mexican American Women for president
Well, that's irrational...
we are about change, evolution, we are not Europe with "GOD SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING CUNT QUEEN bullshit" fuck that we are Americans, we set the standards of what it means to be free humans, remember that next time you Republicans try to stop gays, you are not being American.
Aaaand this is where your argument really started to deteriorate. This literally takes away most of the validity of your first remarks.
I'm a humanist but I live by pure American standards, I truly believe we set the standards of what it means to be truly free, my dream is one day the world will live as one, "John Lennon"
Except electing a woman president solely for the sake of a woman president is dumb as all hell. What should be focused on for quality of electionship isn't sex, age, race, or other relatively pointless qualities for such a position. Rather, what should be focused on is if they'll bring any legitimately good ideas to the table, and other similar things.
Lol fuck if I know, one of them bitches that thinks shes better then everyone else because her family killed to get on top, I could care less, my point is we are better then that.
Americans have Royalty, it's called celebrities, and they suck the same way, fuck them they are no better you and I is my point.
Also lets not forget John Lennon was from the UK and he understood the American dream, to be freedom, no one above or below you, we are all equal, John Lennon would say Fuck the Queen or Fuck if I know who the Queen as I said, because they mean nothing to us freemen.
Believe me when I tell you this, I love you brother, we are one, you might not agree but I know this to be true, we have to look out for each other and fight for humanity if not the rich and powerful will keep us slaves.
I was fuckin with you dude, I assumed you meant the UK and not all of Europe, it was just the way your argument sounded it brought out the juvenile in me!! I agree with a lot of what you say, I believe in freedom and equality to paraphrase a more learned dude than me "a man should be judged by his deeds", that's one of the reasons I don't follow the cult of celebrity, there are some I like and am interested in but that is because they have something to say or are doing something job wise that I'm interested in otherwise fuck it I don't give a toss whose wearing what on the red carpet. That's why I don't have a problem with celebrities or the queen because I am a freer person than them I can pop down to the shop in my dressing gown to get a pint of milk if I want and won't get hassled by the paparazzi what's the point in being rich if you cannot enjoy it.
Now I don't want this to get into a my country is better than yours thing but I don't think the USA is any freer than the UK and I don't think one is better than the other its just the freedoms each country has are different. The thing we have to be careful wary of though is the fact that the freedoms we do have are being slowly eroded by our governments.
lol it's cool bro, like I said I am about people, we the people, no matter the borders or country, we are all one, I am equal to you, I will ride and die for my bothers, I am the type of person that will give my last Dollar/Euro to help my fellow man and I will do the same for you, hell if you ever want to come to America, hit me up, you have a place to stay, I'll show you first hand how crazy some Americans are lol, we would have a good laugh : )
P.S. don't fall for the hype, Americans are free as fuck, maybe to free, to many guns, drugs, whores, you name it, so long as we pay our taxes we can pretty much do anything, even murder, yes killing, money is our freedom here in America, if you have it you are free as a bird, example OJ lol
Where about in America do you live I'm coming out to Florida in December. I've been out a few times before and always enjoyed myself done a coupla road trips which was cool, got to meet people and see the real America instead of just the tourist stuff, this time round is a family trip though.
John Lennon wouldn't be happy about a woman being in office. He was pretty damn sexist. He abused and degraded women. Yoko was always around because he kept her on a leash, so to speak. If he had to go to the bathroom, then he made sure she was with him. He never let her out of his sight. He was a hypocrite. He preached freedom, but ruled as a dictator over the women in his life.
Lennon probably would be happy with a woman president despite what he did in his personal life. Personally he was a dick but what he preached what great and he wrote damn good songs and really that's all that mattered.
So, you only want Hillary because it's the "cool" and "new" thing to do. Ha, typical democrat. I guess everyone's forgotten about her involvement with Benghazi, but hey, what does that matter? As long as gays can marry and we can smoke all the pot we want! WOOP WOOP! -_-
No. A women has equal chance of being as good a president as a man. We shouldn't pick a woman president, we should pick the best candidate, whether it is a woman or a man.
That said, I think we've had just enough of the Bushes for a while.
There was a study done showing that a womens brain patterns are much different then a mans, this study shows that a women tends to be way more reasonable and logical then a man, if this study holds true then a women should make a better president then a man.
Aren't brain patterns formed primarily by experience, rather than by genetics? Cultural differences in how boys and girls are raised would account for the differences there, if there truly are any meaningful differences tied to gender at all.
I expect that, as an extension of that, a female politician is going to have far more in common than male politicians than with female non-politicians. Barack Obama certainly seems to have far more in common with white politicians than he does with black non-politicians.
Oh, sure. It's quite evident that male brains and female brains tend to be significantly different.
Where I'm dubious is in the why, and whether or not it's an absolute. How sure are we that it is a fundamental difference between the sexes? Given what we know about how the brain develops, forms new connections, and culls less-used ones, I consider it far more likely that a significant portion of the differences has a lot more to do with nurture than nature. The varying 'strengths' of the brains compared in your video seem to line up almost perfectly with what would be expected based on the typical ways male and female children are raised in the US.
Are there studies comparing the structure of a female brain between societies where female ideals are significantly different? Say, the structure of a Chinese woman vs. the structure of an American woman?
If I'm right, then the type of woman who is prone to seek a career in politics isn't likely to be significantly different from her male peers..
Don't you guys think it would be cool to have another Clinton in office? That would be kick ass! Besides she was the brains of Bill. Now Jeb, LOL we don't need another Bush in office do we?
Neither, weve had both Bushes and 1 clinton in office before, and look how that turned out.... As for me, Im most likely gonna hold put for a third party candidate, most likely either in the Green or Libertarian Party.
Two Bush President's and one Bush Governor. They're pretty popular. W.Bush did kind of suck. I like Jeb though.
One Clinton president was one Clinton too many.
I think Obama stole his election. There was a 115% voter turn out somewhere in Ohio and another one in Florida. From what I remember, Obama won both unanimously.
I think Obama stole his election. There was a 115% voter turn out somewhere in Ohio and another one in Florida. From what I remember, Obama won both unanimously.
Obama won the election fair and square the exit poll numbers and the final tallies were identical, therefore there is no evidence for fraud or tampering.
How about this... you list reasons why you think Clinton was a good President, and I'll see if I can counter them.
Just like I said about Hillary, I don't like the guy.
Obama won the election fair and square the exit poll numbers ans final tallies were identical, therefore there is no evidence for fraud or tampering.
Eh, maybe. But he won unanimously in 59 voting districts in Philadelphia. How did Romney get zero votes? 19,605 to 0 was the final tally. That just seems fishy to me.
I think he definitely would have lost in 2012 if the white voter turnout percentage were higher than the black percentage. Don't mean to sound racist, but it's true.
You list reasons why you think Clinton was a good president
He presided over the largest economic expansion in US history.
He lowered the amount of Americans on welfare in 35 years.
I think he definitely would have lost in 2012 if the voter turnout percentage were higher than the black percentage.
I actually thought you were talking about the 2008 election earlier which I know for a fact he won fair and square!
I heard about a little voter fraud in 2012 but I don't think it was enough to change the outcome of a state and thus the electoral college!
Second of all if the black voters were reduced I still think the president would win because you forget about coastal white liberal voters, Latinos, Secularist's, Women, Union workers,young voters,Gays etc. So Romney still would not have a chance!
How did Romney get 0 votes in Philadelphia, the final tally was 19,605 to 0
Maybe Philadelphians didn't fucking like Mitt Romney LOL!
He presided over the largest economic expansion in US history.
He had little to do with that. The economy was already growing when he became President. Congress was Republican-controlled, they helped improve the economy with fiscal restraint. Clinton made decisions during his presidency that were responsible for the bad lending and Wall Street scams that led to the 2007 financial crisis.
He lowered the amount of Americans on welfare in 35 years.
Yeah, that was like his main accomplishment though.
I actually thought you were talking about the 2008 election earlier which I know for a fact he won fair and square!
No, I was talking about 2012. I should have been more specific. I think he won 2008 fairly, but 2012... I'm not so sure about.
I heard about a little voter fraud in 2012 but I don't think it was enough to change the outcome of a state and thus the electoral college!
If he was confident that he was going to win, then why commit voter fraud? I was shocked when he won, because everyone I know couldn't stand him... and still can't! They aren't all Conservative either.
Second of all if the black voters were reduced I still think the president would win because you forget about coastal white liberal voters, Latinos, Secularist's, Women, Union workers,young voters,Gays etc. So Romney still would not have a chance!
Maybe. I think so many whites didn't vote because our candidates were so shitty.
Maybe Philadelphians didn't fucking like Mitt Romney LOL!
That's a possibility... but seems kind of unlikely that every Philadelphian was anti-Romney.
Clinton had made decisions during his presidency that were responsible for the bad lending and Wall Street scam that led to the 2008 financial crisis.
Let me guess you don't think Bush had anything to do with that. The financial crisis literally happened 15 years after Clinton was inaugurated, I don't think he was mainly responsible.
I was shocked when he won, because everyone I know couldn't stand him and still can't! They aren't all Conservative either.
People hated Mitt Romney even more though his fan base was limited to conservative white people as I expected, the presidents fan base was more diverse thus he had a better chance at victory.
Let me guess you don't think Bush had anything to do with that. The financial crisis literally happened 15 years after Clinton was inaugurated, I don't think he was mainly responsible.
Bush isn't exempt in my mind. He made some shitty decisions, but the economy is not just totally random. Decisions made in the past may sometimes show their effects years later.
People hated Mitt Romney even more though his fan base was limited to conservative white people as I expected, the presidents fan base was more diverse thus he had a better chance at victory.
That's the thing though, Obama is terrible... I figured people would be willing to try out Romney for at least one term lol.
Decisions made in the past may sometimes show their effects years later.
You are right about that however the fact that the financial collapse happened 15 years after Clinton convinces me that Bush had to be PRIMARILY responsible!
Obama is terrible, I figured people would be willing to try out Romney for at least one term
Well they didn't LOL!
And again the president isn't as bad as people make him out to be, remember 3 million people without healthcare would be covered by the affordable health care act. The dream act allows more immigrants to be educated, the president ended "Don't Ask Don't Tell" for Christ sake! Not to mention he brought up universal preschool in his state of the union address that sounds like something good for the future.
You are right about that however the fact that the financial collapse happened 15 years after Clinton convinces me that Bush had to be PRIMARILY responsible!
Clinton's decisions led to it... it was Bush's job to handle it.
And again the president isn't as bad as people make him out to be, remember 3 million people without healthcare would be covered by the affordable health care act. The dream act allows more immigrants to be educated, the president ended "Don't Ask Don't Tell" for Christ sake! Not to mention he brought up universal preschool in his state of the union address that sounds like something good for the future.
Do you not remember the debate you and I had regarding Obama? You said I won lol! I proved to you how Obamacare is shit and how the DREAM act is shit, remember? Okay, so the President ended "Don't ask, Don't tell". Whoopty dee doo! You do know that Clinton was the one who created it, right?
I can argue about Obama's record and prove to you, once again, why he is the shittiest president we have had in a very long time... but it may save some time if you just go back and read our past debate.
Do you not remember the debate you and I had regarding Obamacare? You said I won
And now I am starting a new debate this time PRIMARILY about Obamacare, but this time lets make it a mini debate because we already talked enough about Clinton and Obama's to elections I don't think I can take an extra full debate.
Lol it's not a handout. They'll still have to pay. What if they don't want to pay for health insurance? They could get health insurance now that will be cheaper than Obamacare.
Here's some of mine:
-It introduces at least twenty new taxes that total at $500 Billion.
-Many doctors will no longer be able to see Medicare patients.
-Family policy has risen $2,200 under Obama, when he promised to cut it by $2,500. Healthcare will cost more.
-It will lead to a "doctor-shortage" do to government control over their decisions. Nearly half of all doctors have said they may quit if Obamacare goes into effect.
-It will cost around $2 Trillion, leading to an even larger deficit.
I still need to respond to your other Obama debate. The post you just responded to isn't very important either. I doubt I could find much to prove otherwise.
I couldn't really support Bush or Clinton... But this man could probably Sideline and make hey of either one of them. Heck, he already has the political runaround double-speak mastered and knows at least as much about the United States as the other dope. The kind of guy you hey to love:))
Though I would love to see a woman in office, I would hate to see that woman be Hillary. I have a feeling she would just pave the way for no woman to ever get elected again. I don't like her policies, I don't like her lies, and I don't like her lack of values. We need a Republican in office again, or else America will die.
