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The crystal clear proof that you are insane can be found in the fact that you seemingly believe anybody but you is going to take the reporting of a fringe website called "Buzzsprout" seriously.
It can furthermore be found in the fact that you earlier claimed Muslims "overwhelmingly" vote for the left wing party in the United States, yet your title suggests you seem to believe Islam is a far right political theory rather than a politically neutral religion which outdates the invention of the modern political spectrum by many hundreds of years.
The sum of the matter is that you are absolutely barking mad. You are mentally unwell and obsessively dishonest.
The crystal clear proof that you are insane can be found in the fact that you seemingly believe anybody but you is going to take the reporting of a fringe website called "Buzzsprout" seriously.
Yet you being the two faced hog you are posted an article about the Holocaust from the barking mad heretical press which is run by a vile piece of filth ......
Simon Guy Sheppard (born 1957) is a British extremist from Hull, England, who runs a number of websites promoting his far right, sexist, and racist doctrines; his main website contains many articles about women, the multiracial society and Jews, stating that these have negative effects upon western society and for white males in particular
You’re some fucking hypocrite and a compulsive liar , no wonder you’re mocked by all on C D
After the arson attack on the Kassel mosque: letter of demand from Antifa – Kassel
Following the arson attack on a mosque in Kassel, a confessional letter of alleged leftist extremists has appeared on the Internet. "We examined in the investigation," said a spokesman for the VIP news of the Kassel police.
It is not yet clear if the authors threw three incendiary phrases on the night of March 25 at the Turkish cultural center with prayer halls [19659003] The alleged confessional letter was posted on a scene portal. It is signed with "Antifa International". The reason given is that the cultural center is a "meeting place for the Turkish fascists".
The sum of the matter is that you are absolutely barking mad. You are mentally unwell and obsessively dishonest.
Oh good. Take Islam out of the equation.
A family covers its women, is anti lgbtq, is extremely religious, sees alcohol as a sin, is anti porn, only eats food that is prayed over, won't eat pork, considers men superior to women and the head of the house. Are they liberal ideologically or far right? I'll wait.
Stop attacking Nom with your strawman bullshit. I have only ever seen him point out that christianity is no better than Islam, not praise or defend Islam. We already know what you're gunna say "Islam is far right but you libtard lefties defend it while attacking conservative christians".
It's time you realized that we are not Democrats who you can conflate with stupid American right wing stereotypes about the American left. We are socialists and Nom isn't even from America. Both christianity and Islam suck because they are barbaric superstitious drivel so suck my mother fucking dick and die.
I'm too far up on the liberal totem poll of oppression and too brown for you to disagree with me. Cultural Marxism at its finest. Whites have no voice in Marxism. Sorry. Gotta call rank on you.
You're an uneducated toddler with the attention span of a gold fish and with less of an ability to think seriously and critically than Adam Sandler on shrooms. Do you think cracking jokes somehow makes your incorrectness disappear? Maybe you could learn something if you stopped automatically dismissing anything that comes from a leftist and spewing the same tired talking points which have 0 relevance to the person you're talking to.
Bronto posted a story from a site. Nom attacked the cred of the site as evidence that Bronto is wrong. Bronto posted more stories from different sites of the same event so as to establish credibility that the event occurred. That’s hardly dismissive of the leftist who did little more than attack the source of the information.
Nom’s point that Islam was created before the modern political spectrum doesn’t negate an analysis of modern Islam in the context of the modern political spectrum.
Yeah but you're racist and sexist and Islamaphobic and transphobic and homophobic and sciencephobic though cause' you're right wing.
This is what Bronto is basically doing to me right now, do you not see? He is dismissing what I say and responding to a retarded stereotype that right wing propaganda has built in his head.
True, he responded with complete bullshit. But could snider what he was responding to:
“You're an uneducated toddler with the attention span of a gold fish and with less of an ability to think seriously and critically than Adam Sandler on shrooms.”
EDIT: My bad. Got the order of the post switched. Disregard
Yes, you told me to disregard what you said because what you said was something you said just to mindlessly attack me without even stopping to consider if your point added up with reality. Only afterwords did you realize that what you said was such bullshit that even a massively dishonest cerebral insufficient such as yourself would be forced to take it back.
I never claimed to believe in white privilege fucktard. You are proving my point that you are a mindless parrot spewing worthless talking points from the anus of bullshit. You don't know what Marxism is because you have never read Marx, you only repeat what Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro say and think you're intelligent.
Marx’s class analysis (and perception of class struggle) has long been utilized by sociologists and applied to far more categories and classes than Marx ever did originally. It’s still Marxism.
When you say that Islam and Christianity equally suck, one might look at the historical record and agree. But if you consider the world we currently live in, saying both are equal is a clear slam on Christianity and a clear benefit to Islam.
It's not that christianity itself is currently less harmful than Islam, it's the fact that it has been declawed by the rise of secularism in the west whereas the Islamic world is still largely fundamentalist. The religion itself is still just as retarded and damaging to the human psyche and when given the chance it still inspires insane and violent cults.
It's not that christianity itself is currently less harmful than Islam, it's the fact that it has been declawed by the rise of secularism in the west whereas the Islamic world is still largely fundamentalist
You’re totally incorrect as usual. Christianity has evolved faster than Islam in adapting to modern life , to reamain as it did say 50 years ago would have spelled its death knell , Islam is evolving at a lot slower pace more geared to the societies it’s mainly based in but evolving it is as failure to do so would also loose it considerable followers .
How you make out secularism is the reason Christianity has being declawed is beyond me
Christianity hasn't evolved you stupid cunt. All the same bullshit is still there, right in the pages of the bible, waiting to inspire the insane delusions of millions of retards. Christianity is no better than it was a thousand years ago, the difference is that
A) The church no longer has the power to kill you for disagreeing with it
B) less people believe in it
and C) Those who do believe in it, don't fully practice it, because christianity has been toned down in our culture by secularism. That's the only reason you don't see gays being stoned in the united states.
Of course it hasn’t because the church is still executing witches , torturing heretics and taking part in crusades isn’t it?
Do you know what the term evolve means you idiotic brute?
So tell me now you drooling idiot how come the Catholic Church which I was part of had a ban on homosexuals , lesbians , unmarried mothers and ruled most catholic countries with a fist of iron and now yield very little power in any impactful way?
Because they have evolved you clown that’s why.
All the same bullshit is still there, right in the pages of the bible, waiting to inspire the insane delusions of millions of retards. Christianity is no better than it was a thousand years ago, the difference is that
A) The church no longer has the power to kill you for disagreeing with it
B) less people believe in it
Off course it’s way better than it was a thousand years ago you fool for the very reasons I quoted .
Those who do believe in it, don't fully practice it, because christianity has been toned down in our culture by secularism.
How did secularism do that?
That's the only reason you don't see gays being stoned in the united states.
Ahh right , so tell me when were gays actually stoned to death in the U S , and there you are agreeing religion has been toned down by secularism which would mean it has ...... evolved 🙀 Oh dear you’ve just beaten your own argument you fool
Yeah, I'm gunna just assume that this shit is retarded like your last 5450 posts and not read it. Thanks for wasting your time though, at least I got to steal some of your life.
Yeah, I'm gunna just assume that this shit is retarded like your last 5450 posts and not read it. Thanks for wasting your time though, at least I got to steal some of your life.
Translation...... AlternativefactEnforcers just had his latest schooling ........next
Yes, Judaism and Christianity both are mostly declawed by western secularism, which arose in no small part from specific interpretations of Christian and Jewish traditions. Secularism is not more than rendering unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.
Islam was once far superior as they had a tradition of reason over faith, but they reversed that and brought about their own dark ages.
In both cases it wasn't the religion that changed, it was the attitude towards it, how much power it held and how radically it was believed. All three of the abrahamic faiths are filth so it is in no way hypocritical for me or Nom to attack christianity. We simply recognise that Islam is not inherently worse and christianity is not the great foundational cornerstone of civilization that Conservatives think it is.
The religion of christianity is no better than it ever was, only our attitude towards it (taking it less seriously and not giving it political authority). It's not the evolution of christianity, but the diminishing of it that makes it less dangerous. It is merely a dormant virus embedded in our culture.
It’s role in modern western civilization wasn’t minor.
Western civilization as we know it arose as people challenged old (christian) value systems and the culture slowly morphed it's perception of christian ideas and values by building new ideas and values on top of them. In other words we outgrew christianity in many ways as a culture and found ways to fit new value systems into a christian context because that was still the dominant religion. If you still don't see this just ask yourself, why was liberty and "God given rights" not a thing for the first 1300 years of christian values? Because Christian values are "worship the magic sky man and stone gays" not "free speech and social liberty".
Religion is not the text of a book. It is the interpretation of text and the preaching of said interpretation. When an attitude toward the text changes, the religion changes. That change may be a departure from earlier interpretations, but it is not a departure from the religion.
If you alter a religion enough it's not the same religion anymore. That isn't even the issue though since the positive changes are all caused by the watering down and ignoring of christianity rather than the reshaping of it. There is nothing inherently good about Christianity, and it has been changed over the years but it has remained nothing but another retarded piece of superstition. It is moving away from christian thought that made the renaissance possible, not reforming it.
The moving away, the secularism, was a Christian idea that accompanied the printing press (and mass consumption of the Bible). This was not to move away from god, but to be closer to god individually. To worship more personally rather than through the intermediary of a church whose language they didn’t even speak. You can call it a happy accident that such a dumb foundation spawned such a good idea, but give the devil his due.
Islam was once interpreted in reasoned light. That was Islam then. It is not Islam now, but that’s not because they moved away from Islam. It evolved.
You really should remain mute on these topics because as usual you’re just making it up as you go along.
Religions evolve as they become better adapted to their social ecology. Religious doctrines adapt to local intellectual requirements, and religious rituals and prohibitions (say, about abortion) adapt to the social needs of the host society.
I can't have been schooled because I didn't read the words contained within your paragraph of adhoms and lies and if I did I am quite confident I would have found nothing intelligent within it.
I can't have been schooled because I didn't read the words contained within your paragraph of adhoms and lies and if I did I am quite confident I would have found nothing intelligent within it
Oh but you did read the lot and reverted to your usual tactic as in burying you pea head in the sand
A family covers its women, is anti lgbtq, is extremely religious, sees alcohol as a sin, is anti porn, only eats food that is prayed over, won't eat pork, considers men superior to women and the head of the house. Are they liberal ideologically or far right? I'll wait.