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Yay Democrats!!! Boo Democrats!!!
Debate Score:22
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Total Votes:22
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A history lesson on the Democrats.

Just in case some  didn't know this.  It is a history lesson on what's what
and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and
card were not to be used for identification purposes.
Since nearly everyone in the
United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the
message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.
       
Our Social Security 
    
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:         
  
1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary,        
No longer Voluntary

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,
Now 7.65%on the first $90,000         
      
3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,
No longer tax deductible        
4.) That the money the participants put into the independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,
Under Johnson the money was moved toThe General Fund and Spent
    
5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Under Clinton & GoreUp to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put away' -- you may be interested in the following:
   
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Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?         
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.         
Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?         
A: The Democratic Party.   
   
 
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US.
       
 
Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
       
AND MY FAVORITE:
A: That's right!

Jimmy Carterand the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!         
       
 
Then, after violating the original contract (FICA),
the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!

PLEASE DO KEEP THIS ONE ROLLING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.  HOPEFULLY IT WILL OPEN A FEW EYES!

Yay Democrats!!!

Side Score: 14
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Boo Democrats!!!

Side Score: 8
2 points

Social security was only one of the many programs put in place by FDR to get america out of the great depression...and they worked. Also you never gave information on the context of these changes or who they were made by, For all we know FDR put these great programs into place that were later altered by Republicans or was a mutual agreement between democrats and republicans. and lets not forget FDR wasnt really a democrat. He sided with them to get himself to the top but he actually ran pretty independently on his own "bull moose" party. Also reguardless of the past we have to look at what both parties have to offer TODAY and its clearly the democrats. I personally think both sides pretty much suck and that this bipartisan shit is killing progress and killing america but if i had to choose id choose the side that didnt shut the government down in a hissy fit and who is comprised of people who dont think noahs ark is a true story and that satan, abortion, and gay marriage are real threats to america....

Side: Yay Democrats!!!
Astac(242) Disputed
1 point

SS was never intended to get us out of the depression, all it is is a tax, you are not promised anything from the ss taxes collected from you

Side: Boo Democrats!!!

both parties work for the same masters you stupid fuck. when it comes to decisions/changes that really matter....they both stick together. 2 sides of the same fucking coin. you fucking idiots need to stop accepting the red/blue gangs and see the true problem within.

Side: Yay Democrats!!!

So...., don't vote libertarian? Who should we vote for ;)

Side: Yay Democrats!!!
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

The Green Party !

Side: Yay Democrats!!!
westernslave(694) Clarified
1 point

you vote with your gun and agree to start/help a revolution aimed at bringing down the whole corrupt house. libertarian, green party, or any other future party will have no chance against the system thats currently running shit

just look at how many real choices we get to pick from each term and all the stipulations there are to be in the runnings. its obviously a fixed game. and if somebody that may actually get in there that may make a difference (like ron paul) you bet your ass they are going to demonize the shit out of him and probably assassinate JFK style if they become a real threat.

Side: Yay Democrats!!!
1 point

Donald Trump just put his name into the game. He is dislike by both sides

Side: Yay Democrats!!!
Astac(242) Disputed
1 point

The Rinos are just like you describe. The Tea party and independents are trying to break this two party stranglehold

Side: Boo Democrats!!!
1 point

I ascribe to no political party. Just wanted to drop this here...

http://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html

I knew the claim in the about immigrants in the OP was bunk because my mother in law is one and she has been paying into social security since the 70's and is not eligible for any of it.

Explanation in the link.

Side: Yay Democrats!!!

Never vote for the Democrats ;)

Side: Boo Democrats!!!
joecavalry(37423) Clarified
2 points

They are a bunch of lying, rat, bastards ;)

Side: Yay Democrats!!!
1 point

you want a piece of ass, not a piece of elephant. ;) ;)

Side: Yay Democrats!!!
2 points

They both suck. This bipartisan political bullshit isn't making any progress. We see a system that isn't working, and we're making no effort to change it. I thought the government was supposed to represent the people, not vice-versa.

Side: Boo Democrats!!!
1 point

And it was the leftist democrats who gave us the KKK. And it was and is the democrats who were the slavers, today they just eslave the blacks to the federal government via becoming dependent on handouts

Side: Boo Democrats!!!
1 point

And it was the leftist democrats who gave us the KKK.

Nice try, but no. The Democratic Party at the time of the KKK was the Conservative party, and the KKK where an extremist, Conservative terrorist group. Stop trying to revise history to fit your partisan narrative.

Side: Yay Democrats!!!