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Abortion is WRONG Abortion is RIGHT
Debate Score:15
Arguments:17
Total Votes:16
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 Abortion is WRONG (3)
 
 Abortion is RIGHT (10)

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A woman's "rights"? or a baby's "life"?

Right to decide?

Or..

Right to live?

Abortion is WRONG

Side Score: 4
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Abortion is RIGHT

Side Score: 11
2 points

https://youtu.be/wYLBAzEzy8I watch this video!! it willl change your views completely!!

Side: Abortion is WRONG
1 point

Video was poor quality but good points were made!! I never thought about it in the aspect that you didn't have to support it or not! Makes sense to at least always have the option available and then you can make the personal decision yourself! saw the tags on Youtube this was an english project! Hope you did good! :-)

Side: Abortion is RIGHT
1 point

At 7-14 weeks of being in their mother's womb, the baby can grasp, squint, frown and even smile. She or he may even be able to suck his or her thumb. Researchers believe these movements correspond to the development or impulses to in the brain.

There are two kinds of abortions; Surgically or chemically. There are several different procedures mostly depending on how far along the pregnancy is.

Within the first 14 weeks they use a vacuum to suck the growing baby from the womb, as if she or he were merely a parasite. If the baby has been chemically murdered, and or induced labor. it will be still born. In this case the abortionists will advise the women to then flush it down the toilet as if it were her own body waste. First they stole a life and then his or hers dignity as well.

Now, this baby had a beating heart, she or he had a developing a sense of touch and control of THEIR body.

At 17 Weeks a baby can move his or her joints, and is developing sweat glands.

At this stage the abortionists use a procedure called Saline. A long needle is inserted into the woman's abdomen, directly into the sac. Fluid is removed and replaced with a strong Saline (salt) solution, the baby begins to suffocate, and the solution burns their outer layer of skin. She or he will struggle for up to 6 hours. 36 hours later, approximately 12 before the induced labor to begin and another 24 hours of labor, at 17 weeks of age, a murdered baby will appear, around 5 inches long.

D&E;surgical procedure, is performed within 17-24 weeks (possibly up to 28).

At 16 weeks the baby's soft cartilage hardens into bone, making him or her far too large and strong to pass through the vacuum. So they start by using their tools to remove the child's limbs, and in because the skull is too large it must be crushed in order to proceed with the vacuum.

They also can chemically remove the baby, by burning his or her insides and the baby will be born dead, or though there have been cases where they have had live births..

THESE ARE BABIES NOT MISTAKES THEY ARE OF THE SAME VALUE AS ANYONE ELSE, AND THEREFORE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS TO LIVE!

Side: Abortion is WRONG
flewk(1193) Disputed
1 point

Now, this baby had a beating heart, she or he had a developing a sense of touch and control of THEIR body.

Parasites also have functioning respiration (not respiratory) systems, tactile sensation, and tactile mobility.

Your distinction of life vs no-life has no relevance to the topic of human life. We destroy micro-organisms by the billions everyday (per individual).

The idea you are looking for is viability. If the fetus cannot survive on its own, then it would be categorized as a parasite. Even after it reaches viability, without the parasitic connection to the mother, preterms will not develop properly. Most pre-terms will suffer from life-long debilitating issues and have lower average life spans.

The idea that all lives are of the same value is a disingenuous one. Some lives are obviously worth more than others in many regards. Personal worth will obviously be subjective, but most people can agree on certain value gradients.

Most people would pay more to be rich than poor.

Most people would pay more to be sighted than sightless.

Most people would pay more to develop normally than be burdened by severe chronic issues.

This issue is a lot more than the single action of aborting a fetus. This is all assuming a deterministic system.

Side: Abortion is RIGHT
daver(1771) Clarified
1 point

Do you really think a baby and a parasite are the same?

What will a parasite become?

What will a baby become?

Side: Abortion is WRONG
flewk(1193) Disputed
1 point

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Side: Abortion is RIGHT
1 point

Well, what's more important? The right to kill others to fix your own mistakes, or the right for you and your descendants to live without being sentenced for someone else's mistakes? But first ask your self this: When has hiding from responsibility ever justified killing your own child and their children after them; because your not just taking their future but the future of several other generations.

Side: Abortion is WRONG
2 points

An important point that is never discussed in these abortion debates is how many people who post on this site in these discussions have been placed in the position of having to decide whether they should or should not have an abortion

Who of us has the right to judge them if they choose or need to have an abortion and who of us has the right to question their decision that is never made lightly and who of us has suffered the grief of having to terminate an unborn.

For those of us who have never been placed in this situation our opinion is simply academic and morally we should extend our compassion and empathy to those who have.

Side: Abortion is RIGHT
flewk(1193) Clarified
1 point

I believe the counter point to this would be that murder is only justified under special circumstances. So, the personal feelings of the parents do not matter if there is no apparent danger to the health of the mother.

For those of us who have never been placed in this situation our opinion is simply academic and morally we should extend our compassion and empathy to those who have.

This would be similar to discussion on rape, murder, or any other event that most people have not experienced. We can objectively qualify the nature of these topics, why not abortion?

Side: Abortion is WRONG
1 point

The issues you name are crimes.

Abortion is not a crime in some jurisdictions but it is in others and there will always be both an objective and a subjective quality to it just as there is a pro-life and pro-choice argument.

This debate is most likely never ending because there are and may well always be two opposing sides that will never agree.

Side: Abortion is RIGHT
1 point

I know you are all gonna jump on me for saying this but here is why I think abortion is right. A baby's life may be valuable, but in the right setting. People who are raped or have an unplanned pregnancy at a young age may not even care for the child later on. And, why are you forcing women to have a child that they do not want. Is it your body to rule? Are you the one who is going to have the child? No, they are. And if they do not want to go through the 9 months of agonizing pain to have a child that they don't even want in the end then don't force them. People need to wake up and realize that some people are not in the condition to support and raise a child, let alone pay for the hospital bills that come along with it. And, if the baby's birth may risk the health of the mother then are you saying they can't abort? You would rather have them die? That is crazy.

Side: Abortion is RIGHT
1 point

If you're against it, then how about we implant a fetus into you and you decide whether of not you want to carry that around for 9 months. And if you're a man and you're arguing on the other side, please just stop talking. You have no right to force someone with a uterus to carry a fetus if you don't even have one.

Side: Abortion is RIGHT

As always abortion is a precautionary measure which the woman can ask for if she feels after proven tests which have shown some genetic disorder in the baby.

Side: Abortion is RIGHT

Regular EEG doesn't occur until 25 weeks. I have no quarrels about killing an insentient creature.

Side: Abortion is RIGHT
1 point

https://youtu.be/wYLBAzEzy8I watch this video!! it willl change your views completely!!

Side: Abortion is RIGHT