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39
Pro-Life Pro-Choice
Debate Score:60
Arguments:35
Total Votes:73
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 Pro-Life (15)
 
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Abortion

We all know what abortion is... if you don't just Google Search it

Pro-Life

Side Score: 21
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Pro-Choice

Side Score: 39
3 points

I am pro-life for several reasons but I don't want to add my full argument before I hear some other views (because I want to show you where I believe your views are flawed).

I may not like what you say but I support your right to say it and I will not repeat my arguments more than once (unless I believe it is necessary).

Please just tell me what you think. :)

Side: Pro-Life
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

1. Most importantly forcing women to have babies they don't want has never and will never stop abortion. All that mentality does is kill the equal number of fetuses and more mothers along with them. Pro-life = more death. This is a historical fact.

2. It is not human. It has no more self-consciousness than an insect. Abortion to the point it is now legal is no more killing a baby than pulling out of the vagina right before you cum is killing a baby, or wearing a condom is killing a baby.

3. If all of that is considered killing a baby by you, then you are mentally retarded and should be shunned for your beliefs. And while I really like the internet, that the village idiots now have a forum to find other village idiots and create a community is a horrible thing for society. Here at least I long for the time all the villagers would just throw rotten fruit at you... if you believe this to be the case.

4. If abortion is wrong than you are arguing in the wrong place. God/ Nature aborts more kids than every single doctor and woman combined. You should be picketing and yelling at god to stop aborting first. The day your god stops aborting naturally, I'll consider your backwards destructive and evil self-righteous point of view.

Side: Pro-Choice
KitKat101(32) Disputed
2 points

"Most importantly forcing women to have babies they don't want has never and will never stop abortion. All that mentality does is kill the equal number of fetuses and more mothers along with them. Pro-life = more death. This is a historical fact."

Let's be honest here: since when does pro-life mean that both the fetus and the mother die? I do not get your point.

"It is not human"

I believe that it becomes a human with a soul from conception. If you do not believe the same, fine. But that it what I think. So wearing a condem is not abortion.

We cannot help nature and I believe that God is not responsible for all deaths. But we can help abortion. Your point here is like saying that "God murders people so if you want to make a statement out against murder then you should talk to God about it first..." Do you realize how ridiculous that statement sounds? Do you really want a world where everybody murders other people? It is not our place to decide who gets to live and who gets to die. That is why abortion is wrong.

One last brief point, someone mentioned these three things to me in saying why they were pro-choice. They said

1. What about rape?

-it is not the baby's fault. You can't choose to kill the baby or fetus just because you did not ask for it. I did not ask for my sister but I am stuck with her. Yes, rape sucks but you can't punish the innocent human being because of what someone else did to you

2. Teen pregnancy

-sorry but you shouldn't be having intercourse in the first place. You have no excuse. You brought this onto yourself

3. Give the woman a second chance! Everyone deserves a second chance!

-how is it fair or right that you give the woman a first chance by depriving someone else of ever having a first chance? That is just twisted.

Now, I have said my share. If you still don't agree with me, fine. I can't change your mind but I do believe firmly in what I have said.

Side: Pro-Life
1 point

All i have to say is the moment of conception is the beginning of life. If people truly believe in ending a life that will never be replaced truly sickens me. They can remove the baby by sea-section and if the mother of the child does not choose to raise the child, then adoption is a clear path for the child rather than ending its life.

Side: Pro-Life
2 points

Try searching for the other 42+ abortion debates on this site.

Side: Pro-Choice

not that any of them ever reached a conculson more civilized than both sides slinging mud at the other.

Side: Pro-Choice
1 point

Why would I want to force a women to carry a parasite inside of her for 9 months?

Side: Pro-Choice
101kakashi(381) Disputed
2 points

a parasite??? no matter where that fetus or how that fetus came from, you should never call it a parasite, it is a fetus that did nothing wrong! it might have been caused by a rapist, but it is still a human not a parasite.

Side: Pro-Life
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
0 points

Does the fetus harm he mother? Yes. Does the mother directly benefit from the fetus? No. Can the fetus survive without a direct link to the mother? Only after several months.

parasite (ˈpærəˌsaɪt)

— n

1. an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it

2. a person who habitually lives at the expense of others; sponger

Both definitions sound like a fetus.

Side: Pro-Choice
Jawkins20(140) Disputed
2 points

You should respect other human life, because you yourself are alive.

Side: Pro-Life
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
2 points

Yeah i do respect human life that's why I don't want to force women to carry a Parasite inside of them against their will.

Side: Pro-Choice

If someone is a strict constructionist who interprets the Constitution word for word, the sanction for abortion is given under the Fourteenth Amendment.

The Fourteenth Amendment of our U.S. Constitution defines a citizen “a citizen” at birth. If a woman is carrying a fetus in the womb, the U.S. Constitution does not designate the fetus as “a citizen.” It would take an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to declare a fetus a citizen. You have to be born in order to be recognized as a citizen. Therefore, a woman does have the right to choose. A fetus inside the womb is not designated as a citizen according to the U.S. Constitution so by default is not entitled to life, liberty, or prosperity. You have to be born in order to be endowed with those privileges. To conclude, neither the Federal government nor any of the States can deny a woman the right to choose.

If abortion is murder, abortion would have been terminated years ago due to the cruel and unusual punishment clause under the Eighth Amendment. Again, proof that a fetus is not recognized as a citizen of the United States of America.

Side: Pro-Choice