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Yes. No.
Debate Score:13
Arguments:17
Total Votes:16
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Abortion for rape victims.

Yes.

Side Score: 7
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No.

Side Score: 6

I have a different stance on abortion. I think that uncensored abortion will end in people aborting any child that is female, etc. Eugenics essentially.

The exceptions for me are rape, an underage mother (example 12 years old), or the birth killing the mother.

Side: Yes.
1 point

I actually agree. The fetus is a person, but so is the mother. When two lives depend on each other, their has to be moderation. It should be easier to choose life especially for rape victims, but 31 states allow rapists to stop the adoption. I'm really upset that Yeshua hates me for saying this. I'm a Christian, so this is very hard for me. #RealTalk

Side: Yes.
1 point

I think it's unclear concerning Jesus' view on abortion. I don't remember any fully certain stance given concerning mother's having a futuristic (to that time) surgery to protect a mother. I'd even say it could be argued that if you purposefully demand the mother put her life in serious danger, you are guilty for her murder.

I also think that God would judge the "why" of the act.

God: Why'd you abort the baby?

Woman: I was raped and was 10.

God: Allrighty then...

Side: No.
seanB(950) Disputed
1 point

You'd be surprised how many ostensibly "conservative" people agree with you on this. I'm an atheist, and a socialist, and I absolutely think that women should be able to have access to abortions under certain circumstances, but I also think that an unborn child's life is more valuable than the life of the mother, and I claim the right to believe that, and to have a say in that. Because all species are survived through their young. If we stop desiring to protect the infancy of our species then what is the point of us?

That said, when someone is impregnated against their will, by an attacker, they have the moral right to be un-impregnated if they desire it. I don't like either choice in those cases, and it's an impossible position for anybody to be in. Horrible.

Side: No.

It is the lesser evil. Simple idea really.

Side: Yes.
Sitar(3680) Clarified
1 point

FromWithin has me worried........................................................................................................

Side: Yes.
GoodListener(603) Clarified
1 point

Worry less about people who do not want your help.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Of course they should because it's so traumatic for them that it would be unfair to have to go through birth. If they are young or in poverty, they might not be able to care properly for a baby.

Side: Yes.
1 point

First off let me say, I choose no not because of a sanctimonious perspective but because I believe in the abilities of the human spirit to overcome atrocities, traumas of any kind and more. This is a really difficult position to stand for or against, I totally comprehend and understand why the person would do such a thing, because the baby is conceived out of the most horrible circumstances and everyday would be difficult for the mother who stares at a reminder of her violation instead of through loving eyes and heart.

But then there is the opposing view (and this may well come off as arrogant) we all suffer tremendous trials and tribulations and we don't get the choice of the easy way out, 99% of us who suffer sexual crimes have to go through it and endure it too, we would like the idea of being able to kill off the people who violated us sexually, unfortunately this is not how society works and so we have to live with the knowledge the people who have violated us are allowed to endure according to the graces afforded them through civil laws and liberties.

So aborting the baby could be a form of revenge against the assailant, and a physical expression of hatred towards another, these acts and more are definitely within the abilities of the person who does so, but the problem isn't being address for the better it is being exacerbated.

The person who was violated should seek counselling and healing of the soul so she can deal with the trauma and receive power to overcome the event and the effects it has on her. Be transformed from one person who was stripped of her rights, dignity and honour into one who maintained who dignity, honour, values and righteousness as well as increasing her graces, glories, mercies, compassions and more, then being a role model and shining light for other people who have suffered similar atrocities.

I get it, she wants to get rid of the baby because of pains she is feeling and wants out of the pain, but through counselling and healing she and many others can be taught to embrace the horror and through embracing learn to forgive truly, and then be caused to forget their pains. Having the baby would cause her to become one of the most powerful voices and woman on the planet. Pain precedes glory, the only thing is normal people cannot say what pain they have to suffer and endure then overcome in order to attain the glory reserved for them.

I remember a story about a woman who in one night was blocked by four hundred men, she took all those men and when they all finished she pulled up her pants, walked out of there with her head held high. If you're ignorant of what "blocked" means, it's a gang term for being screwed by all the men in a gang. This happened back in NZ.

Side: No.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

31 states allow the rapist to sue for custody denying the right to choose adoption. What are you doing to help?

Side: Yes.
Atrag(5666) Disputed Banned
0 points

Everyone has a right to petition a court for a decision on the custody of their child. A judge should decide that NOT YOU WALRUS!!!

Side: No.
0 points

• Democrats support no restriction abortions!

• ...but her emails!

• Hogwash!

• Jesus love you...you're going to burn in hell!

• You fools!

• You spew lies and deception as always!

• Anti-Christian bigots!

• Republicans can do no wrong!

• Democrats can do no right!

• I masturbate to Donald Trump!

-FromWithin

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• I'm the ultimate troll!

• Check out how I trolled so-in-so!

• Aren't I cool for having no life.

• I live in my mom's basement.

-Brontoraptor and Prodigee

Side: No.