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 Abortion is murder unless there is a valid medical reason. (19)

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Abortion is murder unless there is a valid medical reason.

If you knew what happens in an abortion, you would agree. Why are feminists whining about pregnancy, when they chose to have unprotected sex? If you don't want a baby, shut up, and use contraception. Your body, your choice? The baby is not part of your body, so find another excuse. To those who whine about where to find contraception: Go to Planned Parenthood, and get it. That is where I will get the referral from to get my tubes removed.
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The people who think like you try to shut down Planned Parenthood. How can people get contraception from Planned Parenthood if the Republicans shut down Planned Parenthood?

Sitar(3680) Disputed
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Not all prolifers oppose contraception.................................................................................................

sylynn(626) Disputed
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I'm not a supporter of PP, but I'm not aiming to have them shut down, just defunded. If it's a woman's choice and none of my business, don't make me pay for it. Birth control is cheap and easy to obtain from any doctor.

Narwhal(56) Clarified
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But that assumes that all women have access to health care. If you actively make it more difficult for low income women to get access to birth control, you will be paying the societal costs anyways. So isn't it more economically sound to pay the incredibly small preventative costs now, rather than paying the larger societal costs later?

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I think you would have to define what you mean b a valid medical reason

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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We already know what the definition of valid medical reason is to the Democrat Party.

Their definition is "health of mother" which is code for ALL ABORTIONS FOR ANY REASON AT ANY STAGE!

Is depression a health issue? So tell me if a woman wants an abortion a month from birth, what health reason will she use? She will obviously say she is depressed over the pregnancy.

Can you grasp why the Left refuses to compromise with the GOP on 20 week abortion limits (unless extreme cases)?

THEY ALWAYS USE THE WORDS "HEALTH OF MOTHER" so that all abortions for any reason will be allowed. That is the only wording the extreme radical pro abortion feminist lobby will allow. Democrats are tied hook line and sinker to the abortion lobby!

When you vote for this extreme democrt Party, you are supporting no restriction abortions!

luckin(175) Clarified
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My question was directed at the person who created this debate. Would this be your definition of a valid medical reason?

Sitar(3680) Disputed
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It is pretty clear what medical reasons means...................................................................................................................................

luckin(175) Clarified
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You're right. However, that doesn't answer the question. What do you mean by a valid medical reason?

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I agree it's clear what a medical reason is, though whether or not it's valid is debatable. What you define as a valid reason can be very different from me. Watch any formal debate and you'll see terms are always defined for this very reason. When it comes to abortion there are also other terms to define such as murder and life. A blanket statement such as yours, "Abortion is murder..." is too vague.

I'm not one to believe life begins at conception, but I also don't believe it begins at birth. Personally I believe life (in the case that murder can be attributed to it) begins with the heartbeat. If a woman is raped, go to your doctor immediately to avoid a pregnancy.

This is why you need to define terms as I do not believe there is a single valid medical reason that should permit an abortion after a heartbeat is detected.

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Firstly murder is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another so abortion in the first trimester is not murder because a collection of cells has not yet become a human being which by definition is a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

Secondly should any female have to bear a baby that was conceived of the violence of rape or of incest, or failure of contraception or whose quality of life will be minimal due to severe birth defects or malformation

Ask yourself if you were that female what would you do

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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You laughable joke.

Who do you think you are kidding talking abour 1st trimester abortions except in extreme cases? Do you actually think you are fooling anyone with that garbage?

YOU HELP ELECT RADICAL PRO ABORTION DEMOCRATS WHO SUPPORT NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS OF VIABLE BABIES FOR ANY REASON UP TO BIRTH!

The GOP has tried to get a compromise of 20 week abortion limits (FIVE MONTHS) for abortions and allow extreme case exceptions after that. DEMOCRATS REFUSE TO COMPROMISE EVERY TIME!

Their code phrase is health of mother which allows ALL ABORTIONS FOR ANY REASON because the mother simply has to say she is depressed. Spew your lies somewhere else.

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I will agree it's a shame ... unless there is a VALID reason. It may be a necessity for MANY reasons and a woman should have that CHOICE! If you are a Christian, LEAVE IT TO GOD! JUDGE NOT!

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abortion is always a murder. it is still a murder even if it is justified by valid medical reason. as long as there is a life being taken away by someone, it is murder.

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No, the baby isnt part of their body. The blood being supplied to it is though. The woman can choose to stop giving its blood to the baby.

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If this is the case, are miscarriages manslaughter if the women in question contributed in any way, shape, or form to it?

Should women who have miscarriages be subjected to police inquiry, where they analyze her behavior and determine how culpable she was?

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Nonsense, a pregnant woman is not morally obliged to carry a pregnancy to term , if she's chooses to abort no rights have been violated .

Your whole post Is merely a rant that's appealing to the masses to support your nonsense .

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I agree with what you say other than the Planned Parenthood reference.

Women can get contraceptives from many groups, clinics, and doctors, and they do not need a radical pro abortion Planned parenthood to do so.

Please, do not support this radical pro abortion orgnization Planned parenthood. You are supporting the very abortions you say you want to prevent.