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Brexit made me delighted, I will be overjoyed to see the beast of Brussels banished from my country, however the US electing a horrible anti-LGBT, cringey, moronic individual like Trump with no political experience is something I cannot condone
That one regulation that allows the Muslims in. That other regulation that sends all that money to the EU. And the regulation that allows the Irish in. Fuck the Irish.
it is horrific. I am living in Germany, really worried about what rights I will have left when the UK leaves, and the reason is dickheads like this guy who don't even try and understand the issues.
Horrific is a more apt word choice. I just have to laugh or I'd be crying instead. I'm not very aware of the rights fallout for other EU nations due to Brexit, but this kind of stupid dickery causes plenty of problems my end (every end, really, I suppose).
Sorry I thought you knew.. I am English and live in German. Currently I am trying to get into medical school here but if the UK leaves it could be that they wont recognise my qualifications from the UK and discriminate against me based on nationality for any public sector jobs or training.
Ah, thanks for clarifying. I recalled your being English, but don't think I knew you lived in Germany or your career trajectory. That's really shitty to have that all tossed up in the air on account of others' stupidity. Hopefully Germany's smarter about it all and continues to recognize the benefit of an exchange of people, but not knowing really sucks.
2. I dislike most foreigners because I'm gay, with the exception of Mulsims, Eastern Europeans are the worst when it comes to respecting gays, so I don't want them coming here.
Please tell me exactly what Trump has said or done that makes him anti-LGBT? He is the most LGBT friendly Republican President Elect ever. You, like so many others, are a victim of the lying main stream media.
Such as when, exactly? Sincere question. I don't know his full history there, I'll admit. His VP pick told me everything I needed, and that was about as far from a friendly action he could have taken.
I agree about Pence.. no doubt but I don't think Trump shares those opinions. Just Google it. Here's something from MSNBC, I chose MSNBC because they're about as whacky left as it gets:
He doesn't have to agree with Pence. He picked the man as his running mate. And his track record with gays doesn't do me any good (though the refs were interesting; thanks). I'm not that kind of queer. Far as I can tell he's never done anything good for me, and pulling Pence up was a bad. Enough of a reason for me to not get behind the man, everything else aside.
Worth bringing up at the very least. Not all of his policies are idiotic. Some of them are even alright, or at least reasonable by average standards. Easy to get focused on his populist extremism...
Not sure why you keep disputing me but, whatevs. Pence doesn't matter? No VP has ever really mattered. They can disagree. George W was against gay marriage but his VP Cheney was OK with it, saying it should be up to the states.
Obama and Hillary were against gay marriage 8 years ago. Donald J Trump will be the first President of the United States of America that is for gay marriage on inauguration day.
Selecting dispute is just force of habit. I wouldn't read into it.
Pence probably won't have much policy effect, but he's got a soapbox he didn't have before and that's bad enough for me. I'm not claiming it's going to be a horrible magnitude of badness. Even a minor net negative is a net negative is all.
I never said I liked Obama or Clinton, and I don't. MIC STILL ON STAND ;)
His running mate would see us all in a conversion camp if he could. Pence is very anti-LGBT from what I've heard. Also Trump wants to do a way with gay marriage.
He has also said that the SCOTUS has made their decision and it's the law of the land. He has made more favorable comments about LGBT issues over the years than unfavorable. He's a politician now and he's double talking like they all do... he doesn't want to piss off evangelicals. Come on. This man isn't a conservative, not on social issues. Hilldabeast and Barry weren't for gay marriage 8 years ago and now they are because the climate changed. Gay marriage is here to stay and anyone that thinks it's going to be reversed now is just foolish. It's like abortion, if you want to see late term abolished... okay, that's possible but abortion is here to stay so everyone should stop getting bent out of shape over something that has been decided. Facts are facts and opinions are opinions and Trump has said one thing one day and another the next so I have only my gut to go on and he seems to be more LGBT friendly than any other GOPer so that's what I'm going with and this has become one hell of a run on sentence so I'm done.
As if you care about anything but the G anyways. His anti-constitutional positions on religion are more concerning to me (as a queer atheist, mind), but i don't expect you to care especially much about the broader legal ethic of foreign (or domestic) leaders. It's abundantly evident you dislike people on the basis of their nationality and religion alone, so it makes sense you wouldn't find those characteristics in an elected official problematic.
I care about lesbians. I care about trans people who are actually transsexual and not claiming to be "non-binary" or some made up tumblr shite just to be special.
Yes, you care about lesbians and binary trans people so much that you try to regulate how they talk about themselves. Your need to invalidate non-binary identity is identical in form and reason to the need others have to invalidate gay identity. It doesn't withstand even a cursory test of reason.
How someone else identifies their gender has nothing to do with you, and it's conceited to think it does. But I suppose you need to believe others' self conception revolves around you; or, in other words, you just need to feel special. Don't you? And snowflake, I wouldn't mind that at all if you weren't trying to claim a high ground over Muslims and immigrants. I just can't abide hypocrisy.
Oh fuck off. Non-binary didn't even exist before the internet. Gays have existed since before time began. Gay relationships continue to exist whether other people respect them or not, whereas "non-binary" is reliant on the belief of strangers. Like fucking tinkerbell. "Non-binary" is a made up gender. Gender is a binary that society forces upon us, you are either seen as a male or female, you cannot fall outside of those two boxes. Non-binaries are not even trans. Dysphoria is a requirement of being a transsexual. "non-binary" is something you just decide to describe yourself as.
Gay isn't an "identity". You don't fucking identify as gay it's just something you are. The fact that you use "identity" to describe everything shows that you are a ridiculous identifarian snowflake tumblrina.
You calling yourself "Queer", appropriating a homophobic slur and not expecting gay males to be insulted is the equivalent of me calling myself the N word and not expecting black people to annoyed.
Muslim immigrants assault and even kill gay and transsexual people. In the UK 1/4 homophobic hate crimes are committed by them. You honestly believe that's the equivalent of someone online saying believe that gender is a binary? You pathetic fucking special snowflake. I bet you fucking love Milo Stewart on youtube. Your problems are made up, our problems are real.
I know many real transsexuals who hate your kind. You're a caricature of them, a man taking the piss out of their struggle.
PS: I have now made you my enemy as you are clearly a retard SJW who strongly adheres to tumblr idealogy. Such people can only be my enemies.
Non-binary gender actually has an extensive and documented history, particularly among indigenous American and Oceanic people. Empirically, it isn't inherent to any society that it view gender as binary. Notably, you are once again using an argument identical to one historically used against gay men. Now as then, it doesn't actually matter to the existence of something if it happened to exist before. (Ironically, I'm non-gender which actually makes mine the only gender that isn't made up.)
It doesn't make any sense to think that personal identity depends exclusively on what others believe about the subject in question. If someone insists that you are a banana that doesn't make you a banana, no matter how popular their opinion may be. Again, this is an argument historically used against gay men that you are now using against non-binary people; and, again, the response is the same: non-binary people have and will continue to exist whether others believe in or respect them. Disbelieving in what exists doesn't make it magically disappear. Moreover, if you want to use this argument you need to use it consistently. That necessarily means condemning every gay rights advocate and movement, because they too have categorically resisted and fallen outside of the socially accepted option.
"Identity" literally refers to any behavioral or personal characteristic which constitutes a person. Using the term correctly doesn't make me a "snowflake tumblrina", it just demonstrates that I actually understand what language means. I'm fine omitting "identity" because it's semantically equivalent to just stating the characteristic; it's hardly integral to my position. I didn't choose to be non-gender anymore than you chose to be gay. And, again, you've borrowed another anti-gay talking point to use against non-binary people; and, again, the response is the same: it doesn't matter if it is a choice because it's their choice to make on account of it being their life.
Defining binary trans identity exclusively in terms of its pathologization is as baseless as it was (and in some places still is) when people did it for gay men. Incidentally, non-binary trans people satisfy the diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria anyways so your argument still doesn't hold water.
As I explained previously, the term "queer" has a more complex history than you want to acknowledge. The word was an ablist slur well before it became a slur for gay men. And subsequent to being used to deride gay men it has come into popular use against lesbians, bisexuals, binary trans, non-binary trans, etc. Your comparison to a white person using the word "nigger" to describe themselves is a false equivalency precisely because "queer" is popularly applied beyond gay men whereas "nigger" is not popularly applied to white people. At any rate, if you wanted to call yourself a nigger I'd say power to you; I don't think anyone owns language.
I never said that no Muslim immigrants assault and kill gay and transgender people, and I recognize that they do so disproportionately. However, I won't join you in your fallacious generalization from that to all Muslims and all immigrants and I certainly don't support treating people differently under the law on the sole basis of their religious beliefs. I also refuse to ignore that 75% of the crimes in question are committed by people who aren't Muslim immigrants whom you don't make equivalent generalizations about our propose treating differently under the law as a group. That discrepancy in your argument suggests zenophobia, not a reasoned assessment of risk.
I also never said that being assaulted or murdered is remotely the same as someone online saying non-binary gender doesn't exist. I would, however, point to the assault and murder that non-binary people experience and that's a very real problem whether you recognize it or not.
I've never even heard of Milo Stewart.
Pointing out that you are factually incorrect, inconsistent in your rationale, and irrationally concerned with how other people think of and describe themselves does not make me an SJW. It just makes me correct. However, trying to police the language others use to talk about themselves certainly does seem characteristic of an SJW... so I guess that must mean you're your own enemy?
Both elections were close run contests but whilst the British ''remain camp'' whinged a lot after the Brexit victory they, and their supporters accepted the result without violent and undemocratic demonstrations.
The Brexit victory was largely a vote to enable the U.K, to take control of it's own borders thus enabling them to restrict the tide of eastern European ''health and benefit tourists''.
Hundreds of thousands of these people have swamped the U.K's free national health service without ever having contributed a penny towards its existence and have overwhelmed the classrooms with their children most of whom cannot speak English.
The influx of eastern Europeans has created a crisis in the availability of social housing and they have turned great tracts of our towns and cities into ''NO GO, CRIME RIDDLED SLUM DISTRICTS'' which had hitherto been well maintained homes and respectable areas.
The European Court at Strasbourg has overruled numerous decisions made by the British courts to expel countless criminals from the U.K, as they have deemed that such a move would be a violation of their human rights.
These criminals who laugh at our thwarted attempts to get rid of them have re offended with such crimes as murder, rape, gang rape, assault and a catalogue of crimes which could have been prevented had they been returned to the shit holes from whence they came.
The Brussels Parliament has spent time debating important issues such as introducing a law regarding the permitted curvature of bananas and cucumbers.
Under much debated rules stated that all bananas must be ''free of abnormal curvature''.
Under the rules cucumbers were to be ''practically straight''and bent by a gradient of no more than 1/10.
These are the type of madcap issues the Brussels Mafioso spend their time and our money every day debating.
The tremendous waste and eye-watering corruption of the Brussels Mafioso is incalculable.
The E.U, have never ''closed their books'', or in other words, they have never produced audited accounts nor made any records of their expenditure available for public scrutiny.
The 48,000 E.U, civil servants have the most 'sick days'' and holiday entitlement than any other workforce, either in the public or private sector in the whole of Europe, maybe in the world for all anyone knows.
Despite declining to join ''The Eurozone'' ( the European single currency) the U.K, is forced to contribute 10s of millions of pounds sterling towards the cost of bailing out such basket case nations as Greece which has been the recipient of 100s of billions of Euros, none of which will ever be repaid.
There are some correlations between Trump's democratic election as president of the United States and the Brexit victory but the main one is that the winning votes came from those everyday people who became weary of being overlooked and their needs and aspirations being eclipsed by priority being given to the such fringe groups as illegal immigrants, ethnic minority groups, those of deviant sexual orientation and a general range of society's misfits.
''LETS BE PROUD TO BE AVERAGE VOTERS AND 'EVERYDAY' LAW ABIDING CITIZENS''.
The influx of eastern Europeans has created a crisis in the availability of social housing and they have turned great tracts of our towns and cities into ''NO GO, CRIME RIDDLED SLUM DISTRICTS'' which had hitherto been well maintained homes and respectable areas.
Please cite a source.
The European Court at Strasbourg has overruled numerous decisions made by the British courts to expel countless criminals from the U.K, as they have deemed that such a move would be a violation of their human rights.
These criminals who laugh at our thwarted attempts to get rid of them have re offended with such crimes as murder, rape, gang rape, assault and a catalogue of crimes which could have been prevented had they been returned to the shit holes from whence they came.
Dear average voter, the European Court of Human Rights has nothing to do with the EU. The UK will still remain a signatory on the Convention when they leave the EU. People that will be tortured if deported back to their home country will still not be deported.
The Brussels Parliament has spent time debating important issues such as introducing a law regarding the permitted curvature of bananas and cucumbers.
Logical fallacy. If someone concerns themselves with one thing it does not mean they arent concerned about others.
The 48,000 E.U, civil servants have the most 'sick days'' and holiday entitlement than any other workforce, either in the public or private sector in the whole of Europe, maybe in the world for all anyone knows.
Source needed. Is this including all the UK MEPs that never even showed up at parliament?
''LETS BE PROUD TO BE AVERAGE VOTERS AND 'EVERYDAY' LAW ABIDING CITIZENS''.
What you said is false. In particular, do you have any defense for for your astoundingly misinformed view on the Court of Human Rights? I bet you were one of the ones that searched "What is the EU?" after you voted leave right?
I wasn't exactly expecting either, particularly Brexit as I'm admittedly less informed about British social politics, but neither surprised me very much. They're both a product of ignorance and stupidity, and I do expect that from people in large groups.
Trump didn't surprise me; Brexit was more shocking but that was because I knew it was at a 50/50 stage so the closeness itself was no surprise to me.
Once you observe who has the money and who controls campaign ads as well as who benefits from certain things happening you will get a much better grasp on which way votes sway and how much they sway.
Brexit was not won due to 'fascism winning' or due to 'racism increasing' it wasn't even won due to Boris turncoating or Farage being a louder more confident speaker than most on the left, it was won because Trans-national corporations had more say in Britain at the time than European-based corporations.
How can a corporation control votes? 92% or so of voters are either employed or making money by some legal steady means, they vote based on what they think their source of income will benefit most from. Yes, even the romantic voters are voting based on this but they tend to work in industries and corporations who incidentally support their already set views rather than the reverse.
If the accuracy of polling predictions to actual outcome is the basis if your surprise, then Trump's election should have surprised you more than Brexit...
Trump didn't surprise me; Brexit was more shocking but that was because I knew it was at a 50/50 stage so the closeness itself was no surprise to me.
You literally said you predicated based on odds. I never even mentioned predicting based on politics, and I don't disagree that politics follows the money either.
My odds were calculated not based on prediction articles. They were based on analyzing which industries profit more from either outcome and have more of a chokehold on the media.
At the time of this election, America had many major insurance companies infuriated with how much Obamacare was helping smaller insurance companies set up and truly compete on their level via government sanctions. these insurance companies had many share sin other companies who in some way or another shared their anger and who they wanted to 'help to help' the campaign of Trump (he took many underhand donations via major stock sin his business as opposed to legally registered political donations).
Gas companies, BP especially, had been stifled since the oil spill incident that Obama had responded to with an iron grip and were very keen in the Romney election but tat that time other companies hadn't yet shared their fury. So, a group of officials form many companies that Obama has been sucking dry over the past 8 years formed a team of experts on manipulation and neuro-lingual programming to teach Trump not just what to say but how to say it and more importantly when to say each thing in order to get one outlying group of voters after another. they very likely begged Trump to run as they knew he was as filthy and as ready to do underhanded politics as they'd ever dreamed a president could be. Trump most likely reluctantly ran as estate business has been slowly reducing in USA since people are becoming more accustomed to buy tall buildings rather than big ones which were never his speciality.
The people behind Trump have shares in Facebook, in Twitter and many other social media methods and are readying each and every text for keywords spitting trends of thigns before a single public sign of protest has been uttered. they spotted a lot of racism towards Muslims in private and a lot of hatred to towards Mexico and China, things which the left had no idea were even brewing and they annihilated the left's attempt at campaigning along with any other right wing candidate by almost magically talking about things which they knew any had private concerns about because they had bought access to private data on a macro level.
Obama's war in Syria is also to further punish oil companies, just so you know. He knew they'd lost faith in him and wanted to hamper their Syria-related trade by alienating USA from much of the Eastern world with this war.
No. As much as I don't like him I understand that people are tired of the same politics we've had for the last number of years, before even Obama came into office. Hillary offered much of the same thing, with no change in policies or political nonsense in sight. Trump however says the things that some people want to hear, and no I'm not including his mouth vomit that is sexist, racist and generally awful. I said this in another argument, Trump is just a man, we decide as Americans how we want America to be and I still have faith that people will get their heads out of their asses and start making this place a better one through example.
Neither those things have a Goddamned thing to do with the nature of Humanity. Thus, they did not affect one iota my current views on the State of Humanity on this planet.
Those two incidents: Trump and BREXIT, are simply political occurrences. They are NOT actions which were propagated by a changing zeitgeist of Humanity. Rather, they were only propagated by the peoples of two different nations and their current political ideals.
That is a very small thing, in proportion to The Nature of Humanity. Which is usually measured by over-arching and majority changes in morals and values and ideals. Examples of this would be.....the Holocaust.......World Wars......Abortion....Religious extremism and how people react to it.......class warfare.....and of course the breakdown of the traditional nuclear family. Sexual deviancy and tolerance for it...such as letting your child go into a public restroom with gender freaks, would also make the cut here.
So quit thinking so small. Humanity has been around for 100,000 years or so. Trump and Brexit are mere blips on the radar screen, if that. In fact, all they do is merely confirm what we have known about Humanity for along time: when the homo sapien animal is dissatisfied with his or her current economic station in life, they will take measures to have the powers that be get removed. Or changed. This is old news.
Besides, both Brexit and Trump will be gone in a few years. the UK WILL return to the EU. And Trump will be lucky to last one term. Yawn.
Why would something I don't have be damaged? Why would I have faith in humanity? I know they are Hell bent on ruling the universe and most of them will end up frying like eternal sausages in the lake of fire. Humanity cannot save itself, cannot save me, cannot save anybody. Why would anybody have faith in humanity?