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Good, if you sell coat hangers Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
Debate Score:85
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Alabama outlaws abortion. No exceptions for rape or incest. PRISON if violated. Good Law?

Good, if you sell coat hangers

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Yes, if you wanna rule wombs

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1 point

I am prolife with exceptions. I think exceptions should be made for rape victims, because I was raped when I was 22. No one will ever change my mind on this. That governor was never raped, and has no right to a rape victim's body. She is not a woman, but a glorified girl. Real men and women support a rape victim's right to choose. Anyone who disagrees can kiss my *.

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
Amarel(4879) Clarified
1 point

Would you concede to the victim having to file a report of a crime?

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
Redeemed(475) Clarified
1 point

Most definately. I believe in punishing rapists............................................................................................................

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers

Alabama outlaws abortion. No exceptions for rape or incest. PRISON if violated. Good Law?

Sure, it's a great law. If you are INSANE.

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
0 points

No prison for the mother. It would be prison for any murderer, just as we have laws against people who might murder you!

Why is your life so much more valuable then the baby's life?

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
-1 points

Your title is deceptive as always...

Alabama does not ban all abortions! It STILL allows abortions for health reasons!

Why should an innocent life be killed just because his father is a criminal? It was not the baby's fault! I guess we should base the value of a human life on the quality of our fathers. This is how selfish Pro abortion people have become.

Any woman who has been raped should have LONG AGO been educated to the fact that she can go to the doctors within a day or two and prevent conception. There is no need for the pregnancy to happen.

If it still does happen, there are millions of good parents in the world waiting for newborns to adopt.

This Bill is intended to get the Supreme court to address Roe V Wade and stop the madness of No Restriction abortions, supported by the Democrat Party, around the nation.

This is what a member of Alabama's House stated...

"Rep. Terri Collins, a member of the Alabama House who introduced the ban, reportedly said that if Roe v. Wade is overturned, individual states can then tailor their abortion laws as desired."

According to the AP, she said this initial ban was not designed as a lasting law and could be modified should the Supreme Court side with abortion opponents. She said she would support exceptions for rape and incest victims at that point."

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
Redeemed(475) Disputed
2 points

I was raped, am I just a ucking womb to you? Anyone who forces a rape victim to give birth, is a rapist. Pla B can fail, so deal with that. I guess we do have Sharia Law in this cuntry. I had to have my tubes removed, because people like you are taking away the rights of raped victims. If you can shoot an intruder, a rape victim can abort one. Hypocrite!

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
2 points

He is a pathetic sniveling hypocrite who will possibly say next women deserve to be raped as it brings more babies into the world

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
AlofRI(2646) Clarified
1 point

You GO girl! I'm with you all the way on this one, I've had the experience. (Not the rape, the needed abortion)!

Idiocy comes FromWithin, and this idiot oozes it!

HEY, FromWithin …. If YOU can remove HER reproductive rights …. can I remove YOURS??? ;-)

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
FromWithin(7144) Disputed
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You never get it!

That baby is not an intruder! It was not his choice to be conceived. It was not your choice to get pregnant, BUT IT HAPPENED!

Bad things sometimes happen in life, and we don't blame the baby! We have mothers throwing their babies into dumpsters because of traumatic hardships in their life. Are you ok with that? You are using the same argument as they use to excuse it. They will tell us how they are poor, abused, drug addicted, etc. etc. and for these reasons threw the Baby in the dumpster.

An unborn baby is no different from a born baby thrown in a dumpster.

There should be very few rape pregnancies if women were educated to getting to a doctor after a rape.

If she can not get to a doctor in time, we have many parents wanting to adopt. Yes I understand it would be very hard carrying a baby conceived by rape. Some mothers want to keep the child, some want to give them away for adoption.

Why should we take a life to make a traumatic situation easier? I feel sorry for your terrible ordeal but that does not mean we take a life. It will not erase that terrible event and might even bring on guilt from the abortion.

Killing an innocent baby would be something that Sharia Law would have no problem with. They support taking innocent life all the time.

I would never judge you for having an abortion after a rape, but I would also not make it legal to do so. It's not the baby's fault.

Why didn't you go to a doctor after the rape?

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
Jody(1144) Disputed
1 point

If it still does happen, there are millions of good parents in the world waiting for newborns to adopt.

How many have you adopted so far Captain morality?

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
FromWithin(7144) Disputed
1 point

So now if people stand up for innocent human lives, we are considered moralists?

GET REAL!

If you supported slavery 200 years ago, would you also be calling those people trying to end slavery as being moralists?

I did not have to adopt because we could have our own babies. There are many many parents who can not have children waiting for newborns to adopt.

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
2 points

To clarify:

The "heartbeat rule" is a policy that Alabama is the first state to implement since Roe v Wade, but has been brought up in numerous conservative platforms previously. It outlaws all abortions past 6 weeks from conception, which is the point where the heartbeat is first noticeable. However, this is also before most pregnancies are detected, so that many women are likely going to get caught in the unfortunate situation of not being aware that they were pregnant until it is too late to legally be able to do anything about it.

The purpose of the bill is partially to enact the heartbeat rule as law, but it is also an attempt to get an abortion court case to the Supreme Court (which, thanks to Trump being in the White House and McConnell being in control of the Senate, now has a definite conservative majority) in an attempt to overturn the landmark Roe v Wade decision. If it succeeds, it will allow any state to institute severe restrictions on when, where, how, and why an unwilling mother can abort her fetus.

No, it is not a good law. It is condemning unwitting women into an 18 year obligation without their knowledge or consent.

Unwilling mothers can sometimes be bad mothers, and a lack of planning might mean that a poor child is left in an unloving household. It puts the child at risk of an unnecessarily traumatic childhood.

This ignores the even more blatant flaw that it means that the government is regulating an intensely personal decision, which is something that it seems most Republicans don't want the government to do ("don't regulate my guns," "don't regulate my religion," the "Don't Tread On Me" movement in general).

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
Grugore(854) Disputed
1 point

There is a simple way for women to completely avoid the issue. Keep their damn legs crossed!

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
Mint_tea(3939) Disputed
2 points

Actually I have a better way. Mandatory vasectomies for all males when they turn 13. They can only undo it when their partner (ie...their wife) agree's to it.

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
excon(12061) Disputed
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To clarify:

The "heartbeat rule" is a policy that Alabama is the first state to implement since Roe v Wade,

Hello E:

Nahhh...

To clarify the clarification, Georgia passed a 6 week "heartbeat bill".. Alabama, on the other hand, passed a TOTAL ban on abortion..

DUDE!

excon

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
FromWithin(7144) Disputed
1 point

LIAR!

It is not a total ban you deceptive liar! Mothers can still get abortions for health reasons!

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
2 points

That ought to keep the religious bigots happy ,maybe next ban the teaching of Evolution in Alabama or just make Islam the religion by law and ban everything that’s not agreeable to “god fearing” bigots of Alabama

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs

PRISON if violated. Good Law?

Good relative to what?

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
1 point

SUCKS to be YOU !!!!!!!!!! Are you EXCON or BRONTORAPTOR both of you are ASSHOLE BUDDIES ????????????????

The STATE of ALABAMA has put you STEWARDS of CHILDREN on a PATH you cannot UNDERSTAND nor CONTROL because push back is a CONFUSED WORLD for you TROLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEW YORK applauds for KILLING CHILDREN after they are born and you FUCKIN IDIOTS just GOLF CLAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well guess what you LITTLE SOCIALIST GURLS people are watching and Al Gore's Internet provides all that information.

SOCIALIST GURLS you better get some control on the internet and if you don't all your dreams will be destroyed because you will not have the STATE RUN media that you dream of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
1 point

This is a very bad thing. If you back people into a corner with no choice, they will find a way...and more will die because of it. We just took a huge step backwards as a society today!

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
0 points

I'm curious if the prison sentence for rape is longer than the prison sentence for abortions. Hmmmm.....doesn't seem to be. Potentially 99 years for the doctor who preforms the procedure even if it's in the first stage and....gee....rapists can get up to 25 years or so? Looks like coat hangers and back ally's are going to go back in style.

And those poor rape victims....let's go ahead and make them suffer some more, sure....it's their fault for being raped and forcing them to give birth, to have their body not be their own again....icing on the cake. Oh but wait again! I'm positive that Alabama is going to set aside a large amount of money to provide free birth control, contraceptives and sex education for schools. Yeah?

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
FromWithin(7144) Disputed
1 point

Do you ever get tired of dehumanizing that unborn life? You act as if a woman having to carry a baby to term is somehow worse than KILLING THE BABY!

Get some priorities! It's embarrassing listening to your Pro abortion rants.

Why don't you and your so called tolerant Left start educating women to the importance of going to the doctor after a rape and preventing the pregnancy?

Nah, that would not help your narrative for keeping ALL abortions legal. You must always use fear tactics to justify your support for all abortions.

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
Mint_tea(3939) Disputed
1 point

Do you ever get tired of dehumanizing women?

Do you ever get tired of railing against free birth control, sex ed in schools, and free contraceptives? You know....most of which helps prevent unplanned pregnancy?

Nah. Why would you do that? Just going against abortion means you don't have to do anything.

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
Redeemed(475) Disputed
1 point

You dehumanize the born, so why not? How Catholic of you....................................................................................................

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
Redeemed(475) Clarified
1 point

The far right does not care about rape victims..........................................................................................

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
1 point

The right cares about rape victims. The left uses them to help break down the systems that God created.

The left is called out in the Bible repeatedly for its scheming and hypocrisy. Leftists literally are the Pharisees. Fake on top of fake. Morally outraged at every turn, in need of the "he who is without sin" speech. Constantly griping as some Israelites did, that slavery with Pharoah is better than freedom...

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
Amarel(4879) Clarified
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I'm curious if the prison sentence for rape is longer than the prison sentence for abortions.

Considering that the law in question recognizes the personhood of the unborn, it would be reasonable that rape is not punished more severely than willfully killing a person.

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
Jody(1144) Clarified
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Considering that the law in question recognizes the personhood of the unborn, it would be reasonable that rape is not punished more severely than willfully killing a person.

That’s a good question , will a woman who aborts be given 20 to 25 years imprisonment for aborting? , Most societies seem to give the most severe sentences to the killers of babies , it will be interesting to see the first case appear before a court

Side: Good, if you sell coat hangers
outlaw60(14245) Disputed
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Mint_tea(3939) Disputed
1 point

You stupid bitch i am curious why your parents did not abort you

Because they wanted me. Duh.

Being you support abortion yet you did not abort your child ?

Because I wanted my children and had no reason to even consider abortion. Duh.

How fuckin confused you dummies are !

You're pretty damn confused. Duh.

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs
Redeemed(475) Disputed
1 point

You don't care about children, blankhole......................................................................................................................................................

Side: Yes, if you wanna rule wombs