Aliens are OUT There in this universe
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There's no reason to think that life doesn't exist outside of this planet. Our sun is just a star in a universe with billions of stars. Just consider in all the vastness of space how many solar systems there are...why would our solar system be the only one with a planet capable of supporting life? Side: Yes!
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Not only are they out there, but they are way out there. I mean, they are out of this world because they are not of this world . But the beauty of it is that if they land here without a visa and checking in with home land security, they would become "illegal aliens" and if they just so happen to land in Arizona, they get shipped back to where they came from ;) Side: Yes!
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Yeah, maybe a couple thousand, million, or billion light years from here. Has anyone ever heard of this famous mathematical formula, wich took in all these estimatings of things from "civilization time" to number of stars, and then generated a number for "number of intelligent life forms in the universe". They got around 10. Side: Yes!
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Extraterrestrial aliens or illegal aliens. Well, either are inconvenient to my way of life. If extraterrestrial aliens ever were in plain view, they would destroy the Earth or enslave humanity, and that would be a really bad day. THEY WON'T COME IN PEACE. Illegal aliens shouldn't be America because well, they don't have the legal right, so they should leave, and go back from whatever country they came from. VAMOS Side: Yes!
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Abiogenesis, evolution and nebula hypothesis allow for the possibility of countless alien civilisations. However because we are limited to subluminal velocities we'll never see them. There is absolutely no more empirical proof that aliens exist than that the Nephilim exist. Side: No!
Yes, there is a very high chance that there is life out there somewhere. Intelligent life that has visited us? No, probably not. But life almost has to be out there. Look at the elements we're made of. Carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and others. The same elements that are the most common in the universe. Look at how many stars there are. We now know that planets are pretty common too. Look at how many galaxies there are. Look at the kinds of environments life can exist in here on earth. Even if life is pretty rare, there must be millions of planets with life on it. Look at the Drake Equation. Side: Yes!
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Considering the size of our Universe, it's a definite. It's a matter of considering all the different types of matter and elements in the Universe and how many different ways they can come together. If what happened here on Earth is the only way life can happen, then that sequence of events has definitely repeated itself at least 5 more times. Side: Yes!
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Alien life existing elsewhere in the universe is almost a certainty. Conditions on earth vary widely, and we're able to find some form of life in nearly all of them- in cold water that is only liquid due to its salinity, in high-temperature sulture-saturated hypoxic environments, you name it. Even if earth is assumed to be uniquely suited to life, the variety of conditions life can survive under on our planet alone is staggering. As such, the number of planets out there that can potentially support life as we know it is quite high- many discount just how diverse life on our own planet is. Even if the chance of life forming under good conditions is infinismal, there would still be numerous planets where it formed. Intelligent alien life existing elsewhere in the universe is a possibility, but I'd be hesitant to call it likely or unlikely as I simply do not have much data on how likely intelligence is to arise in general; other biomes may make intelligence more or less likely to evolve. We only have one example of a species that has evolved intelligence- ourselves. And the conditions that we can survive and thrive in naturally are quite limited compared to many other species; we are only able to spread as far as we are due to our intelligence and ability to manipulate our environment. Making contact with intelligent alien life is far less likely; even if interestellar distances can be removed as a limiting factor, it is difficult to establish communications with other humans when a common language is lacking. With another species entirely, many of the basic assumptions that need to be made to understand one another might not apply. Side: Yes!
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As soon as you can prove it, I'll be fine with believing in aliens. but think about it folks. The odds of life ever being formed are astronomical x infinity. the odds of intelligent life forming from that cell are astronomical to the infinitive power. Sure, the universe can be infinite (assuming it's not expanding), which gives it enough chances to happen again. But I doubt it. side note: I know my math is off. The actual chance of life being formed is not infinity, it is actually a number that is practically zero. so still, for it to happen again is "practically zero x two". Side: No!
I don't think you realize how large the numbers are. Billions of, not planets, but galaxies with billions of stars, and many with planets. Practically zero is not zero, even 0000.1 is enough for there to be hundreds of thousands of times life could have arisen. The odds only point toward life. It's hard to comprehend numbers that large, but if you sit down and think about it, maybe you'll get it. Drake equation. Side: Yes!
and how have you determined that the chance of life forming are so infinitesimal?? Your math is way way way off. First our planet is a star. Now how many stars are in the sky at night?? Just try to count them. How many planets does our solar system have? Well not counting dwarf planets, 8. Geological evidence show that Mars had water in its history. Saturn's moon Enceladus has giant geysers that shoot hot water from below the surface, contributing to Saturn's rings. The stars that we see at night aren't all stars like our sun, but more galaxies like our Milky Way, which contains billions of stars. Now you mention math. In our solar system, 1 planet has life, Mars had water, and Enceladus has water below its surface. That's three places that could have life in only one solar system. Now there are billions of stars in each galaxies, and billions of galaxies in the universe. Yes, I agree with you that "The odds of life ever being formed are astronomical" but there are an even more astronomical number of planets. We are life right? So if we formed in one tiny part of the universe (it's like a drop of water in a sea), orbiting an ordinary star among trillions of stars, why couldn't life form in another tiny part of the universe?? And if you believe in God, why was he sooooo selective in choosing the ONLY place that life exists?? "As soon as you can prove it. I'll be fine with believing in aliens" Well, as soon as you can prove it, I'll be fine with believing in God. Side: Yes!
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