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True. False.
Debate Score:34
Arguments:25
Total Votes:37
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All men are born equal.

I have noticed that there are many among us (communists, liberals etc) who believe that all men are born equal of heart and mind. Do you?

True.

Side Score: 18
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False.

Side Score: 16

Equal Opportunity

Not Equal Outcome------------------------------------------------

| Side: true.
EvertonFC(10) Disputed
3 points

Equal Opportunity? The child born into foster care or to a poor drug addict mother is nowhere near equal to the one born into an upper middle class or wealthy family. This isn't even taking into account those born with defects and disabilities...

| Side: False.
0 points

You are describing equal outcome because despite the unfortunate circumstances, everyone should be treated equally.

Being born into a foster care or a wealthy family is the Ovary Lottery. Simple as that. Giving public education is the ultimate equal opportunity.

| Side: true.

I agree completely.

People are born equally, but this is capitalism and not socialism.

| Side: true.
1 point

I think that all men are created equal, but I also believe that they can become superior to their fellow man.

| Side: true.
1 point

While not necessarily equal, they born the same in the sense that they are babies, are born naturally, and will be given an opportunity to life.

| Side: true.
1 point

Of course........................................................................................yeah.

| Side: true.
1 point

In America ,yes. Born equal but not guaranteed equal outcomes. .

| Side: true.
1 point

No matter what happens all are equal and should remain that way for all time.

| Side: true.
1 point

It might not seem so, but everyone can be equally great. GM can bring out the best in people. Certain body types have assets that are greatly overlooked.

| Side: true.
2 points

Of course not! That's a ludicrous statement!

However, it may be so, depending on your definition of "equal". My definition of equal: "The Same" or "identical". Well, seeing as how not all people are the same - in fact, no person is the same as another person - I'd say right off that all men are not born equal.

Humans can be born with multiple legs, penises, arms, nipples, or they can be born without them. It's rare, but obviously I - being completely "normal" - am not "the same" as them. They are vastly different.

Mental capacity is another thing. You can be born with mental disorders, or without a mental disorder. You can be born with, say, Down's Syndrome. I am not equal to a person born with Down's Syndrome; I am superior. One can be born with microcephaly or even macrocephaly. One can even be born with hydrocephalus!

| Side: False.
Cicero(239) Disputed
2 points

Name one advantage a healthy newborn has over a newborn with Down's syndrome. I'm talking both of them straight out of the womb.

| Side: true.
TERMINATOR(6718) Disputed
2 points

Name one advantage a healthy newborn has over a newborn with Down's syndrome. I'm talking both of them straight out of the womb.

One has the potential for greatness and another may, with any luck, have the potential of reaching an IQ of 55.

| Side: False.
1 point

Philosophically? Yeah, sure.

Literally? Of course not. The genetic lottery is a bastard.

| Side: False.

The genetic lottery is a bastard.

Bastard? I've very rarely heard it said as such; typically, the saying goes: "The genetic lottery is a bitch."

| Side: False.
1 point

Semantics.

| Side: False.
1 point

Aside from genetics, one must take into account many factors - everything from race, gender, geographical location, what social class you are born into, and everything else that society as a whole might deem worthy of discrimination. Should all men be born equal? Absolutely - or at least I think so. But are they? If you are born mentally handicapped, it doesn't make you any worse as a human being - but as a human being, you will face many trials and tribulations that a person born with average intelligence would not normally face. Likewise, if you are born as an African-American in 1940s Georgia - or a Caucasian born in modern-day East St. Louis - you will find that, while born as something that would normally be considered equal, you will find that there are many places where you will not be considered equal

| Side: False.
1 point

Is being born to a millionaire in America or a homeless starving couple in Africa the same?

| Side: False.
1 point

There are all variety of diseases and defects man can inherit or have thrust upon him at birth.

Not in the least.

| Side: False.

Is a man born with Down's Syndrome the intellectual and physical equal of a man born in perfect health? I think not.

| Side: False.
1 point

That is the unfortunate luck of the Ovary Lottery.

Just like men born with a life full of hair compared to a man of baldness.

| Side: true.
1 point

That is the unfortunate luck of the Ovary Lottery.

Just like men born with a life full of hair compared to a man of baldness.

Exactly, hence men are not born equal.

| Side: False.
Troy8(2251) Disputed
1 point

I see a minor flaw in the debate title. You are not born a man, but rather, an infant.

| Side: true.
Cicero(239) Disputed
1 point

A newborn with Down's Syndrome has the exact same ability of a perfectly healthy newborn. Niether of them has yet developed any advantage over the other. They are both dependent on their parents, and they cannot think critically.

| Side: true.
1 point

A newborn with Down's Syndrome has the exact same ability of a perfectly healthy newborn.

That is not true.

| Side: False.


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