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Always Remember That Conservatives Are Liars

Conservatives want you to believe that you are only free if you let them piggy back off your hard-earned labour and rip you off for your fair share of the profits. They are worthless parasites who get fat suckling the teat of honest, fair workers. Most shamefully of all, these disdainful, overprivileged twerps vilify the very political heroes-- socialists -- who want to give people their own money back!! 

There is no bigger scum in the universe than a Conservative.

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This is probably the only honest description of the right I've read yet on this site. Job well done.

Side: Agree
Atrag(5191) Clarified
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So you're the same guy as the original post clearly and the account below.

Side: Agree
The_Kurgen(4) Disputed
1 point

So you're the same guy as the original post clearly

Clearly, you cannot substantiate your false allegation so you should probably just shut up with your paranoid conspiracy theories.

Side: Disagree
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Thank you for your post, Spartacus. I find Conservatives to be hateful and deceptive.

Side: Agree
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your welcome

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: Agree
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Judging by the sheer volume of Conservative shills who have turned up in this thread it is either true or a masterful troll. Either way I'm giving you the thumbs up.

Side: Agree
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They are.

And you knew this was coming...

Librerals lie, too.

And I can say that because I strongly believe the moment someone subscribes to a political ideology it's in their nature to a) only absorb what confirms that ideology and seek to discredit whatever doesn't, and b) to spin the news, because they assume their opponents are doing the opposite spin so somehow that makes any spin or hype they put on it themselves to be justifiable.

Side: Agree
Nomenclature(1174) Clarified
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And you knew this was coming...

Librerals lie, too.

Nice to see you completely ignored last week's warning about making false equivalences. Yes, some Liberals lie. But my mate Dave lies. Hitler lies. Therefore my mate Dave is as bad as Hitler? Really?

Conservatives have made lying a career path.

And I can say that because I strongly believe the moment someone subscribes to a political ideology

America has warped your mind completely and now you cannot apply reason to your own thought processes. You -- indeed, most Americans -- seem to be under the spectacularly bizarre and false assumption that the solitary alternative to right wing capitalism is left wing capitalism. If someone disparages Conservatives they must therefore be a Liberal.

Just what the hell do they put in your drinking water over there? Lithium?

Side: Agree
Grenache(5563) Disputed
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One of the advantages of understanding the true nature of this site is it's pretty much impossible for me to be rattled by you or anyone else. I come in, say what I want to say, leave when I want to leave, and meanwhile know that the majority of you are just a handful of [email protected] controlling multiple avatars in an attempt to win a bogus game.

As for false equivalencies, saying both sides do it is not the same as saying they 100% do it the same amount. They don't. I think conservatives lie more than liberals. But I especially think that moderates try more than anyone else to spot the lies from either side and not be tricked by them, which is my point, and that's valid.

Your last paragraph attacks me as part of the Americans who are polarized on this conservative/liberal [email protected] and is completely off base. I always and emphatically have professed to be moderate and independent, and you will see my posts demonstrating that all the time. In fact how could you read this original post in which I attack both those polar opposite sides and then turn around and accuse me of being one of them?

Side: Disagree
FromWithin(5475) Disputed
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Spoken by someone who voted for Hilary Clinton! The most proven corrupt leader of our time.

You don't care how corrupt they all are as long as they keep it legal to kill viable Special need's babies.

Your Liberal PC humanistic beliefs supercede the value of innocent life and corruption.

Side: Disagree
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Sounds pathetic

Side: Agree
StarTrekFan(11) Disputed
1 point

Sounds pathetic

Sounds like your buttocks are throbbing with hurt and pain.

Side: Disagree
Spartacus13 Disputed
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Yeah it does

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

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Anyone who claims not to be a liar, is a liar.

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Side: Agree
The_Kurgen(4) Disputed
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Anyone who claims not to be a liar, is a liar.

Can you even read English? Show me where anybody has claimed not to be a liar.

Side: Disagree
Antrim(999) Disputed
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The reason I spelt out in kindergarten terms the point that everyone is a liar was for shitheads who, like you, would fail to recognise the (not so) subtly hidden inference that only Conservatives are liars.

Having burnt that fact through your thick skull right through to the mad dog's shit housed within your cranium where everyone else has brains, can you now see the debate creator's cheap attempt to imply that only Conservatives are liars.

As your origins are probably represented by the shamrock I'll give you a fool's pardon, fool.

Are all you shamrock chewing dummies as brainless as you or are you an ''exceptional exception''?

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Most shamefully of all, these disdainful, overprivileged twerps

Well there goes the "Conservatives are poor, uneducated hillbillies" narrative..

Oddly, these "overprivileged" conservatives can't get jobs in Hollywood, the mainstream press or even academia. If that's "privilege", count me out.

Side: Disagree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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Well there goes the "Conservatives are poor, uneducated hillbillies" narrative..

Liar.

Side: Agree
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Well there goes the "Conservatives are poor, uneducated hillbillies" narrative..

The narrative you personally made up? Who the hell has said Conservatives are poor?

Gtfo you idiotic lying neo-Nazi dick.

Side: Agree
TzarPepe(323) Banned
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I'm not even sure what you mean by conservative. That doesn't really fit into my observation of the people I know who identify as conservative.

I'm not sure I trust these political people who push socialism.

Side: Disagree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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I'm not even sure what you mean by conservative.

Then why are you even in this debate? Go learn what a Conservative is and come back.

Side: Agree
TzarPepe(323) Clarified Banned
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Are you sure I am the one who needs to learn what a conservative is? I don't think you are talking about conservatives. Most conservatives I know do not fit the description of what you say a conservative is.

Side: Agree
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So are liberals. Liberals say the fetus isn't human....................................................................................

Side: Disagree
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Says the liberal who works at MC Donald's making more than police officer. I find it sad you are dissing the very party trying to cut taxes. I find it funny how the one making this debate is saying hard earned.

Last time I checked hard earned are those that do not pick pocket the government for all their money. Liberals only hate Trump because he is taking your EBT and any other government funding away from scums like you.

I quote "hard-earned labour and rip you off for your fair share of the profits."

Do you even know what a hard days of labor feels like? Sun burned, muscles are in need of a break, hard work is getting you damn hands dirty and actually doing something that makes a difference. Feeding someones obesity in not making a difference in the world. It is not giving someone a home, it is not giving anyone freedom.

Factory workers, construction workers, steel workers, welders, soldiers, doctors,Truckers and any other position where you actually give something to society other than a smile and here is your order have a nice, or hello how may I help you today... O phone not working well I need your SSN to access the account, anything other than being behind a desk with a degree or behind a counter serving burgers is a good hard days work.

We say we work hard but in reality we do not work hard we do nothing but the same thing everyday contributing nothing to the world. We say yeah today at work was tough we had this one customer that came in blah blah blah, that is not tough but it is to us because we have done nothing better with our life.

Ban me if you want but I am right. ~Nathan Allen LGBT activist fuck the plus.

Side: Disagree
TX43 Disputed
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Do you even know what a hard days of labor feels like?

Do you think that question justifies robbing the profit from people's hard labour and using it to fund your luxurious lifestyle?

Side: Agree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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Says the liberal who works at MC Donald's making more than police officer

I don't know whether you are lying deliberately or if you just have me confused with somebody else. Either way, I'm not a liberal and I've never worked at McDonalds. Believe it or not, if someone is not a Conservative then that does not automatically make them a Liberal, you damn dummy.

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h i

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Amarel(2375) Clarified
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Believe it or not, if someone is not a Conservative then that does not automatically make them a Liberal, you damn dummy

Believe it or not, if someone is a Capitalist then that does not automatically make them a Conservative.

Your OP is descriptive of your view of Capitalism. You're not from around here, so it makes sense that you won’t get all the labels right. Since you haven’t ever been to the US, what is your experience with American Conservatism? Or Capitalism for that matter? Or were you referring to Conservatives on your side of the pond?

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brontoraptor(11994) Disputed Banned
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Believe it or not, if someone is not a Conservative then that does not automatically make them a Liberal, you damn dummy

And...your IP address is Nomenclature's, and he claims to be a liberal. So are you lying as nomenclature or as spartacus? Either way you slice it, you're a liar.

Side: Disagree
TzarPepe(323) Clarified Banned
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In other words, we might as well chuck the physically disabled into furnaces because they contribute nothing to society.

Side: Agree
rogerfederer Disputed
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I find it sad you are dissing the very party trying to cut taxes.

The Conservatives have only ever been interested in cutting taxes for the wealthy, so you are being a revisionist.

Side: Agree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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Ban me if you want

I did ban you because you are telling lies and upvoting your own posts.

Side: Agree
Spartacus2 Disputed Banned
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You are worthless to this site you filthy faggot.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

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Conservatives want you to believe that you are only free if you let them piggy back off your hard-earned labour

1)99%+ of Conservatives do not own a business.

2)Libs are known for not being laborers.

3)Many business owners are liberals...

4)Socialism is "piggybacking off of others' labor" by definition. That's what Socialism is...

Side: Disagree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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1)99%+ of Conservatives do not own a business.

Liar.

2)Libs are known for not being laborers.

Liar.

3)Many business owners are liberals...

Irrelevant. False dichotomy. Still a liar.

Socialism is "piggybacking off of others' labor" by definition.

Opposite of the truth. Liar.

Side: Agree
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99%+ of Conservatives do not own a business

Stop making up your own statistics you typically dishonest Tory twat.

Side: Agree
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Always Remember That Conservatives Are Liars

Trust in the liberal media is at the lowest trust level in American history.

Just remember...liberal elites are molesting, raping, and sexually assaulting like mad as we speak, and the left couldn't care less. So that's how that works...

Side: Disagree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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liberal media

Liar. Disproved by Herman and Chomsky almost 30 years ago.

Side: Agree

Liar. Disproved by Herman and Chomsky almost 30 years ago.

Agreed. The propaganda model, right?

The media is overwhelmingly Conservative, and Conservatives accuse it of being liberal to frighten it into being more Conservative.

Side: Agree
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They are worthless parasites who get fat suckling the teat of honest, fair workers

Most "hard workers" aren't liberals...

Isn't it the left preaching for more social programs for the unemployed at the expense of the employed...

Side: Disagree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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Most "hard workers" aren't liberals...

Still trying to create a false dichotomy between left and right wing capitalists.

Liar.

Side: Agree
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Most "hard workers" aren't liberals...

More invented statistics?

Bronto, so far I've read through about seven of the fifteen replies you've made in this thread, and so far you've lied over ten times.

Side: Agree
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rip you off for your fair share of the profits

1)Isn't it the left wanting to tax us into oblivion?

2)Trump wants to give you more of your paycheck...and? The left is bitching and moaning like coyotes during a full moon. The point? STFU you clueless dumbass.

Side: Disagree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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Isn't it the left wanting to tax us into oblivion?

The left wants to tax the people who are getting fat off my labour.

Liar.

Side: Agree
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Trump wants to give you more of your paycheck

Trump is a socialist?

Ahahahahahahahahahaha!

Side: Agree
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There is no bigger scum in the universe than a Conservative

Wow. The 78 year old lady going to church singing "Jesus loves me" is worse than ISIS, Boko Haram, Stalinists, Nazis, Maoists, animal abusers, pedophiles and child rapists. Congrats on being an assclown with the brains of a cucumber.

Side: Disagree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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Wow. The 78 year old lady going to church singing "Jesus loves me"

A million dead in Iraq.

Liar.

Side: Agree
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Wow. The 78 year old lady going to church singing "Jesus loves me" is worse than ISIS, Boko Haram, Stalinists, Nazis, Maoists, animal abusers, pedophiles and child rapists.

Without a doubt. You are proving it right now by spamming Spartacus's thread with absurd lies about Conservatives being nice little old ladies, when the reality is they are fat parasitic bankers robbing society of all its hard work.

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the very political heroes-- socialists -- who want to give people their own money back

Socialists don't give people their money back. They give your money you earned to someone that didn't earn it. That's called theft and has nothing to do with fairness or equality.

When you get more of your money back, that's called Capitalism. It's why libs are screaming about Trump's current attempt to cut your taxes.

Side: Disagree
Spartacus(4) Disputed
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Socialists don't give people their money back

Shut up liar.

They give your money you earned to someone that didn't earn it

You just described capitalism, liar. I work 40 hours a week and the profit I generate goes to someone who didn't earn it.

I am putting you on the autoban list because everything you say is a lie.

Side: Agree
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Socialists don't give people their money back.

Exactly what else do you proclaim they want to do with all the money capitalists have stolen from people?

They give your money you earned to someone that didn't earn it.

So socialists want capitalism? Are you even listening to yourself? Stop turning reality upside down you crooked little thief.

That's called theft

Giving people the profit from their own labour back from the capitalists who stole it is theft?

Wow.

It's very simple you lying idiot. I work, and the profit my labour produces is enjoyed by someone else who didn't work. That's capitalism. That's theft.

Side: Agree