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Debate Score:161
Arguments:120
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Am I right to dislike white people?

The question is - Is it justified for me to dislike whitey?

Justify -http://www.thefreedictionary.com/justified - **To demonstrate or prove to be valid**

Dislike - http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dislike - **To regard with distaste**

Whitey - British or of British decent (Includes Americans but they don't play a direct part in this)

I am an Indian, Hindu, Male, 19.

Disclaimer - I do not HATE whites, or dislike them on a personal level, specially since a couple of my closest mates are white. But as an ethnicity, as a group of people.. would it be justified for me to dislike them?

 

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Side Score: 76
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No

Side Score: 85
christian(2) Banned
3 points

fuck yous all heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheehehehehheehheheheheheeheheheheheheheheehehehehhe lol! i'm just joking it dosent matter if ur a black or a white

Side: yes
3 points

This is not about just the past, what about the present. White people are making sure other white people are making it big. In the film industry, how many super famous black people do you see, compared to all the white. But, to me i think people make color the issue, they make color a reason to say on indidvidual is superior to another they give more opportunity to other races. They rejoice when toher races support stereotypes. That black people are dumb, that jewish people are greedy,

I honestly dont like people, we are so corrupt to hate and show bigotry are what we live to do. What about the curriculum of predomenately black schools vs. white. I am black but go to a white school, and my family go to black schools and they tell me that nobody cares about what they do and give little options. In my school they have 4 levels of cooking classes, they have accounting classes, tons of clubs to join, teachers that care. What also notice is that my teachers allow the black kids more freedom to misbehave and act a fool, but they make sure that their white children are acting prim and proper. Yes, you have the right to dislike any race, person or religion but hate and acting on hate is a totally different thing.

Side: yes
DoTheMath(3) Disputed
3 points

Well, I see a lot of white people in the film industry, but they're mostly Jewish. I'd agree that Asians are underrepresented in entertainment. I don't think it's okay (oh, I'm sorry, you asked "right") to dislike white people because they are the only majority population of a country that has ever bent over backwards so much for minorities. Other races from all over the world travel to America so they can live amongst and bitch about the white man. The white man plays thought police and mutes himself, suppressing history to hide the fact that most colonist slaves were white and that Africans owned white slaves before the trade even traveled to America (Hoffman). If one white man tries to defend himself, other white men shut him up, calling it "hate speech" and removing his feedom of expression. Some white men even call it hate speech to quote crime statistics, at which last count black men killed whites at a rate of 22 times the rate whites killed blacks (FBI's October Uniform Crime Reports of 1993, cited pg. 294 of "Why Race Matters" by Michael Levin). Through government programs and scholarships, there's already an annual white to black transfer of wealth in the billions, yet whites quake when blacks speak of reparations for an institution of slavery that whites suffered as well, and evidence indicates more (both). You dislike white people cause you perpetually think they owe you more, and I dislike them for refusing to learn their own heritage, including their own sufferings. Anyway, should they ever decide to, Charles Dickens wrote Oliver Twist, a story about an orphan in a workhouse who narrowly escapes becoming a chimney sweep (which deformed or killed 4-year-old boys, yet they still had to beg in the streets for food). If Scrooge's question "Are there no workhouses?" has them wondering what a workhouse is, they can read the following: "They Were White and They Were Slaves: The Untold History of the Enslavement of Whites in Early America" by Michael A. Hoffman II, "White Cargo: The Forgotten History of Britain's White Slaves in America" by Don Jordan and Michael Walsh, and "The White Slave: Another Picture of Slave Life in America" by Richard Hildreth. Here are some interesting links:

http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/Enlargement.aspx?id=IH171039&ext;=1

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-446654/Revealed-Britains-white-childslaves.html

Also, your white school sounds like no public school I've ever heard of. If you are comparing public and private school, rest assured most whites attend public. My high school certainly wasn't as privileged as yours! If this is a public school, first of all - where? and second, that's such a major violation of the constitution that you've got a multi-million dollar lawsuit on your hands. Write to John Quinones at MSNBC and report it. He'll be at your doorstep in a heartbeat, so I expect to see your situation on TV soon.

Side: No
2 points

You make some good points.

I actually agree with 90% of what you said there.

Side: yes
2 points

The main seperation on this issue is ethnics mentalitiy vs. whites mentality. White people say races/groups etc. shouldn't be dislike whereas ethnics are saying it's ok to be disliked.

Yes, you have the right to dislike any race, person or religion but hate and acting on hate is a totally different thing.

Exactly.

Side: yes
August(33) Disputed
1 point

I like some of what you were saying. You tried to back your thoughs up but what of the people who have no choice in what they are? Its not their fault, does that mean that you should dislike them for something they have no contorl over?

Side: No
sirius(367) Disputed
0 points

"In the film industry, how many super famous black people do you see, compared to all the white."- in the United States, there are a lot more white people than black people, therefore the amount of white superstars would be greater than black superstars.

"you have the right to dislike any race, person or religion"- That is a different issue. You may have the right to do something, but does that mean it is right? No. People can say whatever they want because of free speech, but does that mean everything that people say is good? Not at all. It is not right for you to dislike someone that you don't even know.

Side: No
2 points

cmon white people suck. admit it. Im white. We slave and exploit the world so we can keep our weight 50 pounds above healthy.

Side: yes
August(33) Disputed
1 point

okay, and other people haven't done that? Look at the bible a bit more. Enslavement has never just been a white thing

Side: No
2 points

Of course it's right. It's not very good to discriminate them. But as you being a human, it's morally right. Werther or not anybody likes it, it's your opinion to dislike a white person. It's not really racism, it's more of a "You just hate everybody equally" kind of thing... Possibly. Haha.

Side: yes
2 points

It makes no sense, but you're free to hate anyone you want =/

I can't tell you your hate is "wrong".

Personally, I think it's hilarious that people constantly (and subconsciously) sabotage themselves just to blame their misfortune on whom they hate.

Not really, it makes me sad =(

Side: yes
1 point

Due to history and current propoganda I would say it's justified for me to dislike whitey.

Side: yes
Tugman(749) Disputed
3 points

"A man who judges by th group is a pea wit."

Just because white people in the past did bad things does not mean every white person is bad. I am Irish Catholic and I know what the British did to my ancestors in Ireland I also know what Protestants in America did to my ancestors. I may dislike to people back then but I do not dislike there great great grandchildren because they had nothing to do with it.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

I didn't say white people are bad.. I'm saying it's ok for me to dislike them. You choose to only dislike the actual culprits... but their descendents are reaping the rewards built off rape, murder, manipulation, deaths, starvation etc... and 'your people' are being 'punished' because of the future they are currently in.

Side: yes

Well, wait a minute, what if they take the time to tan themselves real good ;)

Side: No
0 points

Then I congratulate them for understanding the inferiority of their skin complex :D

Side: yes
1 point

There's no right or wrong to whom you may dislike if you have a strong reason there are people that i dislike but none over petty things such as attitude or personality...i dislike these people because they live disgusting(not in a dirty sense)lives. and they are really unlikeable people

Side: yes
1 point

Sure you can dislike whoever you want.

However without a strong basis of reasoning it is kind of pointless to dislike someone based on the color of their skin.

Unless of course you are talking about the race as a whole, see I'm Mexican and I dislike black people. However I have plenty of black friends, but I'd have plenty more if they would all act like the friends I have. So I like some black people, just not nearly all.

Side: yes
0 points

I dislike whitey because everything is a strategy, how can I keep my satus quo. I know how! Says whitey. by getting my people to come over from other countries and take the hard working American jobs and give them to my relatives. While we Americans have to just sit still and trust our government to get us out of the mess they put us in the first place. I many times do we have to go through depressions to realize that whitey don't give a ---- about anyone but themselves. Selfish, wicked bastards!

Side: yes
2 points

It makes no sense to dislike people you don't even know.

It's ok to dislike individuals. It's ok to dislike a culture. But disliking a group of people based on their skin color or some other superficial thing? Not cool.

Side: No

You only say that because you are white ;)

I see how white people get all nervous when walking through the hood ;)

Side: No
jessald(1915) Disputed
1 point

That's just cuz ghettos are dangerous.

Also, a white person in the ghetto is in the out-group.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
2 points

It's ok to dislike a culture but not a group of people? That's a bit hypocritical

Side: yes
MKIced(2483) Disputed
2 points

He means it's okay to dislike a culture based on ideals but not alright to dislike a race based on skin color. For example, many of us don't like the Iranians because of their threat to the world, not because they practice Islam and have tan/brown skin.

Side: No

Every nation and every ethnicity have people who are dislikeable in them. How can you make such a blanket statement about "whitey" and think that it's right? It's not all right to dislike entire race based upon propaganda as it wouldn't be right if we did the same.

Side: No
1 point

I don't see what skin tone has to do in measuring a person's character (Martin Luther King). It's incredible how we as Humans overlook the complexity of this very human body and its organs, nerves centers, complex brain structure, etc. Why spend time discriminating about skin color and hating people that don't have the same complexion. But I'll tell you one thing, we are all the same in physiological and anatomical structure!

Reach within your Soul because that is truly who you are!

White to White, Black to Black the ignorant will oftentimes commit crimes against people who even look like themselves.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Well I don't dislike them due to propaganda... I dislike them because of fact. You should be allowed to do that right? Something based on fact?

Doesn't mean I dislike everything about them. lol. There's just more to dislike than to like.

Whiteys would obviously misinterpret it because they're being disliked.. but in the same way they may dislike Iranians or Arabs or Africans or Bigots or Racists or Communists... or w/e.. and it WOULD be ok for you to dislike a certain group of people for the right reasons.

Side: yes
August(33) Disputed
1 point

So say someone looked at me wrong or hurt me and they were a different race from me, does that mean its okay to hate that entire race?

Side: No
dacey(1036) Disputed
0 points

hey ass wipe :) me again. well as far as im concerned. now you can dislike me as a whitey, because, IN FACT, i abused you for your racial attack. SOMETHING BASED ON FACT?.ie;like my personal experience at the guest house and also out there in society.I live in the here and now and here and now you are calling us "whitey" and yes you are applying this label to white people, you say so yourself.and yes you also say that its because of what "Whitey" did to your anscestors. hmmmm well here and now let me say; yourve given me the right to hate, oops, dislike indians, oops, dislike you

Side: No
2 points

It's not right to dislike a group based on something they cannot control. It's okay to dislike the way that white skin looks, I suppose; that's just an aesthetic preference. But to dislike white people because of their skin is wrong, because they cannot control it, and because what is on the outside of someone does not determine their worth.

Side: No
2 points

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Side: No
1 point

hhaaheeehaaaaheee how fukn funny what a bloody excellent comeback.they should add that to a sound chip and insert it into indian-men bobblehead dashboard ornaments

Side: No
2 points

Its ignorant to say that you don't like an entire race. Would it make sense to say you don't like someone that you don't know? Its never justified for anyone to say that they don't like a certain race.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

It's so hard to explain these things to white people. I don't hate somebody I don't know. I don't actually hate anybody. I don't dislike anybody. Only the group itself. I don't dislike anybody on this site British.. but I dislike Brits.

Side: yes
2 points

No, It's not right to dislike people you don't know or because of their race. You can't judge someone you don't know. It wouldn't be right if someone disliked you for your race. You'd be quite affended.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Well I know a lot of Pakistanis don't like Indians. I'm not offended. I understand why. Even though originally they were in the wrong, after a few wars etc. you can't expect us to be sitting down having tea can you??

Side: yes
2 points

In a way, I kind of understand the negative views/feelings towards white people. I have read history books written by non-whites and learned a lot about the race that I belong to. White people have tried to dominate the world, basically, throughout history. White people even subjugated and enslaved other white people. I am of Irish decent and the Irish were discriminated against by the British and, when they came to US, the Americans.

There were signs posted at public establishments, such as restaurants and pubs, that read No Irish Allowed. Employers refused to hire them because they were viewed as "lazy and drunkards". The only fields that were really open to the Irish in the US were those invovling public service such as firemen and policemen. That was because they were dangerous jobs and didn't pay well. They were considered like 2nd class white people.

But I have relatives that are non-white including cousins that are of Latino and African decent. I was taught by my parents to judge people based on their character and not skin color, religion, etc. I have passed that lesson to my own children. With each generation comes a new understanding, as long as parents are willing to teach their children respect for all human beings.

In conclusion, I think with all the communication tools we have available to us, all people should be able to find some understanding about the people and cultures that surround them. They should be able to see that there are good and bad people in every race.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
0 points

Ohhh you understand right??

So Irish people have the right to hate English then??

Disliking them doesn't mean I don't think there's good and bad about them. Doesn't mean I don't respect them. It simply means I dislike them.

Side: yes
2 points

no let me explain:

if you close ur eyes and hold two different hands from two different races they feel the same.

if two people from two different races lose a loved one they both cry

we are all people with differences no matter if its skin color or hair color or gender or age or size. we have the same hopes and dreams and likes and feelings.

Side: No
2 points

What if there was a white man, similar in personality and looks (besides skin colour) to your black brother, for example.

Would you still dislike him then? Just because he is white?

You are only disliking white people because of their leaders. The majority. History. And propaganda.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Black brother huh?

You even read any of the posts?

Side: yes

no way just cuz we did something that was forced by complete fear they shouldn't be able to hate on the white people.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
0 points

REALY????

You were forced to do these things??

GTFO.

Side: yes
1 point

I would say not. Just like it would be wrong for me (an American, of European descent) to say I disliked Chinese people for communism, Indian people for pollution, African-Americans for living in socio-economic constraints, it is wrong for you to dislike a people for decisions not their own.

You could dislike past decisions of the English government, potentially. You could dislike corrupt officials, oppressive systems, etc. However, disliking the people is racist, and probably inaccurate. You seem to dislike policy decisions of a government, instead.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

I don't hate policy decisions of a government.

I'm looking at it from a birds eye POV. When I judge the Brits, you look at them now, their past and how they got here. I'm looking at it from my side. When you judge peoples (i.e. whites, blacks, browns etc.), you judge them as a whole... from their politics, technology, policies, laws, economy etc. everything, past and present.

So... as a Indian Hindu, looking at all of those things, should I not have reason to dislike them?

Difference with saying you dislike Chinese for communism etc. is that there wasn't terrible unjust and immoral acts done against your people. That's the biggest difference. However you're only looking at one thing. I'm looking at it all. I have reason to dislike the Chinese.. Pakistanis etc. You're telling me you think it's justifiable for me to dislike Pakistan but not Britain???

Side: yes
xander(438) Disputed
1 point

Britain, yes. White people, no. The policy decisions of BRITAIN< yes- just like you can hate the policy decisions of Pakistan. however, putting out a blanket statement is stupid, shortsighted, and pointless. Not all Britons are the same, just like not all Indians, Pakistanis, Americans, or Chinese people are the same.

I'm American, by-the-by, which i think i mentioned before, but that's not really the point here (other than I'm not, in fact, British).

Also, past and present behaviors aren't the same. Policy, culture, and viewpoints change of a half-century, and it's unfair to judge a nation on past deeds. For instance, i might call all Indians terrible people for enforcing a rigid and unjust caste sytem- but that wouldn't necessarily be fair. Because I think that social inequality is important, should I hate all people from India? No, because that would be idiotic.

Side: No
sirius(367) Disputed
1 point

"When I judge the Brits" ... "When you judge peoples"- that is the main flaw in your argument. You cannot judge a group of people you don't know without inaccuracy. Stop trying to justify the notion that people are right to dislike other people they don't know. Its pathetic and ignorant.

Side: No

As an Indian, I suppose it would be more apt to suggest that you are justified in disliking the white, British population, as opposed to "white people".

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Read the start. I defined whitey as British (in this context).

Side: yes
Mahollinder(893) Disputed
1 point

There is a large black population in the UK that also constitutes "British or of British descent", so I feel that further constraining the use of "whitey" is more appropriate.

Side: No
1 point

Disliking is a negative value judgment, which can turn into aggression. By lumping people into such vast categories as race, gender or ethnicity you simply show your own prejudice, and you are imprisoned by it, your perspective being skin deep. One would have hoped that history of 20th century with its explosion of both prejudice and information had taught us something. We are in this world, on this planet, interrelated and interdependent. Nationalism and racism are the things that cause us most harm.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

I think it'd be more accurate to say HATING can turn to aggression... But the rest of it is wrong. I don't go up to every white person I see and say he's the cause of suffering etc. cause he'll just stand there looking dumbfounded.. it's not true.

But as a group.... they are.

Nationalism and racism isn't things that cause us most harm... it's greed and violence. I don't really mind mild racism as long as there's tolerance side by side.

Side: yes
1 point

Wait wait wait... What.

Some Hindu you are, buddy boy.

:|

cough

Or you know, you get the message at least.

About hating a group of people.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Ehh??? I hate groups of people??

Can you read???

Side: yes
Warlin(1212) Disputed
1 point

I think you misread me. It's meant to be understood as "You're a terrible hindu if you dislike another group."

As in, any hindu who has a hate for another group is obviously terrible at being a hindu.

Not just you in particular.

Side: No
1 point

I judge people by the content of their character, NOT by the color of their skin.

--MLK jr.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Yeah I hear that... but I'm not judging people.. I'm judging peopleS. I'm not going up to each and every single person individually and saying what they did was wrong.. but as a nation...

Side: yes
DJSNuva1(78) Disputed
1 point

It doesn't matter if you are judging people or peopleS. The same principal still aplies; Judging people or peopleS on their color is, in fact, absurd.

Side: No
1 point

You can obviously dislike whoever and whatever you choose, as long as you keep it locked quietly inside your head. It just sounds like sour grapes to me. Whitey conquers the world, advances civilization, and everybody wants to pout about it.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Yes ok, whitey may have done what you said. But they also done a lot of shit. Based on the two, am I right to dislike them. IT's that simple. Tell me seriously. If someone gave you an icecream but punched you, you can choose whether or not you like them. I chose to dislike them because that punch was worse than giving an ice cream. It's that simple. You just can't understand it.

Side: yes
1 point

You have the right, but are you right?

No you are not. To Dislike ANY people based on their skin color is simply moronic.

There are idiots in every group. Dislike people on their actions and words, rather than their appearance

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

DUMBO!!

I AM disliking a group of people on their actions and words etc. etc.

Read what I've said. I don't dislike them because they've got lighter skin than me. I dislike a certain group of lightskinned people because of what they've done.

Side: yes
DJSNuva1(78) Disputed
2 points

Quite frankly you are an idiot. You say white people are wrong because of their actions -- And turn around and say it's not because they are white while in fact YOU ARE judging on color.

Side: No
1 point

Am I right to dislike Male Hindu Indians that are 19 years old?

i dont really, just trying to prove a point.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
0 points

If you have a valid reason then you can dislike whoever and whatever you want.

Side: yes
1 point

it's fine to dislike someone as long as you don't broadcast it, because then it'll cause problems.

but then again if someone said i am i right to dislike indians alot of people would have taken very badly to it.

You cannot dislike a race as a whole, how is it possible to dislike such a number of people without even knowing them? To dislike based on color or culture is racist.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
0 points

I'm not disliking people individually. I'm disliking the group. That means when I'm walking down the street and there are Brits.. doesn't mean I dislike them. But if you were to ask me what I thought about the British nation then I would say in general I dislike them because the negatives outweigh the positives. It's that simple. It's also opinion. With all those same factors, an American or Canadian or other people might like Brits as it didn't affect them.

So, to dislike ON colour or culture is probably racist. To dislike A colour or culture based on facts etc. is NOT racist.

Side: yes
1 point

No that's silly it all should only matter on the persons character and should have nothing to do if their white, black or any other ethnicity.

Side: No

HELL NO FUCK THAT IF ANYTHING WHITES SHOULD DISLIKE BLACKS FUCK SLAVERY IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!!!!!!! I AM IRISH AND MY ANCESTORS WERE SLAVES AND YOU DON"T HEAR ME ASKING FOR REPARATIONS!!!!!!!!!

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Lol.. this has nothing to do between whites and blacks. But I do agree about the double standards shows towards black people...

Side: yes
1 point

WHO THE HELL CARES!!!! You want to hate somebody, go ahead. Whatever the reason. It is your life. Do with it as you please. If you want to spend the rest of it harboring on the past misdeeds of a few limey bastards, go right ahead buddy. Again, WHO THE HELL CARES!!!!

Side: No
1 point

The ideologies and general culture of white-skinned people is different for different groups/ locations. I don't think you've interacted with every group of white people. As such, you probably shouldn't discriminate against a white person on the basis of their skin exclusively.

It may be a general indicator of their social upbringing if you can ascertain where they grew up and correlate that to the personalities of white people in a specific area (with a large enough sample). That applies to everyone, of course, but if you've (hypothetically) found that you dislike all white people in a certain area, well... you know. Go nuts.

Side: No
1 point

Just because some one is a certain race doesn't mean its okay to hate them. What about their personalities? Like sure, there are those annoying redneck people, but there are always those cute little girls that have a dream. They can't choose their race. It's the personality that makes it okay to dislike some one. A race does not completely define the person.

Side: No
0 points

No one has even tried to dispute Mr.King yet --

"We judge the nominees not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Side: No
1 point

^-^ True true. That's what I was trying to say. I completely agree.

Side: No
0 points

climb back on the dashboard you fukn wobble head.havent you got anything else to add kindi boy ..im suprised.

Side: No
0 points

and as for your fukn debate asshole and telling people to read what youve posted i have and you ought to as well maybe youll see how pathetically hypocrytical you are!!!!!!!! people excuse me for responding with backlash in this debate but i for one am fed up with people like this shit stirring head fuk who thinks the world owes him.im fed up with copping the brunt of shit for something that took place before i was even born. im sick of people like this asswipe who IS racist. thanks to wankers like kinda i have gone from being non -racist to racist and although i say this i do not directly apply it to those people who dont first offend me with racial slurs. but for the sake of my arguement in this debate i will put this one man accountable for all the ass-hole indians ive met

Side: No