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Democracy IS hard to keep Good bye, Sweet America
Debate Score:36
Arguments:27
Total Votes:46
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America - the END of an era

Democracy IS hard to keep

Side Score: 12
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Good bye, Sweet America

Side Score: 24
1 point

Democracy is IMPOSSIBLE to keep if we allow an authoritarian Arian to govern U.S.! Especially one who kicks our allies while he embraces our enemies! One who disregards (and investigates), our intelligence patriots while he puts TRUST in our enemies! One who disregards an ATTACK on our democracy and investigates our defenders for investigating VERY suspicious activity … including a President who parties with our enemies in the Oval Office and gives them confidential information! A President who puts in place "secretaries" who have sworn to destroy the offices they are given! A President who wraps himself around the Flag while he calls Nazis "very nice people"! While he disguises himself as a "Christian"!

"When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the Flag, and carrying a cross" [Sinclair Lewis]

HE, (IT),has arrived!

Side: Democracy IS hard to keep
outlaw60(14245) Disputed
2 points

DOOM and GLOOM AL is WHINING again today !!!!!!! CRYING about NAZIS and SPEAKING nothing more than the TIRED TALKING POINTS it is told SPEAK !!!!!!!

AL how is it you will EXIST tomorrow with all the FEAR you have ???????????

Side: Good bye, Sweet America
2 points

Democracy is IMPOSSIBLE to keep if we allow an authoritarian Arian to govern U.S.

1)

Pointing out skin tone rather than just the ideas coming from the person is unethical relative to actual liberal standards.

2)

Give us actual examples of Trump being "authoritarian".

Side: Good bye, Sweet America
2 points

Especially one who kicks our allies while he embraces our enemies!

Define "our allies" objectively.

Define "our enemies" objectively.

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2 points

One who disregards (and investigates), our intelligence patriots

They were involved in illegal and unethical activity relative to the law and actual liberal standards.

Side: Good bye, Sweet America
1 point

who disregards an ATTACK on our democracy

His attacks on Russian are unprecidented.

and investigates our defenders for investigating VERY suspicious activity …

Such as?

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outlaw60(14245) Disputed
1 point

DUMMY we can see you support SOCIALISM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harry Sinclair Lewis (February 7, 1885 – January 10, 1951) was an American novelist, short-story writer, and playwright. In 1930, he became the first writer from the United States to receive the Nobel Prize in Literature, which was awarded "for his vigorous and graphic art of description and his ability to create, with wit and humor, new types of characters." His works are known for their insightful and critical views of American capitalism and materialism between the wars.

Side: Good bye, Sweet America
-1 points

Everyone talks about Fascism - define exactly what Fascism is.. does being a Pagan and having my tax money used to support the illegal state of Israel - does that define fascism? Does being childless and being forced to pay for schools and other people’s brats - is that Fascism? Is it Fascism that I have to take my time off from work in celebration of the Bible holidays? Is it Fascism that most all our laws correspond with Biblical laws - is that fascist?!

Is the fact that I cannot walk down the street naked - is that fascist?!

Get a grip - we are not really totally free!

I support NATIONALISM. I don’t really want it tied to the cross

But I don’t want even MORE extreme religions moving in - after all, Protestant Xtians can relate to secularism unlike more extreme theocratic people of the world

Side: Democracy IS hard to keep
1 point

Everyone talks about Fascism - define exactly what Fascism is

It's a right wing authoritarian political ideology in which the state relies upon nationalism and populist political propaganda to push its isolationist agenda.

does being a Pagan and having my tax money used to support the illegal state of Israel - does that define fascism?

Paganism is a religion and has nothing to do with fascism either way. American politicians who support apartheid in Israel are definitely sympathising with the tenets of fascism, but getting them to that stage has been a slow process. Initially, they simply believed that Israel was a way to spy on the Middle East and have some form of influence in the region. They have held onto that belief throughout, even as their own centre ground has been dragged to the right ever since their relationship with Israel began.

Does being childless and being forced to pay for schools and other people’s brats - is that Fascism?

No, that's tax buddy. Tax has been around since the very first day somebody decided they are in charge. It transcends all political ideology because it's really just about greed and power.

Side: Good bye, Sweet America
3 points

The doom and gloom mongers are made up entirely of life's resentful losers who hope if they relay their own black despondency narrative incessantly they may be able to infect the society in which they live with some of their own depressing, death wish negativity.

Hey, if you want to commit suicide off you go. But leave the rest of us to continue maintaining the United States of America as the greatest industrial and military power on earth and the leader of the free world.

Side: Good bye, Sweet America

You continue to push this narrative and also continue to avoid telling us how or why.

We always defended the border. We always vetted people. We always respected the flag. We always assimilated foreigners. It's the new left that is the new denominator.

We are holding the exact positions the Democrats held for decades, and having to protect normal Democrat Party positions from the new bastardized Democratic Party.

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AlofRI(2646) Clarified
1 point

A bit misworded in fact.

WE are holding the exact positions the Democrats held for decades and having to protect normal Democratic Party positions from the new bastardized GOP. There are NO Republicans left, just the "Cut TAX and SPEND" Trumplicans.

Side: Democracy IS hard to keep
1 point

Your narrative is so blatantly false that even influential, hardcore Democrats don't agree with you, and multiple, influential, hardcore Democrats are literally who I got the term "bastardization of the Democratic Party" from.

https://youtu.be/-fEAPcgxnyY

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/alan-dershowitz-i-wont-let-the-democrats-steal-my-party-from-me? amp=true

https://youtu.be/Tq86Beh3T70

https://youtu.be/n-zGAygD7c

Side: Democracy IS hard to keep
1 point

There are NO Republicans left

My positions have literally not changed since I was a child. The same with those around me. The Republican Party moved left on gay marriage, and marijuana. The Democrat Party moved to using violence to stop speakers from speaking, started defending illiberal foreign ideologies who hate liberalism, and has scrapped the concept of judging a man by the content of his character rather than the color of his skin through a brand of identity politics that has regressed race relations..

Side: Democracy IS hard to keep
outlaw60(14245) Disputed
0 points

The SOCIALIST as it types is all about a TOTALITARIAN GOVERNMENT and the IDIOT wants to call those on the RIGHT a bunch of NAZIS !!!!!!!!!! ROTFFLMMFAO !!!!!!!!!

IDIOT your TOTALITARIAN VIEWS are very TRANSPARENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Democracy IS hard to keep
outlaw60(14245) Disputed
0 points

Pay attention to your PET NIGGER there AL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2014/09/04/if-president-obama-told-the-truth-about- the-economy/#3877d4c278cd

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/economy-budget/312056-obama-became-most-fiscally-irresponsible-president-in

By the time Obama leaves office in January, he’ll have nearly doubled the already massive national debt, adding nearly $10 trillion since 2009. Even more appalling, this figure means Obama will have added almost as much national debt as every other president and Congress before him—combined.

Side: Democracy IS hard to keep
excon(12061) Disputed
1 point

You continue to push this narrative and also continue to avoid telling us how or why.

Hello bront:

My friend Al summed it up best by quoting Sinclair Lewis..

When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the Flag, and carrying a cross

excon

Side: Democracy IS hard to keep
1 point

When Fascism comes to America

Except that Fascism was created by Giovanni Gentile, a left wing Communist who literally said that he fashioned Fascism after left wing Communism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni Gentile

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Giovanni-Gentile

It will be wrapped in the Flag, and carrying a cross

Your problem being that the Mayor Pete and Nancy Pelosi are using Christianity to try to condemn anyone who doesn't agree with their leftist ideology.

Sinclair Lewis.

Based on the timeframe of Lewis' writings compared to your own statements, either Lewis was a right wing mind warning against left wing authoritarianism, or you blatantly lied when you said there was a party "switch".

Side: Good bye, Sweet America
outlaw60(14245) Disputed
1 point

SUPER STUPID wrote this -Hello bront:

My friend Al summed it up best by quoting Sinclair Lewis..

When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the Flag, and carrying a cross

excon

Now what the IDIOT typed goes against it's SO CALLED MILITARY DUTY !!!!!

SUPER STUPID when you were in the MILITARY did the AMERICAN FLAG mean FASCISM to you ????????????????/

Side: Good bye, Sweet America
1 point

My friend Al summed it up best by quoting Sinclair Lewis..

When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the Flag, and carrying a cross

Now, let us examine the reality of your comment.

In 1930, it would have been highly irregular and social suicide to attack Christianity, thus? This was obviously a warning to look out for people claiming to be Christians who don't really follow it. You know...people who wave the word in judgement, but exhibit qualities the Bible warns are not really Christianity.

The Bible often starts dialogue with the line, "do not be deceived" etc, and then telks you what the deception will look like.

Colossians 2:8

8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.

Romans 16:18

18 for such people do not serve our Lord Christ but their own appetites. They deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting with smooth talk and flattering words.

Side: Good bye, Sweet America
1 point

LMMFAO !!!!!!!!!! SUPER STUPID it is the END OF THE WORLD because you IDIOTS chose the wrong PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ! Must suck to wake up in your POOR PITIFUL WORLD each and everyday because you LITTLE WHINING BITCHES did not get your way !

Side: Good bye, Sweet America