I doubt we're not in the top 20 anymore Pyggy but outside of Muslims and Jews I'd bet we're at least 3rd! We are hated because we have our nose in everyone else's business and because we are brash, cocky and have attitude. I remember as a child upon being in Germany for my first visit back after we emigrated, my mother asked me to speak German when we were out in public because Americans were so despised there. To them we were just a bunch of loud mouthed unmannerly louts who cared nothing for the German culture or their people.
144 days ago | Tagged As: agree
yes unfortunately many country's hate America even some Americans hate America. I love my country America home of the brave most people want in but many people hate America probably a jealousy thing
127 days ago | Tagged As: agree
WHATS TO BE JEALOUS OF? BRAVERY OR ARROGANCE? PERSONALLY I WILL JUST STAY HOME ...THANKS FOR THE INVITE. Not saying you dont have a beautiful country. I have met quite a few Americans,just about all have been lovely people, tho they tend to have this air of arrogance about them or maybe thats just the "AMERICAN WAY"
7hrs 20mins ago | Tagged As: agree
Just out of curiosity what makes us so brave?
127 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
America the nation that rose out of farmers with rifles and clever tactics we beat at the time the strongest army and nation in the world with a little support from France of course
127 days ago | Tagged As: agree
It was not as simple as farmers with rifles and a tiny bit of support with France against the strongest army in the world. It's understandable that you have a propagandized, glorified view though seeing as you were raised in America. And many other countries have rebelled and liberated themselves, but they are not the "land of the brave."
127 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
then how simple was it America fought for freedom as did many other nations but i know my history and i know America had little support then and now. France just wanted to humiliate england thats why they helped
127 days ago | Tagged As: agree
America put the first man on the moon and started the first real democracy
127 days ago | Tagged As: agree
I'm not sure how having the technological capabilities for short space flight makes us brave. And actually we do not have a true democracy we have a representative democracy. There is also evidence of ancient democratic systems. And you forgot one little thing. For a long time our country has only allowed wealthy white men to vote. Eventually voting rights were extended to everyone, but women could not vote until 1920. Universal suffrage is one of the characteristics of a true democracy, so America is definitely not the first.
126 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
Aah, the 'not that simple' argument. Typical for people that try to bring town anyone who is patriotic. How are the people that have fought and fight for your freedom not brave? Of course not every american is brave. But show some respect for the people that made your freedom happen. Because that can't happen without incredible bravery. It's understandable that you have a propagandized, glorified view that being patriotic isn't the cool hip thing to do. Really quite sad.
127 days ago | Tagged As: agree
I didn't say they weren't brave. I was just saying that the American view of the Revolutionary War is pretty biased. Britain had significant disadvantages. The distance between the two continents was extremely significant. Supplies and soldiers had to travel by ship across the Atlantic Ocean. This was about a two month voyage. This also meant that information commanders in Britain received information about battles two months outdated. And by the time their orders were received on the battle they were at least two months more outdated. So all of the orders the British troops received were based upon on the conditions of the war four months ago. Americans had the home court advantage. They had access to supplies very close to battle fields. Also the colonies were extremely spread out and decentralized. Whenever territory was captured by the British it did little to affect the overall fighting potential of the colonists. Also the British had to leave troops to secure the area because as soon as they left it could be easily retaken. They had a large enough force to destroy the colonial army, but not enough to occupy the entire colonies as well. Once France and Spain entered the war this problem was exacerbated even further. The British also did not use harsh methods of suppressing the rebellion because they were attempting to maintain the allegiance of the Loyalists. I am not saying that the rebels were not brave, but they did not just win simply because Americans are inherently braver and superior to British which is what many Americans imply when they talk about the Revolutionary War. And my view is not based upon propaganda my view is based on learning history from sources other than a fifth grade American History textbook.
127 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
"I didn't say they weren't brave." Then what where you saying? America as a whole is not brave? "Britain had significant disadvantages." You are telling me this!? That is obvious. And I never said otherwise. "I am not saying that the rebels were not brave, but they did not just win simply because Americans are inherently braver and superior to British which is what many Americans imply when they talk about the Revolutionary War." I have never heard anyone say that bravery alone won us anything. You are seriously pulling stuff out of your butt. "And my view is not based upon propaganda my view is based on learning history from sources other than a fifth grade American History textbook." Well thats a start, but you still have a lot to learn. (; I have a feeling that war info was copied and pasted. But I'm sure you wouldn't do that. (=
127 days ago | Tagged As: agree
No I was saying that it is stupid to call America "the land of the brave" because there is not reason why were are exceedingly more brave than any other country. "I have never heard anyone say that bravery alone won us anything." I wasn't saying you did, but locke223 said something like this. You interceded in an ongoing discussion. No it wasn't copied and pasted. I used wikipedia as a source so I should have credited it, but the words were all my own.
127 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
"No I was saying that it is stupid to call America "the land of the brave" because there is not reason why were are exceedingly more brave than any other country" That's not stupid. Who says we are more brave than anyone els!? We value bravery. "I wasn't saying you did," Good. "but locke223 said something like this. You interceded in an ongoing discussion." He never said that either. And I know what I did. "No it wasn't copied and pasted. I used wikipedia as a source so I should have credited it, but the words were all my own." So you've gone from a 5th grade textbook to Wikipedia. A step up! You are progressing!
Just out of curiosity what makes us so brave? America the nation that rose out of farmers with rifles and clever tactics we beat at the time the strongest army and nation in the world with a little support from France of course If you call a place "the land of the brave" that means that people in that region are more brave then normal. Otherwise it is an incorrect distinction. If every country is equally brave, why call one the land of the brave? Me "Just out of curiosity what makes us so brave?" Locke223 "America the nation that rose out of farmers with rifles and clever tactics we beat at the time the strongest army and nation in the world with a little support from France of course" He said the fact that we won the Revolutionary War proves that we are exceptionally brave. Your insults don't even make sense. I was not citing a 5th grade textbook I was accusing locke223 of getting all of his information from a 5th grade textbook. I know it is tempting when you are losing an argument, but instead of attacking my source(ad hominem) attack my information. I said that the British had to send supplies, troops, and information across the Atlantic Ocean. Disagree? Sailing across the Atlantic Ocean took about two months. Disagree? The colonies were very decentralized. Disagree? French and Spanish troops added more strain to Britain's military. Disagree? I am going to assume you agree with all of my propositions because I don't think you are that irrational, so would you not then agree that there were many disadvantages for Britain during the American Revolutionary War? And do you not then agree that the victory in the American Revolutionary War is not an exceptional successful rebellion?
127 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
Although I don't agree that we ought to be, we do have a pretty bad rep around the world. And who can blame them? Our foreign policy in most regions has been to support whatever government will make our economy strongest, with no concern whatsoever as to how that government is treating its citizens. We kill innocent people. We torture and deny trials in a country founded on liberty and justice for all. We have undeserved influence in the world arena as the world's only superpower, and yet we blow the responsibility by being self-centered jackasses. Of course, this is all an argument against America, not Americans. Americans, on the other hand, are often ill-educated couch potatoes who can't find Iraq on a map and rarely know about the goings-on of the rest of the world. And though we share some of the blame for why this is, the media is largely responsible, by using scare tactics and infotainment to take up news hours, rather than fulfilling their duty to actually inform about events that matter. I would also place fault on the public school system, which does not teach students critical thinking skills, but instead teaches them to memorize and repeat.
126 days ago | Tagged As: agree
I was at first going to post disagree but that high five fest over there would have just kept my argument on the bottom. So, i'm posting here. And why not? the points don't matter anyway. I'm pretty sure that Muslims are currently the most hated people in the world, and America isn't even the top 20 of highest Muslim population (which is weird since Obama said that we're the fifth most Muslim populated nation... lulz). But, there is no country that is called Islam. Just countries that have it. In fact, they hate people so much that they have to separate Muslims between two hateful sects, LOL!!!19 I'm pretty proud to be an American. I think the main problem that people MAY have with us is that America was born from a rebellious movement, so we naturally hate government takeover. Which is so different from Western Europe which is pretty cool with government running most things. Hell, it was considered Extremely Right Wing to be for Private Property. They even consider Capitalists to be a bunch of Anarchists. But no, Americans aren't hated. They really just have a problem with our style. We're cocky, too. Just because we have the most kick ass military along with a major takeover in business. Seriously, McDonalds and Oreos runs a Monopoly in other countries. And, our movie about Western European history (300) is far more successful than any movie Western Europeans have ever created.
145 days ago | Tagged As: agree
Im the last person to start defending religion of any kind but saying that about Islam and Muslims is similar to me branding all Americans as bible-belt-doctor-killing-anti-gay-westboro-church-nuts You should go to the middle east. They´re are alot more like you and me than you might (and do) think I dont mind people being religious as long as they do it behind closed doors and dont come near my children
145 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
I actually didn't attack Muslims in general, i was just attacking the ones who bomb women and children. You know, the ones who are separated into hateful sects. and the only reason why i brought up Muslims is because they are the most hated people in the world RIGHT NOW. and why should religious people do it behind closed doors? Why not on a sidewalk or at a rally? Right to organize a protest. So what if they have a religious protest? And this is a free country (America, don't know where you're from, so sorry) so anyone can talk about any religion they want in the public or private sector.
145 days ago | Tagged As: agree
Ok (about the muslim thing) the reference of "behind closed doors...and away from my children" is what religious people say about gays. It was a half-serious joke
145 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
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It's odd that I'm disagreeing with this one, since I'm usually the last person to be "proud to be an American," and whenever I'm overseas I just tell people I'm from Sweden, but I was hanging out with a British guy last week in Stockholm who made a rather good point about Americans. He said that all the Americans he's met have been very kind and very cool, and that the ones who bother traveling to places other than, say, Cancun are the ones who are actually worth meeting. And also that it's interesting to him how Americans are so chill, and yet the government is so... not. I thought they were some noteworthy points. Hate the government, not the people, maybe?
145 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
I have read a few of your posts and its seems your mothers swedish influence has had a beautiful affect on you as an American.
5hrs 55mins ago | Tagged As: Disagree
I agree. I have traveled allot (in Europe and Asia) and never met an American that I didn't like in those travels. Its like you said, Europeans dislike more Americans they see on banal reality shows and shows like Heraldo etc rather than Americans traveling around the world. George Bush (older and younger) did not help either (Never met an European who understands why he won not one but two elections) In china after Obama won you see Americans taking the Canadian pins of their bags and putting an Obama pin instead Word to the wise: Tell people you are Canadian if you feel the need to not give away your nationality - nobody (in Europe at least) would believe an American saying he´s Swedish
145 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
I am Swedish! It's my first language and my native country. I'm in Sweden right now. It's my home. I generally tell people I'm a Swede living in New York. (Which, I suppose, is essentially what I am.)
145 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
Ok.... thought you where American.... word then to other vise ones : )
145 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
I would love to know who downvoted this. I mean, really? The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.
127 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
I think that Jews and Israelis are. I mean, everyone hates us. We get blamed for everyone's problems and we get yelled at for defending ourselves against Arab attacks! Who could be more hated than us?!
145 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
lulz, you're right. Everyone hates the Jews (all the radical groups, at least). But regular people hate Muslims. Not rational people, but regular people.
145 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
Unfortunately many Jews and Israelis seem to have a victim complex and think that anyone who criticizes Israel is automatically an anti-Semite. The Holocaust was a terrible event in human history and I don't mean to diminish its significance, but as horrible as it was it does not mean that Israel is exempt from criticism of its actions. Also most people are not upset with Israel for defending itself; most people are upset because of the blatant abuse of human rights that Israel so brazenly commits. And you are not really one to complain about hate when you say "We shouldn't feel sorry for [civilians of Gaza]."
145 days ago | Tagged As: agree
They actually just ignore human rights when it comes to defending their country. They're more concerned about the lives of their citizens than the livelihood of the enemy. Not defending their actions (which is for another debate), just pointing out the reasons for their actions.
144 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
I understand that they only ignore the human rights of people who aren't citizens, but it doesn't matter. You can't indiscriminately kill civilians. I understand that war will always be a reality and that by trying to engage the enemy some civilians will die. However Israel bombed a school in the recent invasion of Gaza. And they refused to let the Red Cross in to provide medical assistance to wounded and dying civilians. Regular citizens in Gaza are not Israel's enemy.
144 days ago | Tagged As: agree
Like I said, I'm not going to debate about it here; there are about 50 million other debates on this site about that. I was just pointing out the facts.
144 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
The Jews/Israelis/Israelites are not needlesly paranoid they REALLY ARE hated. The trouble is, they don't seem to understand why. Americans are not so much hated as distained. We all love everything about France, except the French. South Africa is a beautiful country, shame about the people in it. Old, but modified joke. The American prays on his knees and preys on his neighbours. The Jew knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. The Irishman will fight to the death of someone else for what he believes in. The English are a nation of self-made men--which absolves the Almighty of a dreadful responsibility. Other joke In Heaven: The police are British The Motor Mechanics are German The cooks are French The Lovers are Italian and Everything is organised by the Swiss. In Hell The Police are German The Motor Mechanics are French The cooks are British the lovers are Swiss and Everything is organised by the Italians
131 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
I don't get the italian reference for hell but i do understand the swiss one for heaven.
130 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
Oh, no, I doubt that. If we're hated, it's probably because the people wish they were here. (Which is something I hear over and over, so....must be true). However, I can name 2 ethnicities I dislike almost as a whole, more than Americans, but I'll keep it to myself. :-)
145 days ago | Tagged As: Disagree
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