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Debate Score:8
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Challenge Debate: Anarchism vs Minarchism (Absence of Government vs Minimal Presence)

This will be a debate regarding which is the superior outlook based on any reasoning at all.

Del1176(4974)

Anarchism

Side Score: 3
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atypican(4875)

Minarchism

Side Score: 5
1 point

When it comes to Anarchism versus Minarchism one must ask themselves, is it better to be gay or borderline Bisexual homo? Well, think of what causes less confusion and hassle.

1. Bartering system versus unrestricted capitalism.

Money makes us think that some things are worth more than other things simply because the random state of competition between corporations of the industry have left that price as the most suitable to compete with. We assume a Mac is worth more than a Linux, a Ferrari is worth more than an el-cheapo Honda and that A Burger at Wendy's is worth more than one at Mcdonald's.

Now whilst all three comparisons have validity if one analyses them, they pose a huge issue economically. We are forcing the 'poor' to raise their children with 'poor' products and education. Then when these 'poor' children leave their shitty schools they end up not being able to go anywhere near Ivy League and hence end up at a minimum wage job usually. This originates from the fact that whilst most A* candidates were spoilt brats getting spoon fed tutors and Extra-curricular left right and centre without having to earn a cent for themselves, these poor kids were having to handle a part-time job, a hectic household and a rough school social life whilst still having to do their best to get the best grades they could in such dire circumstances.

In an anarcho-communist society, the urge to succeed is respected by the fact that ANYTHING you can do or produce is worth something to someone and it's up to you to find a way to get what you want with it.

Since everyone can barter with whatever talent they can use, their children end up getting a fair chance in life and then, truly, a genius of ANY background will shine through the education system. BUT if there was an economy where exploitation of the poor could occur then no such fairness is possible, ESPECIALLY if the government doesn't step in to force the rich to help the poor out.

2. Minarchism is a cowardly attempt at Anarchism

Minarchists want total freedom for all but are afraid to have a system where the people have to think for themselves to achieve this and instead just want an authoritative figure to be there but sit on its lazy ass and do nothing.

Anarchists want the freedom to be run by the people, for the people and then be directly benefitting each and every individual in society at once.

Side: Anarchism
atypican(4875) Disputed
1 point

I think I'll just have to admit that I don't have what it takes to best you in an argument. It's clear that you have spent a great deal more effort thinking about this topic than me, and though I still think that politically, the problem of authority can only be mitigated as opposed to eliminated, I am convinced that I am not equipped to persuade you, or appreciate reasoning skills as advanced as yours.

Side: Minarchism
Del1176(4974) Clarified
1 point

Sarcasm?!

Side: Anarchism
1 point

To start out, I'll ask:

Do you accept the premise that any formal, informal, agreed upon, or forceably imposed, socio-political arrangement is a form of government?

If not, I challenge you to explain why.

Side: Minarchism
Del1176(4974) Clarified
1 point

If you are referring to the kind of government I am then they are defined as the group of people with the authority to govern a country or state; a particular ministry in office.

This would not exist unless we specifically assigned only a small group of people within the community to be entitled to have " any formal, informal, agreed upon, or forceably imposed, socio-political arrangement"

But if EVERYONE was involved int his agreement and had no power to impose it on others who disagreed with it and perhaps lived outside of that community then no, there is no government.

Supporting Evidence: Dictionary (oxforddictionaries.com)
Side: Anarchism
1 point

Since you admit that you ARE a kind of government then I have already established that you are only opposed to certain forms of government and not government itself.

Side: Minarchism