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Anarchy as a government
What do you think of anarchy as a government? Some trolls may have ruined the idea for you, but if, and yes this is a very big, most likely unlikely if, but if people could be respectful of one another, and not kill or steal from one another, how woulf anarchy sound?
By the way I'm using this definition: Absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.
Not the one that means a state of disorder.
The picture is a tease. This is the stereotype for anarchy.
Well you have my opinion on it. I feel most people are not civilized because it's the law, but instead the law is shaped to most people's sense of civility. I added the major hypothetical that people don't steal and kill, so there's no need for a police force. People simple handle their discrepancies, one on one.
I feel that if anarchy did happen, things would go kind of Indian. Not trying to be racist. I mean, people would choose to be with strong charismatic leaders (chiefs) and bartering would return. There would also likely be formations of clans and so on. I really don't know, this is just my guess.
I support your opinion. I find that to be the beauty of anarchy, you never know what will happen. Bartering more than likely will be reinstituted since no government is regulating currency flow, and I don't find this to be bad. I think it'd be best. Avarice would probably be all but eliminated, people would only be able to trade what they don't need for what they do need.
As for the clans popping up, do you mean like groups of people getting together to form protection groups? I think something like that might happen also, but (mind my coldness) it would eliminate weakness, as weakness would most likely die.
Not really protection groups but more like community based groups. Example: seven families get along really well together so they live near each other. A new family comes along but isn't liked and so is asked to leave the area. I hope this is a clear example of what I mean.
Right, anarchy is not a government, it is a society absent of government authority. How can anarchy even be a political ideal if politics involves the state?
You have most likely been brainwashed into believing government has to be of a group of people, that the people of society can't see or touch. That is wrong.
To govern is to control, influence, or regulate. In an anarchic government that would be literally the people, no overseers, controlling, influencing, and regulating themselves.
All caps is usually a sign of shouting, and when people shout, I take it as they don't want to listen so yes, I ended it because you chose not to listen.
Caps are only used as an expression in typing, not in actuality in a conservation, so impossible to use capitals as an analogy to shouting because people don't use capitals when shouting in reality.
Actually, you did make assumptions with this statement "Because you actually were brainwashed by your government to think you need people watching over you?"
I wasn't angry, I was expressing my frustration towards your assumptions.
On other sites, I often see caps used in places shouting would be used. For instance "PRODIGEE FUCK OFF" basically shouting to the person who was replied to that they should leave.
I wasn't angry, I was expressing my frustration towards your assumptions.
It wasn't hard, you were dishonest right away. Do you notice a lot of people yelling at you on CreateDebate? Maybe you are the problem.
The real adult thing for me to do is be a jerk, accuse everyone else of being a jerk for the jerky things that I also do, and then call them a child when they catch me red handed.
Do you notice a lot of people yelling at you on CreateDebate?
It's not here, and it's not always me. It's in general. When I can always see the comments. Like the DCUO community has a giant chat screen where all the comments are directed.
It's not here, and it's not always me. It's in general.
Not sure what you mean :(
I was forced to yell at you in our other debate. This guy was forced to yell at you in this debate. You seem to have such a thick skull that people naturally start yelling at you because your views are so dumb.
So, you get yelled at a lot. It's because you are an idiot. Sorry man. At least you say stupid things, you get corrected, then you continue to say the same stupid thing that the people you are talking to is telling you makes no sense. It isn't even that the opinions that you are arguing for are bad, your reasoning is terrible.
Perfect example. I was talking to you about good guys and bad guys having guns. You told me to call them what they really are, cops and criminals. Then you made an argument about how cops need to be armed, cops this, cops that. I responded to you that I meant that good guys means regular citizen and that you should update your argument. Then you replied that your argument is still valid and there is no reason to change your argument. Somehow to you it makes no difference what the words you are using actually mean.
No, that wasn't your quote, I just gave it to you before, here it is again, "Because you actually were brainwashed by your government to think you need people watching over you?"
The line you quoted was after you showed your anger, or frustration. Before you showed your frustration I said maybe. I assumed you were angry because maybe you were brainwashed. You took that hostile, or got frustrated and used all caps. That was when I was pretty sure that you were brainwashed by your government.
If we take the dictionary definition of anarchy (which is the Absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.) and combine it with the idea that everyone does not steal or harm anyone else then you are effectively creating a paradoxical argument as the idea of a government as if everyone had their freedom then but thought stealing and harming was wrong then it creates a very publicly influenced type of government.
In short you are creating rules by removing them if that makes sense.
The idea of anarchy is a sound one as everyone liked the idea that theu create their own rules in which they follow however it would mean the decline of humanity.
What would happen is that instead of communities you would create gangs or clans of people. Disputes may be solved by wars between clans rather than diplomatic agreements and things would turn into conflicts of power rather than eArning ypur items by conventional methods. The whole idea of our society is that everyone works together so that everyone may live confartably but obviously by removing thst you are essentially sertting the whole worldto compete against each other for survival
I can see how most people would be against that, but for someone with my skills that'd be the life, and if I should die, I'd be accepted into a 'valhalla' of sorts. Not that I'm Scandinavian, but I do think dying in combat would be a sweet way to go.