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Total Votes:302
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Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits

If you love animals, then why would you eat them?

(And for the record, yes you love eating them, you love them so much you eat them jokes have already been thought of) - Joe that's a challenge for you :)

This includes wearing animal products, using animal tested products etc.

Yes

Side Score: 112
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No

Side Score: 127
7 points

Yes. People who say "I love animals" but eat meat do not love animals. They might love their pet, but that's it. Animals do not ONLY include you cat and dog, but including ALL animals. Including the chickens, cows, and pigs that you kill. Next time, say "I love cute and fluffy animals".

Side: yes
Vermink(1944) Disputed
1 point

I have to dissagree, just becasue you eat meat doesn't mean you don't love animals. I love animals and eat meat it's just the circle of life, I bet most of the animal documentors eat meat so whats the difference? so now I say

I love animals but that doesn't change the fact that they taste good! especially bacon.

To the guy who made this debate you spelt hypocrite wrong XD

Side: No
Gabs(3) Disputed
2 points

You mean you like animals so much that you agree with them being killed, just so you can eat them? Isn't that like a rapist saying he loves women so much that he rapes and kills them?

Hey and if the bacon and processed meat kills you

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/mar/07/processed-meat-scare-bacon-sandwich-health

I don't think general health care should pay for your treatment as it was your own doing.

But I am glad to see that you can spell what you are right, a blazing hypocrite

Side: Yes
nicholas Disputed
1 point

It is certainly not the circle of life. You fail to understand that humans evolved as a prey species, not predator. We simply do not have the biology of natural predators. We only became predators when we began developing tools. Take any strict carnivore and they have a jaw that does not move side-to-side like ours, because they are using all the jaw muscles to bite into flesh. We use our jaw to grind, like other omnivore/herbivores. If you truly think we are predatory species go bite into a cow and see if you get anything more than a mouth full of hair.

This will get lengthy so my last example will be our digestive system. The digestive systems of carnivore is much shorter from intake to output, on average 3 times less than ours, because meat is toxic if it stews inside us for to long. We have long digestive tracks which enable to us to break down plant fiber better, because it takes longer to break it down.

Supporting Evidence: This goes into a further detail of my simplistic explanation. (www.huffingtonpost.com)
Side: Yes
cthulou13(1) Disputed
1 point

You are not an animal lover if you eat meat...plain and simple. It is not "the circle of life" either. Humans were not, despite much objection, carnivorous. Wake up. You have a choice. Meat eaters are straining the world's resources and many would argue, are the ultimate source of war and strife for how can we truly care for and love one another when we rape and murder animals?

Side: Yes
6 points

I'm 12 and i love all animals and i want to open an animal rescue centre. I am a vegetarian. To be honest, if you claim to love animals and then eat meat it is hypacritical. All animals include the animals that people eat, e.g. pigs, cows, chickens, etc. If you truely love animals then I advise you should convert to vegetarianism, if not then thats your own choice.

Side: yes
4 points

only supposed Animal lovers will eat meat, simple.

If you Really care and love animals you would take a stand against terrible situations the capitalist meat industry commits for profit.

you might not be a hypocrite but definitely a Coward.

Side: yes
iDGAF420(8) Disputed
4 points

i stand very strongly on the side of animal rights but i do eat meat and that doesnt make me a hypocrite. theres this thing called the circle of life and all organisms with the exception of autotrophs, eat other organisms its the way you survive. its over production and unnecessary slaoughtering and mistreatment of animals that you should stand against. not eating meat. thats just ignorant.

Side: yes
clearlight(24) Disputed
2 points

The circle of life also includes animals that don't eat other animals. It is our choice as to what we decide to eat and how we behave toward other creatures. Animal rights also determine human rights. The act of killing gives a thumbs up that it is ok to commit acts of violence. Slaughter is the highest mistreatment of animals, it is a termination of their right to life.

Side: No
Gabs(3) Disputed
1 point

You have a choice, you decide to not make that choice and you make excuses, therefore you are a hypocrite, an pretty ignorant one at that.

Do you stand strongly on the side of animals when they are raised in terrible conditions, or do you stand strongly on the side of animals when they go to the slaughterhouse and are terrified? Or do you just say "so sorry" when you see a cuddly animal being mistreated and then claim you made a strong stand?

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
-1 points

Lol idiot.. (can't call you cunt)..

I ain't no animal lover. I love them.. just not THAT much. I do take a stand against it.. but I ain't no animal rights activist. I got more important priorities. Can't fight everybattle.

Can't help it. Cunt.

Side: yes
aqua(14) Disputed
3 points

cool, i totally understand of course people have different priorities. i dunno why you called me a cunt of idiot. there distracting to any debate so please leave em out.

Are you just telling me you have don't have enough time or strength to fight for what you think is right? a true man (or female) will fight every battle if they strongly support it, otherwise your a coward (or PUSSY - in you level of english).

so just admit you are a pussy, coward, or just don't care enough for animals because that's the truth.

small fuses for small brains.

Side: No
feral(14) Disputed
3 points

YOU GOT MORE IMPORTANT PRIORITIES? MAYBE YOU SHOULD BUY A BOOK! WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES? RUBBING YOUR NOSE? DO YOU READ HOW STUPID YOU LOOK?

Side: No
feral(14) Disputed
2 points

could your verbiage be anymore hillbilly ignorant? maybe a good education could do you some good. people eat people on some islands and in some countries. does that mean it's OK? buy a mind.

Side: No
Gabs(3) Disputed
1 point

Your first priority should be learning to spell, grammar, etc. That and lack of swear words wouldn't make you look quite as dumb, even if you'd still be a few fries short of a happy meal

Side: No

Of course, if one wants to protect animals, and they eat meat, then they are hypocrites of the highest kind.

It is the whole thing of SAY ONE THING, DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

Side: yes
2 points

wearing leather or fur is just as bad so i hope some bring this up as well

Side: Yes
3 points

Would you kill or eat someone you love? I find the logic would apply everywhere, be it with humans and animals.

I think it's because meat nowadays comes in packets or in supermarkets and people don't see the real animal. They find it hard to relate their food to the animals, and thus ignore the fact that they are eating the things they claim to love.

Side: Yes
2 points

I think it all depends upon the definition of "animal lover". If the definition means "all animals" and no exceptions then yes people who claim to love "all animals" and then eat meat would be considered hypocrites. If they admit they love only some animals and eat meat then they would not be hypocrites but they would also not be an "animal lover" if the definition is "all animals". Can someone both love an animal and eat it, in some sick way yes they can. See the farmer go to town, where he puts his cattle down, all they know they love and trust, till the day he eats them up. There is no such thing as honoring an animal in its death and there is no humane form of killing, it's all an act of violence.

Side: Yes
2 points

They by definition are hypocrites (a person who stands morally on one side and acts on the other). This is not a disputable point. So the argument is won.

I would add, in their defense, they may just be ignorant and not know or understand that a person can indeed live off of a plant based diet alone. A diet that actually provides for greater health than just minimal animal intake.

I'm a Vegan and I had wrestled with eating meat until 2 years ago, because I like many did not know their was another way.

Side: Yes
2 points

Most of them don't love animals, they love pets. Or they consider cute household pets to be animals, while other animals are only considered food rather than animals. For example, most of these 'animal loving' meat-eaters would find the idea of eating a cat or dog completely abhorrent and inhumane.

Side: Yes
1 point

This is why China is such a great country...

Here in the western world we see meat in shops and happy pigs and cows in pictures of farms. Children cannot make any link between the two whatsoever.

In Asia you go to the store and buy meat like this:

Customer:could I have a chicken wing please

Butcher:sure

(grabs a live chicken axes its head and removes the unordered parts of the animal)

Customer:(who can see everything)thanks

It isn't exactly scripted like this but that is the basic idea.

Side: Blame the way its presented
clearlight(24) Disputed
2 points

I've accidentally caught a glimpse of pictures and videos of China's food market and its atrocities to animals is beyond cruel. Nothing great about it. I couldn't watch it for more than a few seconds. Americans like neat pretty packages of meat so no guilt or remorse.

Side: Yes
Axmeister(4322) Disputed
2 points

Exactly my point, if you watch how companies such as McDonolds prepare their meat you'ld see that the level of cruelty is equal, if not more, to that of China. But America likes to hide their cruelty with pretty packeging whereas China admits it freely.

Side: No
feral(14) Disputed
2 points

A GREAT COUNTRY? AS THEY THROW LIVE DOGS AND CATS INTO A BOILING POT OF WATER OR A FRYING PAN AFTER BURNING AND OR BEATING THEM SO THEY THINK THEY WILL HAVE GREATER SEXUAL SATISFACTION? WHAT COULD BE WORSE? IT'S ALL ON U TUBE

Side: No
1 point

To start I am not sure what an animal lover even is, the idea always baffles me. What I do know is that paying someone to chop the head of a healthy animal for pleasure is as far removed from love as you can get. So to me its a absurd argument as its a bit like asking do peodophiles love children? which is of course not. Corpse munchers are a debasement to humanity and their only love is egocentric and deeply destructive to the integrity of humanity and the planet. Meat eating is antiquated cruel practice who's end is certain.

Side: Yes
1 point

How can you eat someone who has been ruthlessly murdered then claim to 'love' them? It's hypocrisy at it's finest.

Side: Yes
1 point

They are! if you truly "love" animals you wouldn't eat them

Example:Chinese people.

No offence

Side: Yes
1 point

Before you hustle me off as a crazy, arrogant, poop-head, hear me out.

What this argument boils down to is the hypocrisy of wholeheartedly defending killing animals yourself, whilst complaining about someone else killing animals. Yes, killing for survival is ethically more sound than killing for pleasure.

BUT, in our current society (at least in the one I am familiar with, Australia), consumption of meat is for pleasure. As in, it's no longer: I need to eat this meat or I'll die.

THEREFORE, if the VAST MAJORITY of modern society (based upon Australia) eat animals for pleasure. It is hypocritical to complain about Person A killing animals for self pleasure, whilst poo-pooing Person B killing animals for self pleasure.

If you disagree with my above statement you either don't understand logic or you perceive animals in a hierarchy of deserving-to-die-ness (which in itself is hypocritical with deep set morals such as "Love thy neighbour" and "everybody is equal").

There's of course exceptions (people who need to eat meat for anemia or what not), but before you rebuttal with little things like that. LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.

Side: Yes
1 point

Animal lovers who do not abort puppies in order to spare the mother from the pain of raising them and all the trouble they go through doing it are liars. They hate animals or they would kill all the puppies before they are born so the female dogs can enjoy themselves with no burden of puppies.

Side: Yes
1 point

In reality you don't need meat at all! People who says they are animal lovers and eat meat are mostly hypocrites because most people are eating meat, dairy and eggs. This process puts a lot of animals in pain all their life. Most people who eat meat don't kill the animals themselves. Only a small percentage kills animals themselves for them to eat for e.g. Hunters who need to eat meat because of the environment and circumstances. We are in an advanced generation where we can easily live of plant based foods. So when they eat meat they are simply supporting animal suffering. To eat thousands of chickens all your life is not very loving to animals especially when you don't need too!

Side: Yes
3 points

It depends on in what sense they love animals. If they love playing with animals, think they're cute and cuddly, but don't believe they are beings with thoughts and feelings, just toys essentially, then they aren't hypocrites. Not saying they're right, but they aren't hypocrites. Also, some people don't have a choice about eating meat, like people in third world countries whose diets are very limited--they have to eat whatever they can to survive. Those people aren't hypocrites; they are just trying to survive.

Now, people who view animals as people, essentially, but still eat meat and have a choice? They are hypocrites, of course.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
3 points

A - Animal lovers are people who love animals on the same level as they love human beings.

B - Vegetarian diets are cheaper not just to eat but also to produce. It depends on taxing/subsidies but in general in developing countries it is cheaper to be vegetarian.

C - Those people would never be considered animal lovers. Not saying it's impossible.. just that it won't happen. They can't buy a designer suit for their dogs etc.

Side: yes
Awen27(541) Disputed
1 point

Well, if you define animal lovers as what you said, then okay, forget my first argument. I don't know whether or not B is true, but my point still stands, if only hypothetically. If a person cannot get very much food, and thus must kill animals to feed himself and his loved ones, he could still love animals without hypocrisy--he doesn't want to kill animals, but he simply has no choice. I'm not sure which group you are talking about in the case of C...do you mean the people who have no choice about eating meat?

Side: No
shorty8876(13) Disputed
1 point

A. How can you love animals on the same level as humans, that is perverse (I think it is illegal in most areas).

B. I suffered a heart attack and had to reduce my meat and dairy intake dramatically. My grocery bills are just as expensive as before. How can you justify feeding livestock when you can't feed people, it has nothing to do with economics. It has a lot to do with hunger and famine. Also it depends on the area and type, if you have to fertilize, irrigate and tend crops that have to be processed to be consumed, they become more expensive.

C Animals lovers seldom love all animals and that OK, but hypocritical.

Side: No
PewZigZag Clarified
1 point

Almost everyone loves animals. Almost everyone eats meat when they don't need too! Isn't that hypocritical?

99% of the population eats meat unnecessarily. It is terrible for the animals. They feel so much pain you can't even comprehend! So to call yourself an animal lover is a bit silly. A lot of people would disagree with me due to culture and tradition but it is logical to say they are hypocrites! Common sense tells us that!

Side: Yes
3 points

Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrites?

Firstly, here is what we know as fact: All humans are animals.

Secondly, all humans who love another human are de facto animal lovers.

And unless a man cannibalizes the flesh of man, he is not a hypocrite by reason of the fact that he eats the flesh of other animals; though he may be a hypocrite for other reasons.

Side: No
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

De facto by practice, not by law. If you don't practice what you preach then you are a hypocrite.

Side: Yes
3 points

Even if one were to pretend that all animals are the same, and loving one kind of animal is automatically loving all animals (I'm not even going to count humans, even though we are animals also)

ie: I love my tortoises. If I eat a cow or chicken sometime today, at least part of one, which I inevitably will, that is not a tortoise. I do not love my tortoises any less for eating a completely different species I honestly don't care for one way or another.

Further, you've mis-defined hypocrite.

It would be hypocritical for me to tell you not to eat my tortoises because it's wrong because I love my tortoises, then to turn around myself and eat my tortoises.

In order for an animal lover who also eats certain kinds of animals to be a hypocrite, they would have to tell you that you shouldn't eat animals.

Which I don't believe any meat eaters are saying.

Ironically, the only possibility for hypocrisy on this debate is from the people saying not to eat animals. If one of you should happen to eat an animal it would be quiet hypocritical.

One can only be a hypocrite if they have created some kind of moral judgment for others then themselves not adhered to it.

Side: No
clearlight(24) Clarified
3 points

A hypocrite is someone pretending to have virtues/morals that they do not possess. They say one thing but then do the opposite. A hypocrite as well as a non-hypocrite could be judgmental since being judgmental is being critical/disapproving.

Side: Yes
Kinda(1649) Disputed
0 points

Yes, but animal lovers are people who love ALL animals.

Not just love an animal. Animal lovers i.e. love all animals.

Side: yes
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

Are you telling me there is not a vegetarian on earth who is not also a plant lover?

I love plants and animals. I also love to eat both of them.

And I'm not arguing the merits of eating or not eating meat, I'm explaining to you that you have mis-defined hypocrite.

Side: No
1 point

gamerdude94 and kinda(1619)- you should've known that all the meat eaters would have some way of rationalizing their "hypocrisy". sorry that the stupid remarks will always be flowing. regardless, you are compassionate people who i am glad exist out there. i am so sick of these worthless people debating over something that is so immoral. and like me, usually people with true compassion about life, would never consider wearing leather, or using products that had anything to do with destroying a life. if only these animals could use the same tactics against these morons, alot of the cowards would go running. wouldn't it be great to see cows, pigs chickens, etc. be able to have control over human life ? basically, you are correct, but at least the animals these people profess to "love" get the option to live the life all living creatures were meant to have the right to.

Side: yes
3 points

No, but Vegans have a choice not to be animal lovers. Vegans choose not to eat meat as a personal choice, plant lovers allow that without protest. A Vegan that harms other humans are hypocrites i.e. poisoning turkeys to protest animal cruelty is one of the most preposterous and contradicting notions that I have ever heard of. Vegans must be absolute in there belief for it to be meaningful i.e. no animals killed for any reason not just food. I think vegans would find it exceedingly difficult to purchase anything that doesn't contain animals parts.

Most apparel and wallets are not eaten, however the animals can hardly lend its own skin. Grain has been genetically spliced to rodent DNA to make it abhorrent to "pests". Medicines and vitamins contain animals. Even pet care products contain animal parts. God gave us molars, canine and incisor teeth for us to be able to choose what to eat. The important issue is not that animals die, it is how they are treated while they lived and how they are killed. I know many ranchers that care deeply for their livestock animals as deeply as they care for their horses. What purpose does it ultimately serve to substitute highly toxic and environmentally unsound synthetics in place of safe animal based products.

Side: No

no, a person can defend animals against abuse and the maintain their environment, and still eat meat, so long as the animal it came from was humanely put down.

also, animals eat other animals, and humans, despite their intelligence, are animals. it is in our nature to eat meat.

Side: No
clearlight(24) Disputed
2 points

Defending helpless animals is a noble cause but I fail to see killing as humane, which it seldom is. Some consider using a tool that breaks a rabbit's neck and then petting and comforting the bunny until it dies as humane. It should be our "intelligence" that tells us this is a very disturbed way of thinking and behaving.

Side: Yes
2 points

Treating our pets to the same medical treatment we get is expensive. Most people aren't down to throw $1500 for surgery for their $25 bunny when the bunny needs it to keep living, or to live pain-free. My friend worked at a pet store where he was unofficially in charge of putting down animals that were sick or injured beyond reasonable recovery. They have feeder mice they sell for $1, but it costs them between $25-100 to treat a mouse that is sick or injured. From what I understand, the sick and injured mice they get every shipment would put them out of business if they tried to heal them all. So, as it's usually not financially viable for individuals or companies to give animals human level medical care, and as it seems irresponsible to keep an animal that is living in extreme pain most of these people will opt to put the animal out of its misery. I dont know your experience with pain, but personally if I was faced with having to deal with some of the pain and health issues I've had without proper medical treatment or seek a quick end to it all, it would be a no brainer.

Side: No
3 points

I don't depend ALL of my decisions on religion, but God does allow men to eat other animals, without punishment. Meat also have proteins, which must be good for our body, if bodybuilders use them. A vegan can take protein supplements, but I learned that to get nutrients from food is the best way. Therefore, eating meat doesn't mean you can't possibly love animals. If an animal lover loves ALL animals, then I'm not an animal lover. I hate biting insects (bees, wasps, mosquitoes, etc.), sharks, poisonous/venomous animals, or any other animals that are a threat to us humans. I like horses, bulls, and elephants because they help us with labors. I like gentle animals like dogs, cats, butterflies, whales, etc., because they don't harm us and adds beauty to nature. I like chickens, pigs, and some sea creatures because they are a source of food. I wouldn't consider myself a hypocrite.

Side: No
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

Man allows himself to eat animals. There is plenty of protein in a vegetarian diet without supplements. There is nothing wrong with self-defense against animals who wish to do you harm, but most of the problem is with humans not understanding how to live along side other creatures. You would not be a hypocrite because as you stated you are not an animal lover, which is a lover of all animals.

Side: Yes
3 points

I love animals. Always have. All I used to play with as a kid were little plastic animal figurines. Even now, I read books on zoology constantly.

I also love meat. I crave it if I go without it too long. Oh, and guess what? I prefer to slaughter my own meat. I've slaughtered two year-old calves and countless chickens and rabbits. All with my own knives or just my hands. Oh, and I eat bugs sometimes, too. Does that count as meat? Grasshoppers are the best. Real big ones.

Am I a hypocrite? I don't think so. If I'm going to eat I feel the most responsible way to do so is to raise animals in a loving environment and come to terms with what I'm going to use them for. It's always a somber moment when I slaughter something, but it's part of life.

Side: No
clearlight(24) Disputed
3 points

Slaughter, knives, hands, crave, meat, countless, baby animals, are not words that equal out to love nor create a loving responsible environment, and coming to terms, somber moment, and part of life are just words to ease a guilty mind doing something cruel. The contrast of your words spells hypocrite. If you want to kill and eat animals then just do it, but don't pretend to love them. You don't kill someone you love.

Side: Yes
cthulou13(1) Disputed
2 points

You are not an animal lover , you are a pet lover. Big difference

Side: Yes
3 points

This is a ridiculous notion I am an animal lover but eat meat all the time. In the end the FACT is just because you become a become a veggie does not mean you save an animal's life you just slow the animals death - i.e. you don't eat a cow today but i will eat that same cow tomorrow - so in the end animals are still killed if veggies exist or not its that simple.

Side: No
3 points

if some one loves animals in this case me so what i eat meat doesn't mean i still don't love animals it is in our nature to eat meat we were given canines for a reason i love animals and would help any animal if it was in need on a moments notice.I do how ever dislike how they choose to treat the animals we eat it should be a more humane way.Just cuz i eat meat doesn't make us hypoctits

Side: No
clearlight(24) Disputed
3 points

It is "your" nature to eat meat. I think an animal waiting in line at a slaughter house would meet the criteria of an "animal in need" and needing help at a "moments notice". Actually your statement of loving and helping animals then eating them makes you a hypocrite.

Side: Yes
3 points

i love animals and respect them but i still eat meat. u can say im a hypocrite. but im just a simple human who can't live just by eating vegetables.

all i can do is don't waste foods especially meats. not because i love to eat meat. when im a kids i heard a wild boar, chicken and duck scream when people cut their neck to release their blood, which i will never ever forget. to show my respect n sorry for them, is to finish all d meat on my dish, never play with d foods and never waste it. i know many people disagree but this is my ways. and i believe a lot a people out there doing d same thing just like me.

sorry for d bad english.

Side: No
clearlight(24) Clarified
2 points

At least you are an honest hypocrite :) and it is good that you don't waste an animal that was sacrificed for you.

Side: Yes
1 point

Wait, there's such thing as an "honest hypocrite"? .......

Side: No
2 points

Who cares, it's our god given right to eat the animals. I love animals and also love to eat them.

Side: No
Kinda(1649) Disputed
2 points

Sigh........

If you're an animal lover and you eat meat, then you're a hypocrit. But you're not an animal lover. You're just an idiot.

Side: yes
FANG(3) Disputed
2 points

BIG Sigh..... That entire statement was idiotic. If you don't consider them an animal lover how can they be a hypocrite?

Side: No
clearlight(24) Disputed
2 points

I'm sure man-eating animals feel the same way about you to, only they won't pretend to love you and then eat you. They aren't hypocrites :)

Side: No
2 points

Animal lovers that treat animals as if they were humans don't eat meat.

In my experience, most animal lovers don't necessarily think they shouldn't be eaten. They are usually just against the cruel treatment to animals. Quick and painless deaths to animals is fine, it's the torturing of animals, ie; veal, that they have a problem with.

I don't believe wanting animals to live a normal un-tortured life is very unreasonable.

Side: No
2 points

I do believe it is a sin to domesticate a species to taylor its behavior and then slaughter them or treat them cruelly (i.e. kill a wolf, ok; but kill a dog that is hopelessly in love with human companionship and I believe you are scum). If you want to be vegetarian, more power to you, you probably raise some decent points, we just don't completely hold the same opinions. If you torture or eat an animal that has been bred over generations to not defend themselves (and also exhibit "human" traits), I hope that someone helps you to die a horrible death :-)

Side: yes
FANG(3) Disputed
2 points

So by your own statement you are also an alleged cowardly hypocrite "(i.e. kill a wolf, ok; but kill a dog that is hopelessly in love with human companionship and I believe you are scum)" Is a wolf not an animal?

Side: Yes
2 points

I love animals very much, they taste great. However, we should try to stop the inhumane treatment of animals.

Side: No
clearlight(24) Disputed
2 points

Well, the first place to start would be to stop killing and eating them :) sounds humane enough to me.

Side: Yes
clearlight(24) Disputed
2 points

I find it interesting that meat eaters don't consider the actual killing and eating of animals to be inhumane. As if the cow says, "Sure you can kill and eat me, but just don't mistreat me! Yep, that's why I became a vegetarian when I decided that way of thinking was just ignorant as all get out. Animals are much more beautiful alive. You don't show animals love or humane treatment by chewing them between your teeth, you are not an animal lover but a hypocrite.

Side: Yes
2 points

If you love animals, then why would you eat them?

I do love animals, but I also understand that we as humans can and do eat meat. While our modern society has enabled us to cut out meat completely yet keep the nutrients that we'd normally get from meat in our system, I still prefer the taste of meat. It does not mean I'm a hypocrite, because I understand that I have a love for animals but that they are food, just like other animals are food to the animals we eat.

(And for the record, yes you love eating them, you love them so much you eat them jokes have already been thought of) - Joe that's a challenge for you :)

Aww you did spoil my joke.

This includes wearing animal products,

I developed the belief that if I am going to be in favor of eating animals, I should be in favor of what we can use the rest of their body for. I take a liking to an old belief that if you are going to kill the animal, use the entire animal, so that it's death is just.

using animal tested products etc.

That I don't agree with. I think if we're going to use animals to test products, we should also test it on humans. I am fairly confident if you put it out there, some humans would volunteer.

Side: No
2 points

I totally disagree with your statement. Animals eat meat so why cant we humans? I am a HUGE animal lover and I do all in my power to protect them from animal abuse. I do i meat but i dont eat veal. I think it is important to eat meat to be healthy. I am not a hypocrite, obviously you don't know the meaning of hypocrite. Hypocrit: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. I dont "pretend" to love animals. I have pets of my own and i love them with my heart.

Side: No

I know, when I go to the zoo and I see all those animals in their cages, I'm like "Oh man...., how sad...., I'm never going to find out what they taste like." ;)

I mean, there is a place for all of God's animals...., right next to the mash potatoes and gravy. ;)

BTW, did you know that all the sea food they serve at Sea World are their slow learners ;)

So no...., I'm not a hypocrit. When I say I love lamb, pork and beef, I mean it. I'm an animal lover. I haven't met an animal that I didn't want to cook and eat. ;)

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Kinda(1649) Disputed
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Lol 4 winks. Joe. Are you coming onto me??

And you didn't win the challenge. Sorry, you'r a flop.

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Depends on what type of animal lover. For instance, I love animals. I recognize their complex and unique biologies, I appreciate the fragility and balance of life, and I do not take any life for granted. However, I also don't believe an animal has a soul. I think they were put here so we could take care of them or use them as we need, since humans are the current master species.

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clearlight(24) Disputed
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There is no proof that animals don't have a soul anymore than there is proof that humans do. There is also no proof that animals are a human entitlement and to be used as needed.

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Kinda(1649) Disputed
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Right but you're not an animal lover. You may love animals, but an animal lover is someone who loves and treats humans on a level equal to or above humans. Like those people who leave millions of pounds of their fortunes to their pets etc.

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FANG(3) Disputed
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1) How ballsy are you to decide what an "Animal Lover" is or isn't. I believe that is your own opinion not fact. Definition of "Animal Lover" via Collins English Dictionary - a person who feels fondness for non-human animals (fact). 2) As for " those people who leave millions of pounds of their fortunes to their pets etc." How is a pet going to spend millions? Maybe their pets could donate some of their millions to help stop child hunger or build homeless shelters for battered women & children or any of a dozen other worth while causes, just my opinion.

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Don't some religions in India worship cattle and such? The question though is, 'Do you love animals enough to want to die for them?' Instead of eating the cattle that is plentiful, they would rather starve because they think of them as being sacred. What about dog lovers, they love them and would never eat dogs but they eat beef. I dont see how that makes them love dogs any less or be a hypocrite. Some religions believed shedding the blood of animals would cleanse us from our sins, they killed animals daily, and eat them afterwards. This asks the question, who is right. and who's wrong? Another question, is it wrong when animals eat another animal? Different strokes for different folks!

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johnnyQ(24) Disputed
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People in India aren't starving because they refuse to eat cattle. That's like saying people in poor regions of Appalachia are starving because they refuse to eat stray dogs. People in India are starving because the British colonized the subcontinent, used economic force to make farmers grow cash crops that the British could profit off of, and then additionally sold Indians rice at a rate for profit that they couldn't all afford.

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l2aven(2) Disputed
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Indians hold the cow very highly - they are just stupid for not eating it, if your hungry you eat no matter what - and we were all "developing countires" at some point so why don' t they stand on their own feet.

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clearlight(24) Disputed
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Vegetarians do not die for the sake of animals. They eat very well indeed, no suffering needed. It is a false belief that animal or human sacrifice ever cleansed anything. A religion that says killing is a sin and then kills is a hypocrite. A human being can "choose" to be an meat eating animal or a "humane animal". We can "choose" not to kill and not suffer the little animals. Intelligence gives us choices.

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Kinda(1649) Disputed
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You are just being a bigot buy saying that. Not everyone is able to afford your vegan visions, others lack the resources.The Indians used Everything they hunted. You are saying Eskimo's don't care about the only resource that allowed them to sustain life. Feel blessed to be in a position to help out the good causes you support. However, ethnocentrism will be more ineffective than effective when it come's to shifting views to meet your own. Are you from the USA?

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clearlight(24) Disputed
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Actually you save a lot of money on groceries by not buying meat. You can also grow a garden anywhere. Animals require a lot of space to grow. These days we can use plant based products instead of animal based for clothing, etc. No one has to remain in an area with limited resources, you can move. By the way, what cultural standard are you using to judge the USA?

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No, of course they aren't hypocrites. I love cats and dogs. Do I eat steak, hamburgers, pork, and chicken nuggets? Oh yes I do!!! God put cows, pigs, and chickens here for us to eat; but he didn't want us to hate them. Loving the food you eat does not make you a hypocrite. ~! V

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Kinda(1649) Disputed
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Would you eat dogs and cats?

Do you love cows pigs chickens etc?

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veronica(53) Disputed
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No, you ignoramous, I wouldn't eat dogs or cats or both. It was something called an analogy. I like all animals, but i eat some of them to SURVIVE. God said to occupy the Earth and subdue it's creation. ~! V

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I love animals well i have a dog and i still eat lamb and cow that doesn't make me a hypocrite i dont think.

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yoshi8 Clarified
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You love your dog but you don't love animals. It's not so much your a hypocrite as just simply delusional.

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I love my animals. I love my meat. Meat is important part of our diets. Also humans eating meat helps stops over propulation of sertin animals. As long as the animal is humanley killed then eating meat makes u a normal person not a hypocrit.

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clearlight(24) Disputed
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Meat is an important part of "your" diet. A better statement would be I love my "animal meat" since for you there is no distinction between loving animals and loving meat. There is a greater over- population of humans than any animal on earth. To reduce other species on the assumption of over-population and not our own is hypocritical in itself.

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I love animals' meat.

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Humans need meat to live healthy lives. Those who do NOT eat meat are hypocrites.

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clearlight(24) Disputed
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Vegetarians do live healthy lives. Vegetarians would only be hypocrites if they were unhealthy from eating their veggies, fruits, nuts, etc. and then claiming to be healthy from eating a non-meat diet. So your statements are not correct.

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nummi(1432) Disputed
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Healthy life includes regular physical exercises, either from free time or from one's work. If you do not eat meat with that kind of exercise you will lack necessary nutrients and thus be weak and tired and won't be able to perform well.

It might be possible to get all those ingredients from eating plants and vegetables but that would be far too expensive, also a very detailed and planned-out diet would be necessary. Not worth the trouble.

My statements are correct. But if you have enough money to waste on ridiculous habits like vegetarianism then go ahead.

Healthy life also includes being healthy in mind. Vegetarianism rules that out.

We are omnivores not herbivores.

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I love animals. I think there's a place for all of God's creatures..., right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy ;)

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Humans are omnivores, have canines & incisors (for eating meat) & eyes in the front of their skull ( as predators do).

Definition of Hypocrite - A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others for.

Animal Lover is defined as - a person who feels fondness for non-human animals

Until my physical body evolves into an herbivore/prey I will continue to be true to my species & eat meat. I do not tell others not to eat meat while I still do, hence not a hypocrite. I did not cry when my Father died ( & I loved him dearly) but I do (cry) when animals die = animal lover.

I believe everything on this planet has energy including plants. Do they not cry/bleed (sap) when you break off a branch? You think that doesn't hurt them? But it's ok to eat them because they can't look back at you while you're eating them (just an after thought).

“Nothing ever truly dies. The universe wastes nothing, everything is simply transformed.”

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clearlight(24) Disputed
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Humans can "choose" their behaviors. Meat eating animals sniff butts and eat poo, among other nasties, but humans can choose not to behave and eat as carnivore/omnivore animals do. As you stated, since you do eat meat you must "cry" a lot when an animal you choose to eat dies. Do you cry when you eat a burger?, I think not, therefore a hypocritical statement. Nothing truly dies is a cop-out as to say nothing truly suffers either. Transformation is in the heart. I don't know of any vegetarians that eat trees.

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andybar98(124) Disputed
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but I know of many vegetarians that eat vegetables and fruit, WHICH COME FROM PLANTS

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I don't eat the one's I love.

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I love animals, I love spending time with animals, I feel pain when i hear an animal die, When i find a dead animal on the road I move it to the side on the grass to stop it from getting even more squashed. I have one Rabbit who I love very much, Me and my wife also look after dogs etc for family. We both refuse to do any activities on holiday that involve animals being used for entertainment. Example being swimming with dolphins or camel back riding. But I eat beef and chicken, I won't eat rabbit as I have a rabbit plus it is not really needed for my diet, I need beef for iron in my body and chicken for protein. Here is my argument:

Humans have eaten animals (beef, Pork, chicken) for hundreds even thousands of years, When we are born our bodies are prepared to eat meat, It is FACT. So when we chose to not eat me it is a choice. Everyone who has became a vegetarian has slaughtered people with pets etc to say '' You don't love animals, You eat them '' - you guys are the people that cause such drama. You should look at it this way, We all need meat, Eating meat does not make a person hate animals, They are allowed to love them. It is the circle of life my friend and it is not a hypocritical thing to love and then eat! Boooooooom

Lastly using animals for entertainment value is something that is the biggest concern, Eating farmed animals is what us as humans have learnt over many thousand of years, Engaging animals is wrong especially for profit, Yet those people are seen as animal lovers, Example kids say '' Aw they love their little dolphin '' - No they don't, they would not do such job if they did not love them '' - Loving a pet is different, I would never engage my pet but i'd eat meat, Makes me a good person, What would make me a hypocrite would be this......killing an animal for money, Capturing an animal for profit then going home to my dog and knowing that I have done something wrong. That is the issue!!!

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I'm sorry but people who love animals and eat meat are not hypocrites, that is your own opinion and you are allowed to express that. Some people like my self have grown up to eat meat, where i live the national dish is meat, but if i see animals being killed inhumanely then i put my foot down. I eat meat yes, but if i see an animal other than my pets whether it is stray or not i will either help it get back SAFELY to where it came from or let it be. I love animals and on many occasion have risked my life to save animals i have seen. just because we eat meat does no mean that we don't care unless we are doing what these people below are doing to these animals then please do not say we are hypocrites. If you cared about the animals then your would be focusing on them not others. I do not mean to offend anyone, i only voicing my opinion. If anyone does not agree that is fine, people are allowed to disagree. I am currently working on something to help stop this kind of cruel killing.

Supporting Evidence: Against animal cruelty (whosagainstanimalcruelty.org)
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nonononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononomaybenonononononononononononononononononononononononononono

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saying animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrites is like saying plant lovers who eat fruit are hypocrites.

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I love animals.

But I love myself much much much much much much much more.

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Everyone who eats meat is an animal lover, it's just a question of how much of the animal is loved!

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I eat meat because I love animal... Meat ;)

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No, because who are you to say what i love, and what I don't.

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They aren't hypocrites because meat contains a lot of protein which is good for you.

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No, I eat chicken and fish and I love animals, but that does not make me a hypocrite. Just because an animal lover ate a chicken wing doesn't make them a hypocrite. Saying so is stupid, and to Kinda. wow you're argument is flawed and you use those terms at the end very stupidly.

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Kinda(1649) Disputed
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Umm... yes it does. How can you love animals and then eat them??

DDDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH!!!!!!!!

I can't understand how you'd want to harm, kill, process, package, burn and then eat something you love.

Same as wearing leather or using such items in cars etc.

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paradox(208) Disputed
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Dude, you love your dog!

You eat chicken and egg! IS that any way wrong!

See, you necessarily need not eat the same animal that you love!

Any way try more exciting debates!

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veronica(53) Disputed
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Kinda, you are nothing more than a vegetarian, animal-rights activist ignoramous who just doesn't understand the question, the fact that he/she has lost this debate, and the simple fact that you are stupid~! V

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clearlight(24) Disputed
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An animal lover loves all animals so you wouldn't catch them with a chicken wing in their mouth. You don't love chickens or fish except cooked on your plate so you don't love all animals. The flaw is in pretending you love and care for all animals while you eat them, that spells hypocrite.

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