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True. Wait..., what? No!!!
Debate Score:80
Arguments:81
Total Votes:91
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Apparently there's a lot of value in religion.


The takeaway is that people who are theologically rigorous tend to be disciplined, solid workers.

True.

Side Score: 37
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Wait..., what? No!!!

Side Score: 43
1 point

Mormon's are generally nice people ;)

Side: True.

I would agree to this. If you ignore the polygamy and banning of certain acts that seem kind of unreasonable, many Mormons are indeed nice people.

Out of all the Christian sects a Mormon is the most likely to communicate with and care for a stranger in my experience. You can argue Jehovah's Witnesses like to communicate more but knocking on doors is not communication, it's alienation.

Side: True.
JimFour7(76) Disputed
1 point

Sure, Mormons are a nice bunch, but most people are. I disagree about that knocking on doors and testifying is alienation. Just the opposite seems true to me. Consider the fact that they always travel in pairs, so constant communication. I would imagine that elderly people would be quite accommodating to a sharp dressed, polite and intelligent young man on a mission. I for one, look forward to inviting these young men to share their views. And always find them curious about my perspective.

Side: True.
1 point

Maybe if you got to know a polygamist, you might learn to overlook it ;)

Side: True.
1 point

Conscientiousness is strongly associated with religious belief (Source 1) and thus it makes sense that religious people are on average more hard working.

Sources:

(1) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3428642/

Side: True.
1 point

The Aztecs were quite rigorous when they collected humans for sacrifice. I'm sure quite a few got Employee of the Month Awards in their offices.

Side: True.
1 point

We need more rigorous Aztecs. ;)

Side: True.
FromWithin(5476) Disputed
0 points

The biggest hypocrte on this site just can't help himself.

You constantly speak to someone else inhumanity while TOTALLY IGNORING THE FACT YOU SUPPORT NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS OF VIABLE BABIES.

Lets see, collecting humans for sacrifice verses sacrificing viable babes for merely beng special.

They both sound inhuman to me but hypocrites like you never admit what you support when voting for those who support No Restriction abortions.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
1 point

The illuminati rape and eat babies. Check out my documentary so you don't become gay.

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Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
Grenache(5564) Disputed
0 points

If the Aztecs preyed only on Democrats you'd have loved them.

Side: True.
1 point

Hello j:

Most Christians TALK a good story, but in my view, Mormons LIVE it..

excon

Side: True.
2 points

I would rather be lazy and smart instead of hard working and schizophrenically delusional and brainwashed.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
TzarPepe(323) Clarified
1 point

There are lot of useless people who think they are smart.

Lazy people are the norm. It's amazing how much you stand out in this world just by not being lazy.

If you are smart and lazy you are wasting your intelligence.

Side: True.
FactMachine(387) Clarified
2 points

There are lot of useless people who think they are hard working.

Lazy people are the norm and so are stupid people, in fact most people are both. . It's amazing how much you stand out in this world just by being worth anything at all in the first place.

If you are stupid and hard working you are wasting your hard work.

Side: True.
1 point

If you would rather be lazy than hard working, you're already lazy to begin with.

Enjoy your life as a permanent underachiever.

Side: True.
JimFour7(76) Disputed
1 point

Being delusional and brainwashed is par for the course for an average citizen. Fluoride, refined sugar, msg, metals in vaccines, prozac, narcotics, endless war and surveillance all contribute to that state. Being of the mormon faith gives one a community centric sense of belonging that contribute to networking which leads to a strong support group.

Side: True.
2 points

Yes, there's a lot of value in being a good worker, a good cog in the machine...as opposed to a free-thinking and acting human...when it comes to making some bureaucrat rich.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
TzarPepe(323) Clarified
2 points

You know, if it wasn't for people subjugating themselves to become "a good cog in the machine", the world you live in could not function.

The world needs these "good cogs in the machine".

Sometimes free-thinking and acting human beings become "good cogs in the machine" so they get by in the way they know how.

I don't think a little respect would hurt. You know, unless you get off on whipping the backs of slaves or something.

Side: True.
EldonG(531) Disputed
1 point

...and if wasn't for those that stand out, the mindless drones wouldn't get a paycheck.

Isn't it wonderful when those in charge have the brainwashed majority to rule over and abuse?

Drones are the slaves.

WTF? I disputed a true stance, and it gave me a true stance, even though my other post was against it. This site is insane.

Side: True.
FromWithin(5476) Disputed
1 point

The Liberal definition of Free thinking........................Government dependent living off tax payers because they believe they are entitled to other's money.

Side: True.
2 points

If I had to defend the libs, I would say:

1. The rule of law is tyranny. Laws are in place to protect the status quo. It protects the powerful and makes it hard for the weak to become powerful.

2. The world owes you nothing. And yet, when you are born, you owe the world in the form of taxes. You have to pay taxes for stuff you never agreed you wanted even if you don't use it.

If those arguments do not hold water, then it is a good thing I do not have to defend libs ;)

Side: True.
2 points

Alright so basically you guys are supposedly adults meaning you don't believe in imaginary friends but that means your being A grade stupid because religions are basically being a kiss ass to a none existent peso

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
1 point

The world needs hard workers. But what it needs even more are innovators and pioneers. Religion is just an obstacle stopping you from greatness.

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FromWithin(5476) Disputed
1 point

Try looking at facts. Since the the lie of the Left's separation of Church and State, our welfare roles and those living off Government in one shape or form has exploded.

You speak to hard work which is what God mentions very often in the Bible.

Try thinking before speaking. Spewing bigoted rheotric is no place for a debate site.

Side: True.
1 point

Try looking at facts.

Have you ever heard of the saying, "Practice what you preach"?

Are you aware of what a hypocrite is?

If you only looked at facts then you would not be part of a religion from the dark ages.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
Polaris95(50) Clarified
1 point

Sorry, I wrote that wrong. You do need hard work to achieve great things. But religion outlaws curiosity and free inquiry, which are incredibly important. The world needs people who challenge the norms and laws. That is how we achieve breakthroughs. Hope this clarifies my earlier statement.

Side: True.