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Fuck ANTIFA I deserve to die screaming
Debate Score:27
Arguments:20
Total Votes:33
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Are ANTIFA doing a good job fighting fascism?

Because chanting "no KKK no fascist USA, no Trump" and throwing shit and spitting on random people is tooooooooooooooootally going to change the system, man.

Fuck ANTIFA

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I deserve to die screaming

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2 points

They have misapplied the terms "Nazi" and "fascist" so much that now, when I hear somebody get called a Nazi, my immediate reaction is "I doubt it". This isn't a good thing, there are deeply evil racists out there that need to be recognizable.

Also, violent suppression of political opposition is one of the hallmarks of fascism, so if anything ANTIFA have brought fascism back.

Side: Fuck ANTIFA
1 point

They have misapplied the terms "Nazi" and "fascist" so much that now, when I hear somebody get called a Nazi, my immediate reaction is "I doubt it"

If you can't see how the alt-right are comparable to Nazis then there is honestly something wrong with you.

Side: I deserve to die screaming
WinstonC(1225) Disputed
2 points

"If you can't see how the alt-right are comparable to Nazis then there is honestly something wrong with you."

Ben Shapiro, Luke Rudkowski and Jordan Peterson, three examples of people that ANTIFA have called Nazis (and/or violently assaulted) I can pull literally off the top of my head, are not alt-right. ANTIFA violently attacks moderate conservatives far more than it attacks the alt-right (Oh and Luke isn't even on the right at all).

Side: Fuck ANTIFA
1 point

Hey Nomengoat...

What does a leftist cat say?

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Side: Fuck ANTIFA
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

Hello W:

It's true... Somebody is trying to BLUR stuff.. Truth is, I don't know much about Marxism or fascism. And, truly, I don't know much about Nazism either..

But, what I DO know about motherfucking Nazis, is that they MURDERED Jews.. That's ALL I need to know.

In terms of ANTIFA, they're ATTACKING motherfucking Nazis, and that's ALL I need to know.

excon

Jew

Side: I deserve to die screaming
WinstonC(1225) Disputed
3 points

Ben Shapiro, Luke Rudkowski and Jordan Peterson, three examples of people that ANTIFA have called Nazis (and/or violently assaulted) I can pull literally off the top of my head, are not Nazis. They are not even close to Nazis and all three have produced material critical of the Nazis.

Side: Fuck ANTIFA
2 points

I hesitate joining this side of the argument, because taking action against something as disgusting as fascism is almost always better than just allowing it to fester. I say almost, as firstly, I believe in the first amendment totally, and by extrapolation, the right to believe even the most revolting things...(like...oh...the vast majority of humanity deserves to be tortured by fire, forever. I mean, beat that. Fascist beliefs pale next to religion.)

Still, fascism needs to be fought, but this is rather like we fight terrorists - the end result may well create more. I don't really say "Fuck Antifa", but they could use a change of tactics.

Side: Fuck ANTIFA

Nope. Islam is fascist per its own definition of itself. ANTIFA? Not a peep.

But at least they, ANTIFA, are very very white...

Side: Fuck ANTIFA
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

And I think YOU are very......very.......sick. I'm white also and I don't think that adds a THING to ANTIFA. I'm against anything fascist, and anything racist, and anything secular. Apparently, you thrive on it.

Side: Fuck ANTIFA
Sv3rige(170) Clarified
2 points

I hate fascisms as well but hey just because the antifa calls themself an antifascist doesnt make they are good, I can start a movement called "black people unite" that tries to make black animosity. Or i can make a "environmental protection league" that profits from the chopping of trees. I can make also the "murder africa" campaign and use it to give feed to the starving child, a name means nothing.

Side: Fuck ANTIFA
1 point

Hello f:

I dunno about fighting fascism, but they sure are fighting those motherfucking Nazis, and that's cool with me..

Seems to me you don't like Jews much either.. Yeah.. We Jews have been around 4,000 years longer than you, and we're gonna be around another 4,000 years after you've gone extinct.. Maybe there IS something to this Chosen People stuff..

Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha..

excon

Jew

Side: I deserve to die screaming
-1 points

They must be, given that all the fascists are up in arms about them. When the Nazis start accusing the people fighting them of being Nazis, then that's how you know they're effective.

Side: I deserve to die screaming
FactMachine(430) Disputed
1 point

If antifa are so good and are a legitimate antifascist organization then tell me why they attack random people so often? Explain why there victims are NEVER actual neo-nazis? You are mistaken about a great many things my young apprentice.

Side: Fuck ANTIFA
0 points

If antifa are so good

You didn't ask me if I thought they were good. At least stick to your own topic, mate.

Side: I deserve to die screaming
1 point

"After the Civil War and the end of slavery, Democrats built a new regime of white supremacy. It included legalized segregation as well as extra-legal forms of oppression, and it was enforced through regular and horrific acts of terrorist violence. The most flamboyant white supremacists at the turn of the 20th century were Democratic politicians. Like South Carolina Senator “Pitchfork Ben” Tillman, who denounced President Theodore Roosevelt for inviting Booker T. Washington to the White House, vowing that it would require “our killing a thousand n-----s in the South before they learn their place again.” White Supremacy was the foundation of the Democratic party."

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us599e20d6e4b0a62d0987acb4

"Robert Carlyle Byrd (born Cornelius Calvin Sale Jr.; November 20, 1917 – June 28, 2010) was a United States Senator from West Virginia. A member of the Democratic Party, Byrd served as a U.S. Representative from 1953 until 1959 and as a U.S. Senator from 1959 to 2010. He was the longest-serving Senator in United States history. In addition, he was, at the time of his death, the longest-serving member in the history of the United States Congress."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RobertByrd

"Robert C. Byrd was a recruiter for the Klan while in his 20s and 30s, rising to the title of Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops of his local chapter.

Byrd, a Democrat, eventually became his party leader in the Senate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KuKluxKlanmembersinUnitedStates_politics

"Hugo Black successfully defended E. R. Stephenson in his trial for the murder of a Catholic priest, Fr. James E. Coyle. Black, a Democrat, joined the Ku Klux Klan shortly afterwards, in order to gain votes from the anti-Catholic element in Alabama. He built his winning Senate campaign around multiple appearances at KKK meetings across Alabama."

"Bibb Graves, a Democrat, who was the 38th Governor of Alabama."

He lost his first campaign for governor, but four years later, with the endorsement of the Ku Klux Klan, he was elected to his first term as governor. Graves was the Exalted Cyclops (chapter president) of the Montgomery chapter of the Klan."

"Clifford Walker, a Democrat and the 64th Governor of Georgia, was revealed to be a Klan member by the press."

George Gordon, a Democrat and Congressman for Tennessee's 10th congressional district, became one of the Klan's first members."

"John Tyler Morgan, a Democrat and the United States Senator for Alabama, was the Grand Dragon of the KKK in Alabama."

Edmund Pettus, a Democrat and the United States Senator for Alabama, was also a Grand Dragon of the KKK in Alabama."

"John Brown Gordon, a Democrat and the United States Senator for Georgia, was a member of the Klan, the titular head for the state."

"John Clinton Porter, a Democrat, was a member of the Klan."

"David Duke, a politician who ran in both Democrat presidential primaries, was openly involved in the leadership of the Ku Klux Klan. He was founder and Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan in the mid-1970s. He ran for president in the 1988 Democratic presidential primaries."

"Benjamin F. Stapleton, a Democrat, was mayor of Denver. He was a Klan member in the early and appointed fellow Klansmen to positions in municipal government."

Side: Fuck ANTIFA
1 point

Hillary Clinton-

"Robert Byrd, my friend and mentor"

https://youtu.be/ryweuBVJMEA

Side: Fuck ANTIFA