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How are Christians being persecuted? In America? Are Christians being beaten? Lynched? or Arrested for their beliefs? Because that is what happened the African-American in before the Civil Rights era and to homosexuals around the world. That is persecution. And that is not happening in the United States to warrant that Christians are being persecuted.
Simple "ill treatment" qualifies as persecution. Persecution doesn't always have to be absolutely bad. Ya know? It can just be ill treatment, which is what the definition has provided.
Of course! I've heard that in Washington state (for example) they're forced to work long hours in the berry fields on Sundays so they can't worship their messiah... it's disgusting.
If you mean strictly, then of course not, but from I can take from the title alone, I have to say yes. Christians are being persecuted everywhere. It's especially common online, where one's anonymity acts as a booster for ignorance and rude comments.
So are other religions as well, under that logic. The question is wether they are persecuted enough to warrant complaining about it like Srom the noob does.
Changing the argument doesn't make your point stronger. It actually makes it look weaker by showing your insecurities with opposition.
Alas, i'll play along. What exactly warrants complaints. For some it may be pain bordering on death, for others it may be a simple splinter. Following that reasoning anything asides from peace is worthy of complaint for some.
Changing the argument doesn't make your point stronger. It actually makes it look weaker by showing your insecurities with opposition.
I changed it not to further my point, but to prevent misunderstandings, that's why it says clarified. Technically all groups are prosecuted under that logic.
No. You keep misunderstanding. I am not changing the debate to further my points, it is to prevent further misunderstandings like the one we have here now.
I understand that you started the debate as the question
"Are Christians being persecuted in America?"
Then you altered it to make your point
"Are they being persecuted enough to warrant complaint."
Then again you altered it to the point that it may as well be a statement.
"Are Christians being persecuted in America more than any other group?"
That final amendment to the debate makes it no longer a debate, but a question. A question with an obvious answer than can be researched, relayed, and in need of no further questioning.
If all you have is a question with one accusatory answer, then why put it forth at all. That'd be similar to asking is Clarence a name.
Initially i thought this was an unbiased debate, founded out of curiosity. In wonderment over the idea that Christians, as common as they are, are being persecuted.
Then after your revision I realized this was a biased argument, that was founded out of spite aimed at religion, accusing them in saying they have no reason to complain.
After dashing that argument, it was then again revised, to what I imagined it started out as, as a question with a solid answer, that's still accusatory to Christianity.
My question is this: We know Christianity is not the most persecuted religion, so why ask this question at all?
Initially i thought this was an unbiased debate, founded out of curiosity. In wonderment over the idea that Christians, as common as they are, are being persecuted. As such, I attempt to debate the ridiculous notion as often as I can.
Then after your revision I realized this was a biased argument, that was founded out of spite aimed at religion, accusing them in saying they have no reason to complain.
It was not based out of spite at the religion. I dislike it when some people say Christians are being persecuted.
After dashing that argument, it was then again revised, to what I imagined it started out as, as a question with a solid answer, that's still accusatory to Christianity.
I am not accusing Christianity in general, I am targeting this at a specific type of people (Srom).
The fact that this is a question with a solid answer that some people refuse to acknowledge is what drove me to make the debate in the first place.
Christians ARE being persecuted, before your revisions you had even agreed to that.
So you are targeting srom, that makes this a personal dispute rather than a public argument. Your personal dispute with Srom is, that he says Christians are being persecuted, and you are saying that they are not being persecuted more than any other religion I say, that has nothing to do with us.
Like a lot of atheists, I frequently pretend to be a Christian in public to avoid persecution. Where in the United States would a Christian actually be persecuted?
No, American isn't preforming a religious apartheid against Christians. Majority of Americans, and politicians are Christians. Now some Americans what socially isolate other sects of Christianity for being too extreme, but the Christian community isn't being persecuted in America. If the people who believe to persecution of Christian as the recent legalization of same-sex marriage, and the fight to stop anti-abortion law, then they need to look up the definition of persecution and some infamous historical examples of the subject
