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Debate Score:141
Arguments:67
Total Votes:188
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Are Conservatives Hypocrits?

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Side Score: 72
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No

Side Score: 69
4 points

They hate religious fundamentalists and theocratic countries, but want Christianity made the official religion of the U.S. and have the Bible taught in public school.

Side: yes

I oppose that part of the conservatives. That's why I'm a libertarian.

Side: yes
Bradf0rd(1431) Disputed
4 points

I oppose that part of the partisans. That's why I'm [registered] independent.

Side: Everyone is hypocritical to an extent
Bradf0rd(1431) Disputed
3 points

The debate is whether or not conservatives are hypocrites. Your argument is that religious fundamentalists that live under biblical law before United States law and wish to see the bible taught in public schools, BUT who are also conservative are hypocritical.

Notice the difference between your argument and the debate topic:

Debate:

Conservatives

Your Argument:

Theocratic Christian Fundamentalist, Conservatives

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Side: No
Cerin(206) Disputed
3 points

Is that an unfair characterization? Are you arguing that most "conservatives" wish to see less religion in government, and preach a more liberal interpretation of the Bible in church?

I'll grant you that not every conservative is a "Theocratic Christian Fundamentalist", but I'd argue the ones who aren't are in the minority.

Side: yes
Grandpa(69) Disputed
2 points

Your looking at the extreme conservatives and religious fanatics not main stream conservatives. Looking to extreme liberals you could people just as narrow minded and hateful.

Side: No
ledhead818(638) Disputed
1 point

What extreme liberal policies are hateful? Anti-death penalty, illegal immigrant amnesty, drug legalization?

Side: yes
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

It's like you are making stuff up. Most conservatives don't want the bible taught in public school. I personaly don't see what the problem would be as long as it is optional. Like an elective or something.

"want Christianity made the official religion of the U.S."

This country was founded on principles of christianity and most of the country is christian.(or at least say that they are) If there was an official religion it would be christianity. But there is not.

Side: No
Cerin(206) Disputed
2 points

And if you seriously think "Most conservatives don't want the bible taught in public school", then I'd truly like to live in your world.

However, after 8 years of Bush, where science has consistently played a back-seat in policy making, I have trouble seeing that.

Also, we have conservative think tanks like "The Discovery Institute", which are trying to claim Creationism/ID is a science. Combine that with the fact that nearly 50% of Americans think evolution is wrong and that the Bible is literal fact, and you can see where I'm coming from.

Side: yes
Cerin(206) Disputed
1 point

This country was founded on principles of christianity and most of the country is christian.(or at least say that they are) If there was an official religion it would be christianity. But there is not.

Incorrect. This country was founded on the principles of democracy, which date to the pre-Christian times of the ancient Greeks. Since one of the ten commandments is "thou shalt not worship false idols", we wouldn't have the freedom of religion if the country were founded on the "principles of Christianity".

Also, nearly 20% of the population defines themselves as atheist, agnostic, or otherwise un-religious. That's far too large a percentage to declare Christianity the official religion, in the sense that an "official" religion would be enforced through required classes in school, tax breaks for church members, etc.

Side: yes
3 points

They prefer to support violent oppressive dictators and regimes rather than popular socialist or communistic governments.

Side: yes
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

Says who? We support neither of the two. They are not that different.

Side: No
Cerin(206) Disputed
3 points

We (e.g. Reagan and Bush the 1st) supported Saddam (through money and arms sales) during his war against Iran. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran–Iraq_war

We (e.g. Reagan) supported the brutal Contra guerrilla group in Nicaragua instead of the country's official socialist government. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair

We acknowledged the Cuba dictatorship of Batista, but not the communistic revolution lead by Castro. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba-United_States_relations#Relations_1900.E2.80.931959

The list goes on, but I trust you're able a history book.

Side: yes
2 points

Like I said with liberals. Everybody is a hyprocrite and conservitives are included with everybody.

Side: yes
2 points

Yes because, they are "pro life", yet have no problem starting a war.

Side: yes
1 point

Most describe themselves as "pro-life", but love shooting things, capital punishment, and starting costly wars in which millions of civilians die.

Side: yes
0 points

pro-life is protecting innocent babies.

capital punishment is killing guilty cold blooded murderers.

war is killing soldiers working for evil dictators & killing terrorists.

Side: No
Bradf0rd(1431) Disputed
2 points

"pro-life is protecting innocent babies."

What about all of the innocent GROWN PEOPLE that need protection!? Fuck them, right? We already have too many innocent people out there in the world, what we need is more innocent babies! yeah...

"capital punishment is killing guilty cold blooded murderers"

These guilty people were once innocent babies.

"war is killing soldiers working for evil dictators & killing terrorists."

And you're always on the side of the righteous, right? Never with the evil dictators. Quick, kill me before I figure out... arghhh.... x_x

Side: Everyone is hypocritical to an extent
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
-1 points

Liberals call themselves pro-choice, then choose to have sex and get pregnant before they are ready to have a baby. Then they want to choose to destroy a life of an unborn child because they are selfish. The choice is made when they get pregnant. The choice to have a baby, or not.

As for shooting things, people and animals are not equal.

And are you seriously comparing abortion to capital punishment!?

Side: No
Cerin(206) Disputed
2 points

Yes, I am seriously comparing them. You can't claim life is sacred and then take pleasure in killing, directly or indirectly, animal or human.

Side: yes
1 point

They support trading with communist China and Vietnam, but are opposed to trading with communist Cuba.

Side: yes
1 point

We support trading with China because that's where everything is made.

They oppose trading with Cuba because of other reasons.

Side: No
Cerin(206) Disputed
1 point

Everything's made there because we allow trade with them.

To summarize:

- communism with a billion people working in sweatshops to make crap = good

- communism without a billion people working in sweatshop to make crap = evil

It's hypocrisy.

Side: yes
1 point

They vote against the federal stimulus plan, and then accept billions in federal stimulus money.

Side: yes

I have three words in response to this: Hello, Bristol Palin!

Side: yes
1 point

Yes. I have been the victim of bullying by conservatives to the point that I was ready to kill myself. I was set up and falsely accused of stalking and thrown off of this website based on bullshit politics. I am better off with liberals.

Side: Yes

Many Conservatives are hypocrites. These Conservatives love to put on a mask to hide their evil ways.

Side: Yes
0 points

They hate our dependence on foreign oil, but make a point of driving the biggest, least fuel efficient vehicles, and actively oppose investing in alternative and renewable sources of energy.

Side: yes
2 points

They hate our dependency because foreign oil is expensive.

They want to drill here & get our own oil.

They don't drive cars just because they aren't efficent, they drive them because they work better.

& they do not oppose alternative fuels. John McCain supported all of the above.

Side: No
Cerin(206) Disputed
0 points

Are you serious? You say conservatives think oil is expensive, but then say they don't care about fuel efficiency? Do you even think before you post?

You don't think they hate our dependency because foreign oil is funds governments like Saudi Arabia that give money to terrorist groups and the families of suicide bombers.

We don't have enough domestic sources of oil to even make a dent in how much oil we import.

Consumer Reviews consistently show most U.S. brands with the least quality, reliability, and fuel efficiency.

Side: yes
MKIced(2511) Disputed
0 points

I don't like foreign oil because it's expensive and it makes it so the country the oil is from has power over us.

I drive a Honda Accord and only drive to and from my destinations. I use as little gas as possible.

We should drill in our own nation to become more independent on oil and we should invest in alternate fuels. Oil is not a renewable resource; it will run out eventually.

Side: No
5 points

If you mean conservative politicians then yes. Of course the same thing could be said of liberal politicians. As a general statement though the answer is no being conservative doesn't equate to being a hypocrite just like being a liberal doesn't necessarily mean your an atheist.

Side: No
Cerin(206) Disputed
4 points

Statistically, this isn't the case. The more religious a person is, the more likely they are to vote for a conservative political candidate.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-06-02-religion-gap_x.htm

Side: yes
Sitara(11080) Disputed
1 point

I am very religious and I would not vote for a conservative if you held a gun to my head.

Side: No
3 points

as i've pointed out in the liberal debate, some conservatives are hypocrits, but conservatism isn't hypocritical.

same can be said for liberals.

Side: No
2 points

random down vote? obviously someone was too stupid to encounter my argument.

lulz, stupid people on the interwebz.

Side: No
2 points

The only reason I'm saying "no" is because you simply made a debate to counter the one on liberals being hypocrites without any substantial evidence like the other debate has. If you actually took the time out to come up with a few examples, I'd probably say "yes". Both sides are somewhat hypocritical, but that doesn't mean individuals are. Like me, I try not to be a hypocrite.

Side: No
3 points

I had these two from the git too! The Slash boy just keeps repeating himself for points while the other gives you one rebuttal in 12 separate sentences for points. Why bother with either...it's like buttering you toast with glue...you get nowhere. Neither can even spell hypocrite!

Side: All people are hypocrites
Cerin(206) Disputed
3 points

You're right, I did create this to counter your trolling debate. "All liberals are tree huggers who hate people"?! Yeah, great "evidence".

Side: yes
Cerin(206) Disputed
3 points

If you want evidence, all you have to do is look at the news over the last decade. Bush's biggest supporters are Evangelical Christians who want more religion and less science in every facet of everyone's life, because they believe their philosophy makes the world a better place.

Two wars, millions dead, and a ruined economy later, you bet I'm calling conservatives hypocrites.

Side: yes
1 point

Its ignorant to say a group of people, most of which you don't even know, are hypocrites.

Side: No