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Debate Score:129
Arguments:54
Total Votes:146
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Are Goths evil?

A few people have been saying this, what do you thimk?

Yes

Side Score: 13
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No

Side Score: 116
1 point

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa they are coz my ex friend is 1 haaaaa toooo you

Side: yes
indigolover(51) Disputed
4 points

Were you just using looooooooooooooooooooooooooooong words to get over the 50 charactr limit? Also, just because your EX-FRIEND was a goth it doesn't mean all goths are evil...

Also, this is your EX-FRIEND, so you may be a bit biased? Just a suggestion

Side: No
-1 points

Yes, Goths are evil, if by evil you mean extremely self-centered. Goths are unhealthy creatures with their heads up their own asses. All they care about is their own misery, their miserable music and their miserable appearance. But why single out Goths? Everyone is evil.

Side: yes
TheHallow1(78) Disputed
7 points

Speaking of people with their head up their own ass, how you doing?

Side: No
shirotora92(3) Disputed
5 points

I believe you are thinking of emos, which are generally considered "whiny-new-age-hippies" without jobs and have life handed to them. Goths simply listen to good music, wear a single color (generally black or white) and hate conformity.

Side: No
1 point

How are they hating conformity, by dressing the same and listening to the same bands? It sounds like they are embracing conformity. A true non-conformist can not be placed in a group or clique.

Side: yes
oopalagol(4) Disputed
1 point

Since when are Goths self-centered? We are generally very happy people, and just because we wear black/other dark colors all the time doesn't mean we are bad people, or depressed. What I want to know is were the hell to you get these kind of ideas?

I wish you major negative points.

Side: No
oopalagol(4) Disputed
1 point

You obviously don't know the first thing about Goths. Writing that argument was a huge mistake on your part.

Side: No
-1 points

frankly i believe that they are evil. they protray themselves in a manner that gives people the indicatoin that they are apart of something supernatural, something demonic and yes something evil.

Side: yes
4 points

And by judging them, you are portraying yourself as better than them, or higher than them on a religious scale from which it is alright to judge them. Which is, in fact, pride... which is the root of a lot of the evil in the world. And honestly, I would like to know anything more demonic than judging others and pride, which is why they fell from heaven in the first place. Seriously though, give me one thing that makes them demonic?

Side: No
oopalagol(4) Disputed
1 point

We do NOT portray ourselves as anything evil or demonic.

(ok, supernatural, maybe,) What's evil and demoic is how people like you see us.

Side: No
Elvira(3447) Disputed
1 point

Do you know how many people have that avatar? It's getting confusing.

Yes, as a goth I sometimes do dress to look intimidating- it's good for not getting trampled in a crwded area. Supernatural does not always mean evil!

Side: No
5 points

Of course not. They merely have a different perspective on the world. Does that make them evil? No. It astounds me how some people can be so quick to call something or someone they don't understand "evil".

Side: No
5 points

Don't be fooled! Goth is a form of modern counterculture/subculture highlighted for it's fashion and musical characteristics. Theology of the group is based on a realist, and possibly pessimist, notion of life. The condition of evil can only be applied to a particular person, and not a group (unless that group is the evil group). Those that attribute evil to groups, such as Goths, are ignorant.

Side: No
5 points

No. RomAntiquely passionate.

Side: No
5 points

I don't see why they would be. A bit off-color maybe.

Side: No
5 points

It's a pun.

Side: No
5 points

Of course not all goths are evil technically it depends on who you are and what you're personality is not what group of people its like saying every one who is a Christian but again not true. However I know the host very well as she is one of my best friends and in her case yes she is evil thats why we get on so well there's is a contrasts and contrasts are good between us at least.

Side: No
SceneKid(20) Disputed
2 points

Ummm... Beth, contrast? Your evil too. Good point you made about christians

Side: yes
oopalagol(4) Disputed
1 point

I got from your comments that you are Goth, but believe yourself to be evil. What the heck is up with that?

Side: No
5 points

No. they just express themselves in their own ways that might come off as "scary"or "evil" to others. but they again the way you are is probably "scary" or maybe even "evil" to someone else. i think that just because someone looks a certain way doesn't determine that they are evil.

Side: No
5 points

No I do not believe they are. They just have a different er not so popular view on the world.

Side: No
5 points

Goths are not evil. I know some goths, and they are very kind. They have a different perspective on life, and we should allow them that. They are not evil.

Side: No
4 points

To everyone who has supported me, thanks, your awesome. :-D To everyone who hasn't, I'm really not bothered, it's just your opinion.

Peace out,

The Unknown Goth

Side: No
5 points

lol em since when hav u been secret n wen hav u been a goth

i thought u were more indie now

luv ur best friend

howard/herbet/ u no who

which 1 do u want rachel 2 call him hav fun at da disco

Side: No

Not more than any other person... People are horrible people in general...

Side: No
2 points

I have studied goths for years and personally I can speak without bias.

The gothic culture seems quite harmless. they display a darker personality and love some darker things. nothing that bad

Side: No
1 point

See? All you people who don't like us? Why don't you try doing what this person did. Then you can decide whether Goths are evil

Side: No
2 points

How could they possibly be evil? Just because they have a different perspective on the world? You dont know what has happened in there lives, how could you call them evil.

Side: No
1 point

I agree. Black and the night are supposed to be "evil," but to a handful of (in my opinion correct) people, these things are beautiful.

Side: No
1 point

Anyone who thinks Goths are evil obviously has never met anyone who is goth. If they have, they judged them immediately as someone bad, just because they're not normal. And strange people are awesome. Also I want to say that there are plenty of Goths who a religious, that is to say worshiping god, and not Satan. I have never met any goth who does drugs, rapes, hurts themselves, or does anything generally bad. Most people confuse Goth with Emo. Although they both started out as a kind of music, Emo people are the whiny, self-obsessed, suicide-committing kids that many Goths are labeled as.

-An angry Goth

Side: No
1 point

I don't think it's fair to call a whole subculture evil. No one is truly evil. As much as it pains me to say this, there a likely Goths who are bad. (there are likely preps or popular kids who are bad too.) But bad goths are certainly not bad because they are Goths.

Side: No
1 point

What makes anyone think that Goths are evil? Of course they're not. If you think that Goths are evil, you need to learn a little more about them.

Side: No
1 point

If normal people stopped judging weird people, and found out what it really means to be Goth, then everyone would be happy.

Side: No
1 point

People who think that Goths are evil are racist. I'm serious. It's not that different from hating African Americans.

Side: No
1 point

Until you really understand a subculture/culture/person, you are not in a place to judge that person.

Side: No
1 point

No one is fully evil, but if anyone was, it would be the people who thought other people were evil. I know, I'm judging all of the people (I mean idiots) who think Goths are evil.

Side: No
1 point

Goths are dark, romantic, abnormal, and snarky. (if you don't know what I mean, just look at the arguments from Goths.) Does that sound evil to you? Ok, snarky people aren't always nice, but only in things like this debate, because most Goths (that I know, anyway,) are passionate, and should be, about whether they are evil or not.

Side: No
1 point

Why is it that unpopular people/views get put down so often? I'm sorry if you don't like how we (Goths) NATURALLY ARE, but it's not are problem if you think that.

Side: No
1 point

I am surprised at how many people mix up Goth and Emo. I don't want to judge Emo people, but I don't think hurting yourself is a good way out of a bad situation.

Side: No
1 point

Obviously, anyone who thought that Goths are evil lost big time.

What was that comment about having your head up your ass?

Side: No
1 point

Evil is (In my understanding) a matter of actions. Sure there's some Goths that I'd consider 'evil', not because they're Goths (It has nothing to do with being Goth) but because they are just horrible people that do horrible things to others. Not all Goths are nice people, because not all people are nice people. There's nasty, evil people everywhere, and what clothes they wear, music they listen to, or subculture they fit into, doesn't make them any more or less evil. Saying that Goths are evil just because there's a few bad ones, is like saying all people are evil just because there's a few bad ones. I know a few Christians that are really horrible, evil people, does that mean Christians are evil? Nope.

Side: No
1 point

Goths are no more evil than anyone else, the nastiest group of people I have met are the trendy dressing "normal" types who pick on people just for dressing differently. When I was growing up I saw more violence from these types than anyone else and I was hanging out with all the alledgedly bad people, Skinheads, Bikers, Punks and Psychobillies and we were the ones who got a bad reputation!!

Side: No

Just because Goths wear black does not mean that they are evil.

Side: No
1 point

Anyone can be evil.Goth has nothing do with it.Some of the nice people I have ever met are goths.Some of the nasty people I have met call themselves "people of God." So please get to know a person before you call them evil or whatnot. I will add this song to prove my point...

Supporting Evidence: Bratz Who I Am. (youtu.be)
Side: No
Foxglove(205) Clarified
1 point

It is not so much that they are evil in disposition (indeed, some may be fairly amiable upon acquaintance) but more that the culture which informs their identity is evil. The features commonly associated with and embodied by Gothic culture are characteristic of themes which are more synonymous with evil than good. Therefore, when an individual opts to affiliate with said symbolism, it is understandable that people would struggle to isolate personality from adopted identity in forming their opinion. That is how potent a domain imagery is, particularly as it is the first thing we are confronted with before any manner of relationship can be established.

Side: Yes
1 point

Not really. To be honest people really need to get this fact straight. "Don't judge the book by it's cover."

Side: No
1 point

No, they're so many stereotypes on the goth culture. I'm goth. I'm not depressed (usually),

I do listen to metal bands and have a darker sense of humor and view of the world, but not an evil. We don't (most of us) sleep around and we are happy people too. Being goth is basically being yourself. Fully. Never comparing yourself to others. There is so much more to say but all you have to do is just look up the stereotypes and actually befriend a "goth". Then compare and see for yourself. We also don't worship satan. i'm a die hard chrisitian.

Side: No
1 point

Painting an entire sub-culture as evil simply because you don't understand or like the way they look, is pretty evil. So of the two I'd say I'd rather trust a Goth then a person who condemns over looks.

Side: No

No. It's just people. Although there are always exceptions but the Goths I know are definitely not evil. Live and let live.

Side: No
-1 points

Yes. Sorry Emily but but I can't back down. And anyway you're much better as a sloth.

Side: yes
SceneKid(20) Disputed
0 points

Millie, (A.K.A person with boring name) please be quiet...

Side: yes