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Libs hate Israel Nazis hate Jews
Debate Score:31
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Total Votes:36
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Are Nazis pro Israel and pro Jerusalem as its capital?

Libs hate Israel

Side Score: 6
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Nazis hate Jews

Side Score: 25
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Hello bront:

I notice a rash of posts from you claiming the Nazis are socialists.. I fear thou doth protest TOO much.. What? Did you notice something Nazilike going on in the White House???

excon

Side: Libs hate Israel
5 points

I notice a rash of posts from you claiming the Nazis are socialists

Actually, the Nazis themselves claimed to be socialists and Marxists. I did a whole debate on it.

Side: Nazis hate Jews
TX43 Disputed
1 point

Actually, the Nazis themselves claimed to be socialists and Marxists.

The very fact that you get your information from the Nazis tells us all we need to know about you.

And no, they didn't claim to be Marxists. Hitler was quite literally the biggest anti-Communist who ever lived. This is not even arguable. He dedicated his entire life to the persecution of Communists, you effing liar.

The political views of Adolf Hitler have presented historians and biographers with some difficulty. His writings and methods were often adapted to need and circumstance, although there were some steady themes, including anti-semitism, anti-communism, anti-parliamentarianism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PoliticalviewsofAdolfHitler

Hitler personally claimed he was fighting against Jewish Marxism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PoliticalviewsofAdolfHitler

Side: Libs hate Israel
5 points

What? Did you notice something Nazilike going on in the White House???

Hitler-

Antisemitic

Socialist

Anti-capitalist

Pro Palestinian

Pro Islam

Burned churches down

Killed his political adversaries

Invaded countries

Disarmed the citizenry

Baked Jews in furnaces

Answer? No. Not really...

Side: Nazis hate Jews
TX43 Disputed
1 point

Socialist

Liar.

Nazism is a form of fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Positionwithinthepoliticalspectrum

Man says Nazis were socialist, gets schooled by history writer

https://www.indy100.com/article/nazi-socialist-right-wing-white-supremacists-history-twitter-mikestuchbery-7900001

Anti-capitalist

Liar.

Capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/

Pro Palestinian

Liar.

He was involved in planning "wartime operations directed against Palestine and Iraq, including parachuting Germans and Arab agents to foment attacks against the Jews in Palestine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RelationsbetweenNaziGermanyandtheArabworld

Pro Islam

Liar.

Hitler privately demeaned ethnic groups he associated with Islam, notably Arabs, as racially inferior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReligiousviewsofAdolf_Hitler

Burned churches down

List of Hitler quotes — he was quite the vocal Catholic

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/ 08/23/list-of-hitler-quotes-he-was-q/

YOU ARE AN EFFING LIAR.

Side: Libs hate Israel
Talkative(51) Disputed
1 point

But yes Nazis had huge overlaps with socialist theory. That's why they defined themselves as National socialists and not just the regular types

Side: Nazis hate Jews
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Yes STUPOR STUPID the Nazis elected an American President for the 1st time in history !!!!!!!!!

Side: Nazis hate Jews
1 point

The fascists who took control of Israel were/are exactly like the Nazis. Scoffing at the idea isn't going to change the facts of who these people are and what these people have done. They have committed genocide, killed with banned chemical weapons, attacked schools, hospitals and civilian compounds, committed acts of terrorism and -- most chillingly of all -- they use exactly the same rhetoric as the Nazis. The only real difference is that instead of believing the Aryan race is superior, they believe their own religion is superior.

This phenomena is actually very common and has been well-studied by social psychologists the world over. People who have been abused have an increased risk of eventually becoming abusers.

The deception in your argument is very clear because you are very very selective about how you describe the Nazis and their behaviour. You have in fact fractioned down the entire philosophy of the Nazis to hating Jews, and are simply ignoring everything else. Even more frighteningly, the reason you are doing this is because when one starts to unravel the beliefs of the Nazis in more depth/detail, it becomes obvious very quickly how much in common they have with the Israelis.

Side: Libs hate Israel
5 points

They have committed genocide, killed with banned chemical weapons, attacked schools, hospitals and civilian compounds, committed acts of terrorism and -- most chillingly of all -- they use exactly the same rhetoric as the Nazis

So basically you're accusing them of being Islam.

Side: Nazis hate Jews
5 points

when one starts to unravel the beliefs of the Nazis in more depth/detail, it becomes obvious very quickly how much in common they have with the Israelis.

Except that Israel isn't invading half of Europe, killing Jews, siding with the Palestinians, burning down churches, demonizing the United States...

Islam is...

Side: Nazis hate Jews
TX43 Disputed
1 point

Except that Israel isn't invading half of Europe, killing Jews

Except Israel is doing things like this:-

Human Rights Watch report claims Israel committed war crimes.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/mar/25/israel-white-phosphorus-gaza

Revealed: the Palestinian children killed by Israeli forces

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10984606/Revealed-the-Palestinian-children-killed-by-Israeli-forces.html

Israel leads in ignoring Security Council resolutions

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5127043

The Israeli government continued to enforce severe and discriminatory restrictions on Palestinians' human rights.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/israel/palestine

Turkish President accuses Israel of 'genocide' after Palestinian deaths

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/turkey-recalls-ambassadors-erdogan-israel-gaza-protests-genocide-us-embassy-jerusalem-border-fence-a8351746.html

You are an effing LIAR, who is trying to reduce Nazi policy and ideology down to anti-Semitism alone, simply so you can claim the Israelis can't be Nazis because they are persecuting a different ethnic group. It's effing PATHETIC bronto. Pathetic.

Side: Libs hate Israel
2 points

From what I know Hitler did want a Jewish state for them all to go to and leave Europe. But I doubt it was for the good of the Jews and was probably so they could be rounded up in one place and killed there.

Side: Nazis hate Jews