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Debate Score:34
Arguments:31
Total Votes:42
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Are Transsexuals abominations?

Transgender people are people that go against the gender assigned at birth. Please keep the Bible/religion in general out of this. We need facts. Science can't back up the Bible.

Yes.

Side Score: 15
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No.

Side Score: 19
4 points

Hello S:

The dictionary says an "a·bom·i·na·tion

/əˌbäməˈnāSH(ə)n/

noun

1. a thing that causes disgust or hatred"

What interests me is NOT what you think.. It's what you wanna DO about it.. If NOTHING, then thank you for your opinion.. If SOMETHING, try reading the Constitution..

excon

Side: Yes.
2 points

Hello again,

I need to expand on what I said..

I'm NOT a homosexual. I don't ENGAGE in homosexuality. I'm not fond of homosexuals. I don't wanna BE a homosexual. The act disgusts me...

Having said all that, I plan to DO nothing about it, because in this great country of ours, they're FREE to choose how they wanna live.. In fact, I plan to fight against doing something about it for the same reasons.. I LOVE freedom.

excon

Side: Yes.
Grenache(5532) Clarified
1 point

By that definition, people who are homophobes are themselves abominations.

Side: Yes.
excon(4266) Disputed
1 point

Hello G:

Nahhh... What disgusts me, may not disgust you. I assume homosexuals don't think they commit abominations. Besides that, it's none of my business anyway..

Look.. In a free nation there's a LOT of stuff going on that I don't agree with.. The point is, I don't HAVE to agree with it in order to support their right to do it..

Do I need to say that I'm speaking about adult consensual behavior?? Proly..

excon

Side: No.
FromWithin(5443) Disputed
1 point

By that definition, people who vote for No Restriction abortion Democrats are themselves abominations.

Side: No.
Jace(4528) Disputed
1 point

This is a case of mistaken attribution of cause.

Transsexuals do not cause disgust or hatred (if they did then the response would be universal, which it isn't). People who originate disgust and hatred within themselves cause disgust and hatred.

Side: No.
excon(4266) Disputed
1 point

Hello J:

I don't disagree with you in the slightest.. I don't blame transsexsuals for the way I feel..

excon

Side: Yes.
2 points

the bible is baked up by science many thing in the bible are scientific

Side: Yes.
EldonG(478) Disputed
1 point

Oh, please, do tell. If anything in that book has anything too do with science, I missed it in the years I studied it. How about I take an odd twist on this debate - if god's creations are as he intended, and we know the brains of gay and transsexuals are more similar to the opposite sex, then obviously, they were intended to be transsexual.

That said, I don't believe in any of the myths that get pushed as gods, and just see transsexualism as a part of our evolution. I wouldn't use the word abomination, it carries a terrible connotation.

Side: No.
1 point

This idea of transsexuality is an abomination itself. What you are born as biologically, is what you are meant to be and people should accept that. It goes against nature and God himself, not accepting what you are. This group of people also try to make society accept them as what they want themselves to be and if people don't, they look at those people as bad people. Transsexuals themselves are a confused or just plain out denying group of people , who don't wanna accept what they are biologically.

Side: Yes.
2 points

What you are born as biologically, is what you are meant to be and people should accept that

So if you are born with an illness then you should refuse to take medicine in order to get better? That's daft mate.

Side: No.
TheLegend77(-3) Clarified
1 point

How are you gonna compare an illness, which is something you are born with, with transgenderism, which is something an individual has to get surgery for? Very weak comparison

Side: Yes.
UpForDebate(11) Clarified
1 point

I agree that transsexuals should accept who/what they are. It is how god made them, however, we are to love and care for them. Calling them abominations means we will not be able to lead them to God and help them learn to except who they are.

Side: Yes.
3 points

They are not hurting anyone, and we need to stop hurting them. I am a firm believer of this.

Side: No.
1 point

The only humans who are abominations are those who deliberately contribute to senseless destruction. If you poison a city's water supply to make everyone sick, or you get a kick out of being a serial killer, then you're an abomination.

If you have a disease that disfigures your looks then even if some see you as a monster you are not an abomination.

If you brought harm to others but it was truly involuntary or accidental then you're not an abomination.

Applying all this, what is it the transexual does that is offensive? They're either self identifying as transexual or engaging in mutually consensual sex with another adult. No one is being harmed. Nothing is being put through senseless destruction. They are not abominations.

But I'll tell you this. If you use your religious belief to try to round them all up and kill them for being unnatural in the eyes of your religion then YOU become the abomination.

Side: No.
FromWithin(5443) Disputed
1 point

You say...."The only humans who are abominations are those who deliberately contribute to senseless destruction."

Yes, you delibertely elect corrupt politicians who keep it legal to kill even viable special needs babies for merely being different. That makes you an abomination.

You say...."If you have a disease that disfigures your looks then even if some see you as a monster you are not an abomination."

Yes, when a special needs baby has a health issue that makes him look different, or talk differently, there are people like you who see him as expendable and support KILLING HIM!

You say...."If you brought harm to others but it was truly involuntary or accidental then you're not an abomination".

Yes, but you delibertely elect politicians who make it legal to deliberately kill viable special needs babies.

On all counts, by your own words, YOU ARE AN ABOMINATION!

Keep piously preaching you unbelievable hypocrite!

Side: Yes.
Grenache(5532) Disputed
1 point

It's not "senseless destruction". It is pregnant women who came to their senses and know either they are unable at that time to properly raise that child or in the case of failing pregnancies know the best scenario for everyone is to end that pregnancy so the clock can restart on trying again to have a successful pregnancy.

Side: No.
Dermot(3644) Disputed
0 points

BUT YOU TOTALLY SUPPORT UNRESTRICTED ABORTIONS

You stated last week that god in the bible only sanctioned abortion because the unborn babies were " evil " proving as I keep telling you that you totally approve of unrestricted abortion if god is doing it ; you then pathetically back -tracked and wailed " you're taking the bible out of context " to which I reasonably asked " what is the right context for god commanding and sanctioning abortion "

The resulting silence has been deafening and as usual you resort to your childish ....IGNORE

You make an exceptionally poor role model for Christianity . You are mentally unbalanced and seething with spite and rage

Side: No.
AlofRI(1835) Clarified
0 points

Well said, Grenache (and excon)! There is little I can add that wouldn't be embellishment of the same points. :-)

Side: Yes.