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Yes! Yes I am! I love sexism!
Debate Score:244
Arguments:133
Total Votes:290
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Are You As Sick of the Sexism on The Internet as I am?

I'm a  lady, and I've found that the internet- INCLUDING sites that one might expect to be filled with intelligent, even enlightened folk, like CreateDebate- is filled with ridiculous amounts of sexism. There are debates about conservatives "sleeping with liberals women", and it's incredibly common to wind up in debates where your opinion is labled as unworthy becasue of your gender. 

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Yes! Yes I am!

Side Score: 127
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I love sexism!

Side Score: 117
6 points

That particular debate is a farce but yes, I am sick of sexism everywhere. When I first joined this site I participated in several debates about sexism and came up against astoundingly ignorant and hateful counterarguments. I do believe things are slowly changing though so the best we can do is perpetuate the trend by educating where we can and chipping away at misinformation and ignorance.

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4 points

I, too, am sick of sexism on the internet and I am sick of people telling me I should just accept said sexism and "lighten up". (I'm also tired of the kitchen-sandwich jokes. I mean, can't anyone come up with an original and witty quip at least?)

"[S]studies have shown that exposure to this type of humor [i.e., sexist "humor"] increases rape proclivity..."

"[R]esearch demonstrates that exposure to sexist humor can create conditions that allow men – especially those who have antagonistic attitudes toward women – to express those attitudes in their behavior... The acceptance of sexist humor leads men to believe that sexist behavior falls within the bounds of social acceptability."

Yeah, "hilarious".

See also: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071106083038.htm

Supporting Evidence: Sexist "humor" and rape proclivity (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)
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iamdavidh(4850) Disputed
4 points

... studies show also that exposure to a driver's license increases car accident proclivity.

As with most studies of this nature, someone confused cause and effect for the purpose of securing a grant.

It goes both ways madamecherry. Find a Best Buy, Fast Food, or Super Market commercial where the male is not the bumbling idiot and smart wife doesn't come to the rescue.

Why is it okay for women to have a stereotypical idea of the male on TV where the parody is not nearly as obvious, but one cannot make an obvious satirical comment on a debate about who fucks who concerning Dems and Republicans?

Why is one okay and not the other?

Sexism is a real thing, but it does not help to see it around every corner and in every shadow.

| Side: overreacting does not help
Imright(2) Disputed
0 points

No, no, no. Wrong again. This study sounds perfectly grounded in logic to me and the comparison you give sounds illogical. Sexist humor does make sexism seem socially acceptable. Certain types of humor is just a thin guise for meanness and if you subscribe to that way of thinking you will think it's funny and laugh and if you don't subscribe to that way of thinking you will find it unfunny and distasteful. And before you go saying I have no sense of humor, stop. I have a great sense of humor and laugh often, but I am also smart enough to know jokes can be very mean-spiritied.

Portraying a man as a bumbling idiot in a commercial could be an example of that mean-spritedness I just spoke of, it depends on how it's done. Or it could just be youseeing reverse sexism where there is none. ;)

Sorry I didn't get the comment about the Dems and Repubs or I would have addressed that too.

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3 points

Yeah! It's bullcrap.

I mean, how come I have to be nicer to a girl with a dumb opinion than I have to be to a guy? Like, why should I have to compensate for the varying degrees of sensitivity in the opposite sex?

That's totally sexist of a girl to expect me to be nicer to them based on tits and some ovaries.

._.

| Side: overreacting does not help
xander(437) Disputed
2 points

Why is it okay to respond to a girls argument by calling her a cunt and telling her to put dick in her mouth? I'm equal-opportunity for calling out dumb people, but no one is asking you to be nicer to dumb ladies than gents; it's the whole TOGTFO mentality that I was referring to.

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iamdavidh(4850) Disputed
2 points

1. I myself have not told you or anyone on here to "put a dick in their mouth"

2. If I were to say to a guy "put a dick in your mouth" he would not start a debate decrying the rapant sexism on the internet, but many women would

hence double standard.

I can call my best friend a homo who likes it in the ass in jest. I have yet to meet a girl no matter how "cool" or how much of a tomboy she claims to be, who would not take something like "you're a whore who likes to take it in the ass" said in jest as anything but a deep personal offense.

Varying degrees of sensitivity.

Not every girl is the same, not every guy. But it is unfair to expect a guy to consider the feelings of every girl on earth for every comment they make.

Sexism is just as real as racism or any other ism I imagine, but assuming the worst in every off-handed comment does not help the situation, it only makes one look overly sensitive thus reinforcing any sexism which may or may not exist.

If you see what you consider to be a sexist comment, imagine if it is a girl saying it and discover whether it still makes you angry. If so maybe you have a legitimate argument, my guess there would be many instances where a women concerned with such would find it is not the comment, but a general poor opinion of men which leads to this anger.

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i am male but I think women should be treated as a man would want to be treated you don't see women going around making sexist comments like men do

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
iamdavidh(4850) Disputed
3 points

... I want a random woman to walk up to me and start playing with my reproductive organs in a bar, should I then treat a woman as I want to be treated?

| Side: Very Amusing
Imright(2) Disputed
3 points

Your point is silly. Great so you want something, good for you. Congratulations!! I'm sure there are many gay males out there who would like to randomly walk up to you and start playing with your reporoductive organs too, but since it might be unwelcome and then that wouldn't be fair to you that sort of behaviour is considered illegal (do I really have to explain this here, am I debating with a sexual deviant?).

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2 points

Thank you for being one of those rare enlightened males. Unfortuatnely in our society there are not enough of you.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
2 points

absolutely, it is all in all disrespectful and it would be nice if people kept their mouths shut if they see or talk about an attractive person; there are ways to handle it and being sexist in any way is not one

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
2 points

i am sick of sexism, but createdebate is enlightened? really? i dont think anything is really enlightened. if this is any more enlightened than any other site on the internet, i'll eat a big straw hat.

| Side: enlightened
2 points

The internet is a reflection of the real world and unfortuatnely sexism is alive and well all over our culture. This is the reality and the ugly truth of how it is. It's this part of existance that makes a woman feel a little sad, and sometimes A LOT sad, about being female. There are things said and done all the time that are sexist. It makes me SICK! Women do SO much for humankind, and it isn't appropriately valued. Sexism is dehumanizing and to those of you that support it - Go see a shrink because something is wrong with you!!!!

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
MegaDittos(568) Disputed
1 point

I hope your outcry is the same for the females of our society that lead to the devaluing of women.

| Side: I love sexism!
2 points

To those whose posts are tagged "I love sexism", do you also support racism? If not, how can you differentiate the two in your mind as being any different from each other. Race and gender are both facts of our life that are beyond our control.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
2 points

Thoughts to ponder..."Sexism negatively impacts everyone. Women report that their experiences of sexism are relatively common (Swim, Hyers, Cohen, & Ferguson, 2001)). Sexism includes a wide range of events such as derogatory comments and sexual harassment to more extreme events such as sexual assault (Moradi & Subich, 2002). Oftentimes, women will internalize sexist beliefs. Internalized sexism occurs when women buy into the negative attitudes, beliefs and cultural norms about the role of women in society. Sexism has been linked to negative mental health outcomes for women ... men are not exempt from its negative effects. "

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2 points

I believe the statistics state that 1 in 6 women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime and that is in OUR country, the United States. And it is a commonly known fact that sexual assault is rooted in sexism. So how can you say sexism doesn't exist or isn't still prevalent to this day?

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1 point

I am completely fed up with sexism on the web. And if you ever complain about it, you get told that the women of today are too sensitive and by complaining and whining about something so small, are just embarassing themselves. Well, I am offended by sexist comments and damn proud of it. Women have achieved the big things - they are able to have careers, vote and are able to have an education. Now women need to achieve the little things which are holding back equality - every sexist comment is one of the "harmless" little things, as well as stupid things that the majority of men don't actually mean, but say anyway.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
1 point

So what if there are equlas? I think it still sucks especially coming from your past. You havent seen someone in a long time and they started shedding there skin right in front of your very eyes when I thought it was something more than what I say. Could this be misleading? Or just the Internet being an anti-christ for itself to my knowledge?

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1 point

I think that the sheer quantity of sexist jokes around the internet and in real life are indicative of a society which does not have equality for men and women. And that's just sad, not funny.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
1 point

Sexism on the Internet --against both sexes --harbors negative ideologies outside of the online world. This can be harmful, as implicit and explicit sexism in media, politics, religion, law, family, and society still exist both online and in the real world. In order to progress as a humanist society, we must first accept that such sexism exists then work together in removing said sexism, as we are doing with racism, out of our society. Make this a safe, more welcoming place for all people.

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1 point

All I know is I was looking for some kind of positive reinforcement. Someone in my life is always making sexist, racist, and homophobic comments. I was hoping I could find some kind of support, at least for women. Men still think it's all a joke, all over the net. I've kind of given up. I'm just trying to convince myself that the Internet is not a quantitative measurement of sexism, racism, and homophobia in this country. *nerdfighteria = more women than men. Knowledge is power.

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1 point

totally sick of it. would write a comment here about it, but, tl;dr. seems like there are mostly trolls in opposition. what would you tell you daughter if she came to read this thread?

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
9 points

What I can't figure out is why your husband moved the computer into the kitchen for you.

| Side: I love sexism!
0 points

Because the idiot though I could use ti to cook with! God, husbands are dumb.

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ryuukyuzo(594) Disputed
1 point

Shows what you know. There are several interesting sandwich recipes on the internet for you to look up.

Shame on you for using the internet outside of the purpose your husband trusted it to you with.

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robag2000(45) Clarified
1 point

I am against sexism. But when you said God, husbands are dumb., that is also a sexism comment. I believe that sexism should be removed completely instead of the oppressors becoming the oppressed.

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Imright(2) Disputed
0 points

You probably can't figure it out becuase your brain is not following a logical thought pattern. We are discussing sexism here and not why someone's husband did this or that. Please try to stay on topic. :)-

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
TyTheTiger(102) Disputed
2 points

Lol, I LOVE how everyone seems to feel the need to out-wit RK even after over 50 days XD

| Side: I love sexism!
5 points

I believe in free speech. You apparently believe in censorship....this is the internet. People can say what they want. Just because they don't agree with you does not mean you have to be offended.

Your kind of thinking leads to fascism, sorry. Get over it sister

| Side: I love sexism!
madamecherry(3) Disputed
2 points

That's ridiculous. She said nothing of censorship. It's more about the ideas behind what is said, ideas that women are worth less than men.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
1 point

only new to this site... but found this in an attempt to tell ninemsn that their home page SUCKS!! can we not even look at general news without constant stories of 'victorias secret' models being on show like it's NEWS Pleeeaaassseeeee

so changed home page to Yahoo... let's hope that they don't let me down...

Maybe it is the fact that most of these webpages are full of IT NERDS and there is no balance with girls working there... I'm sooo over it.. at least with TV we can change channels... make a small stand .. change the channel.. change the web page.. don't buy magazines... most movies are full of tits.. we don't even see mens bare chests... i mean i don't care but just make it even.. for guys and girls.. :(

| Side: fine i give up
xander(437) Disputed
2 points

madame cherry summed up my feelings very well; I think that people should be able to say whatever they want. It's unfortunate, though, that people want to say these things- especially because most of the people demanding that women return to the kitchen don't believe it, wouldn't say it in real life, or don't have romantic relationships with ladies. the internet allows for anonymity; this lets people be the biggest jackasses they can be. I'm not saying that people shouldn't be allowed to say stupid things, just that they should refrain from doing so- just as they might in polite (or even impolite) real-life company.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
whatevur(5) Disputed
1 point

who are you to compare with facsim? sexism is not a valid opinion. it is disgusting.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
2 points

sexism is not a valid opinion

There is no such thing as an invalid opinion and to say that there is does indeed border on fascism.

| Side: I love sexism!
Imright(2) Disputed
1 point

So you believe in free speech, does that then mean you support racism and terrorism too? Those beliefs are also espoused on the internet. Saying you are sick of hearing something and saying it should not be allowed on the internet are two different things dude. It's crucial you learn the difference, or you are going to become a "yes man" - afraid to dislike anything because it's expression is free speech.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
MegaDittos(568) Disputed
1 point

"does that then mean you support racism and terrorism too"

And I'm told to stop imflammatory accusations because it doesn't add to the debate???????

| Side: I love sexism!
3 points

Just to be clear on this.. I do not love sexism. It's wrong and unfair.

But the debates are exciting, the men are rude and annoying but that's alright because woman can stick up for themselves. Men that believe our place is in the kitchen are dick heads (Excuse my language) but without sexism we're missing out on fairly exciting debates. I don't like the men that are sexist but it makes a good debate :)

| Side: I love sexism!
Imright(2) Disputed
1 point

You have choosen the wrong side of the arguement, my dear. If you do not support sexism, but enjoy the debate than you belong on the other side. It's as though you think of yourself as not being a racist, but can totally laugh at racist jokes. And then when somebody asks you for your stance and asks, "Are you a racist?" You say, "Yes." What do you really believe here?

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
2 points

I don't object to sexism. I don't object to just about anything on the internet - violence, ageism, sexism, speciesism, ableism, racism.

This site is for debating opinions - many people's opinions include sexism thus sexism is frequently posted on this site.

| Side: I love sexism!
Imright(2) Disputed
1 point

Well I think we can officially count your views out, as you don't seem to have a moral code in line with the rest of general society "I don't object to just about anything on the internet - violence, ageism, sexism, speciesism, ableism, racism."

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
TERMINATOR(6718) Disputed
1 point

What you are saying is this:

I do not have a moral code comparable to yours, thus your opinion is null and void.

| Side: I love sexism!
ocachisu Disputed
1 point

To TERMINATOR:

Says the young, white, fully-able man who possible loves violence.

"sexism: prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women."

Merriam-Webster Dictionary

I can't even say anything to hurt your feelings. (implied by Louis C.K.)

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2 points

I cant say I love sexism, but if women want men to treat them as equals then they should realize that men make sexist comments about each other as a daily means of communication. If you were a man you would be told to grow a cock and stop bitching. If I said this to you I'm sure it would cause offense. Maybe you should try and think of it from a male perspective if its a male opinion you wish to gain, not all things said are vindictive some are purely in jest. The difficulty that I would see would be the fact that the typed word is devoid of emotion making it impossible to portray the message as intended. Oh and some people are just assholes so grow a cock and stop bitching. (Said ironically)

| Side: I love sexism!
zombee(1024) Disputed
2 points

You may consider it a trivial difference, but phrases like 'grow a cock' still promote the idea that being male is inherently better than being female. That particular phrase implies the recipient doesn't have one, which is understood to be a bad. In that sense, yes, it is sexist, but the sexism is not really directed at men in general as the victim.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
ricedaragh(2526) Disputed
1 point

I clearly wrote (said ironically) For those that would not be able to understand where I was coming from. My point was personified by your inability to see irony.

| Side: I love sexism!
2 points

It's really fun to argue with the guys about it. Its quite amusing!!!

| Side: Very Amusing
2 points

It's fun to watch both sexes squabble over wholly subjective matters. Idiocy of any nature makes for quality entertainment.

That, and if both sexes got along too entirely well, oh how many massive orgies there would be. Horrible, just plain horrible.

| Side: I love sexism!
Imright(2) Disputed
1 point

Sexism while maybe partially subjective is not wholly subjective as you stated. You were incorrect.

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2 points

its the way our world is run. women are like mind behind the operation and the guys are the face of the project making fools of themselves. im okay with that. it what people dont see or give credit for things that women do that makes the world so great. like do you think the house cleaned itself, i think not! do you think my head just decided to look amazing, i think not! see men dont get it. they are simple and im not saying to be insulting they really are. you really need to play in out for them step by step. women you can give them a million things to do and they will do it by the time the day is over. men you give them one thing to do and it will take them a month with constant nagging. so dont feel to bad. one day women will get fed up sitting in the background and men wont know what to do with themselves

| Side: The way of the world is---for now
1 point

I just think the internet world is full of mostly idiots that can't win a debate without using foul language or resorting to some sort of attack. I don't think sexism is used anymore or less than any other attack of someone losing a debate. I voted I love sexism because I don't really see words on an internet site as affecting someone, if it does affect the person it is that person's problem and you let the idiot win, man or woman.

| Side: I love sexism!
Imright(2) Disputed
2 points

I think that what you say is true to a degree. We do have to take personal responsiblity for not letting other people "get our goat", and I think this becomes easier to do the older you are and the better you know yourself. But to young people out there it's not enough to say harmful words on a computer screen don't affect you or shouldn't affect you. A young person is developing their self concept and learning about the world around them. Their JOB in developing to adulthood is to be affected by what others say. And of course negative words have some effect on everyone. Why do you think there are ad compaigns out there against flaming and negative online behaviour? It's not because this is desierable behaviour. It's just harmful.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
MegaDittos(568) Disputed
0 points

Which would you rather teach a woman to cope with the words of others, "don't let what others say affect you because everyone has things said to them" or "it's because you are a woman."?

Our JOB would be to teach the former and not stoop to the latter.

The former teaches everyone goes through it and you will make it, the latter is a cop out used by losers in life looking for an excuse.

A person's first instinct tells alot about them.

| Side: I love sexism!

That depends, how sick of it are you? Regardless, this debate is unashamedly biased. The only option you gave the opposition to write under was 'I love sexism!'. From this I conclude that you are a saggy-breasted feminist and that you hate men because you cannot get one.

I am not sexist, but I despise feminists. You profess to seek equality, yet you believe all men to be intellectually inferior, egotistical, narcissistic 'pigs'. If that is not sexism, then I do not know what is.

| Side: Stupid feminists
Imright(2) Disputed
2 points

Honey, let me tell you a little something about me- I don't hate men. Quite the contrary! I LOVE men, but I also want to see them, us, all of us, our society, at it's best. And we are not at our best when we discriminate and devalue half of our society. As far as having a man, I have a man alright, and he's a real hottie, not that that's anyone's concern here. Let's try not making this personal though, because then that

makes the whole debate petty and small and I'd like to speak of larger issues. I didn't set up the original debate so I didn't give the choices of what the opposing position is called but if I had, the opposing position would have been labeled "I love sexism because I have a small brain, among other things".

I think men are intellectually inferior? Egotistical? Says who? I do not hold those opinions at all. But I do know that sexism exists and as a woman you have to deal with it. And it's not a good thing and it's something to be spoken out AGAINST not FOR.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
1 point

The Internet (with some small exceptions) is nothing but a joke and should not be taken seriously. A great majority of sexist remarks on the Internet are for humor, of which i am guilty of finding amusement in.

| Side: I love sexism!

I was going to say that intelligent, even enlightened folk, like those in CreateDebate, know that a woman's place is in the home barefoot, pregnant and making dinner..... but my wife is in the other room and I chickened out ;)

| Side: I love sexism!
-1 points

Sexism turns me on.

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| Side: I love sexism!
whatevur(5) Disputed
1 point

i hate you. i mean, i don't hate you, but that doesn't contribute anything.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
1 point

I agree this doesn't add anything to the debate. It just tells us that the original poster is promiscuous and has a higher probability of contracting a STD.

| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
xander(437) Disputed
0 points

You must not get a lot of ladies, then.

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| Side: Yes! Yes I am!
Kinda(1640) Disputed
1 point

Meh.... I guess it depends on relativity...

Some guys have a different girl everyday.. so compared to them i'm mediocre...

Some guys have a different girl yearly... so compared to them i'm a playa.

I'm in the middle... different girl every month.

You make your choice.

P.S. No I am not single for any dates before you ask.

| Side: I love sexism!


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