Are hate groups really the voice of Americans?
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Yes. The headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood is located in Chicago. According to defectors, Fringe extremist Muslim groups use liberal concepts such as BLM and feminism as shields to tear the country apart, despite not actually being descendents of American slavery or feminists per the liberal definitions. ANTIFA uses similar tactics to spread Communism. Most of the chaos is being staged by groups on purpose. Side: Yes
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Anything is possible. Stirring up 20-30 people on this site wouldn't help that type of "cause" in theory.The problem is you never see ex klansmen or ex neo nazis coming out and saying the violence and hate and outrage was staged. They would be vile in an overt way. They hate you, say it out loud to your face, and will punch you if provoked. Per Project Veritas, we found out that leftist groups like to pretend to be groups that they aren't legitimately a part of or even for. We also have multiple accounts of ex extremist Muslims saying they infiltrate "African American" groups and create their own under the guise of "the descendents of slavery". It's a political weapon. Notice that Obama always said "we" in his race speeches aimed at African Americans. "WE didn't come this far to turn back now". "OUR ancesters". But truth to fact, he wasn't the descendent of American slavery. His mom was white, and his dad was a Kenyan, not an American. I've watched many interviews with ex Muslims warning the West about muruna, tawriya, kitman, and taqiya. These are overt jihad tactics where Muslims intentionally cause confusion within societies foreign to them in order to conquer them. It consists of hiding intent, hiding your true identity, pretending to be things that you aren't, paying fake lip service, getting into politics or positions of authority and power, and the like. That should scare you. The Klan is vile and dangerous, but it's not as dangerous as that. The klan is the enemy you can see. These new leftist groups like to be the invisible enemy that is hard to detect. The idiots in the klan are small in number and have been around forever. I'd stay away from them on the street sure, but they are no serious threat to destroy America in the grand scheme of things. These other groups are and plan to. Unlike the klan, they are growing and getting more powerful. The modern klan are clowns who march with a permit every year like yard birds. These leftist groups are more like the klan of the 1930's. The left isn't what it used to be. Classical liberals are bewildered at what they are seeing happening on the left. Richard Dawkins, a liberal atheist, wasn't allowed to speak at Berkeley out of fear he might trigger the students with a comment about Islam. Sam Harris, a liberal atheist, scolds the left and is considering leaving the party. Bill Maher, a liberal atheist scolds the left on its muteness on Muslim human rights violations, free speech muzzling, and safe spaces and trigger warnings. Dave Rubin runs a show called "The Rubin Report". He's a gay, atheist liberal, and he switched parties. He said he thought he'd never see the day that homosexuality, basic female rights, and free speech would have to run to the right for protection. Side: No
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On the one hand there are close to 1000 known hate groups in the USA, and that sounds bad. And many of those are Nazis. But actually the pie chart of what each group is about spreads this to many different missions, which somewhat dilutes the concentration of hate. And the majority of these groups don't organize to be big enough and loud enough to catch the headlines like Charlottesville did. Flying under the radar is still bad, but it's a sign most really don't have a mobilized dangerous base of constituents capable of sustained challenge to our grovernment. Then just to take my current state of Massachusetts for an example, it shows 10 groups (3 neo-Nazi, 2 anti-gay, 2 Black separatist, 1 anti-Muslim, 1 pro-Muslim, 1 anti-immigrant). OK. None of that is good. But also none of those groups are giant or have any obvious daily presence in this state. They certainly could not all work together to a common disruptive end, half of them hate each other. Look, I'm not trying to downplay the concern which these hate groups and Charlottesville evoke. Instead I'm trying to boost the awareness that the vast majority of citizens, in Massachusetts and indeed in most states, are not represented by these fringe groups. If all the normal people work together to say basically "we disagree with hate groups" then those groups will never grow beyond the embarrasment and minor catastrophe stage which is where they linger now. But that means we do have to participate. We have to say what we need said and sometimes we have to show up to show a presence that matches and surpasses the hate groups. Side: No
Wow! Scary! I may have missed it but I didn't see a group I used to be a proud member of, the NRA. This newer organization supports many of these most dangerous groups by pushing laws to make it easy for these scum to effectively "outgun" those that would keep them under control. The NRA used to be a gun safety organization when I was a member, a shame what they've become. I think they should be added to EVERY state. I'm not against guns, never have been, I'm against making it easy for the "Arian Nation" and like groups being able to get them soooo easily with no background check. Side: No
Indeed. I had to join the NRA in order to take the gun safety class I needed to submit for my carry permit. Soonafter I married my wife, who is anti all guns, and then the Sandy Hook mass murder happened, after which the NRA really pissed me off, so I wrote to them to cancel me. In other words I'm not much different from you. I never thought of the NRA as a hate group though, not even when I decided to leave it. Gun nuts - yes - hateful gun nuts - no. Side: No
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