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Are humans the problem or the solution?

Humans are what is wrong with the world
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Humans are responsible for:

1. Pollution

2. Energy crisis

3. Global warming

4. Extinction of species

5. The destruction of the rain forest

6. The destruction of the ozone layer

7. The destruction of the great barrier reef

8. You name it!



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Humans, Per Se, are not the problem. It's the number of humans that is the problem. If we could cut down on the world population by half, that would help a great deal.

One way to cut down on the world population is to ship them off to the Moon or a Mars colony. Let them destroy that virgin territory while the Earth recuperates.

Another way is to take out the stupid people. Anyone who is below average. Now I know the old argument, who's going to decide the criteria? I don't think it matters because no system is perfect. Lets say we chose intelligence to be the criteria (as opposed to looks), well there's going to be some dumb blond that makes it because of her looks and some ugly nerd that wont make it because of his look. And that's OK. As long as we reduce the number of humans, a few good ones that don't make it and a few bad ones that do will not matter in the grand scheme of things.

Now people get all bent out of shape and get real militant because they like it here on Earth for some reason or another. That's fine. If they are organized and prove to be difficult to get rid of, then let them be. There are tons of other people that don't have the resources, energy or will to do anything about it. Let us get rid of them; the easy pickings. Of course there will be some bleeding hearts that will accept the role of "human shield" in an attempt to save those less fortunate but this will only increase the number of people we take out in one fell swoop. Human shields aren't as good as Kevlar and missile defense systems.

Yet another way to reduce world population is to stop hounding the Chinese about their human rights violations and let them sterilize their population without their knowledge. I mean, their one child per couple policy isn't working out too good.

The beauty of this solution is that not only is it a green solution but it also fixes a bunch of other problems! No more long lines at the market. No more rush hour traffic. No famine, no homeless people, no poor people, no criminals, no handicap people taking up primo parking spots. It's a win win solution!

And if we're smart about it, we wont be open about it. It can all be done in secret and we can blame it on the rapture or something; alien abductions! I'm telling you, this could work!

Any way, if I were president, these are just some of the ideas I would implement to get every "war on [fill in the blank]" under control. We need some one who can make the tough decisions and we need that person now! We need change!

My name is joe_cavalry and I approve this message ;)

Posted 86 days ago | Tagged As: cut back on the world's human population
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In the late 60's or early 70's someone was wise enough to coin the phrase; "If you are not part of the solution, you are a part of the problem."

The solutions you offer here are no better than what any dictator might offer as a solution to an imagined problem. Earth is all we have and somehow, we must learn to co-exist with one another and not ship those we dislike, fear, are not of the same thought processes, religions convictions, handicapped in some way or have too many children be the mantra for a "head 'em up and move 'em out" trip to the Moon or Mars!

I am much too liberal minded to ever say "YES" to ideas such as these. Bill Cosby once did a short film pertaining to prejudice in the world and possible solutions to that problem. It was, of course, a tongue in cheek performance as he went through the entire list of ethnic and unpalatable groups of people one by one and relegating them to 'another place' all by themselves. Soon, there was no one left in the world that wasn't isolated in some way and even the other person he was talking to was gone after all was said and done. I don't remember the name of it but I sure wish I had a copy of it. If someone has seen this short film, I'd be grateful for a heads up on the title. I saw it in 1978 but I don't know how old it is.

Humans are the problem and they always have been...but not because the population is so high or that some are lesser beings!!! Your solutions are harsh, unfair and unfeeling. They are tantamount to genetic profiling. They even suppose that you will not be one of the people that board the next shuttle! While I understand that people with even a modicum of intelligence have little patience for stupidity, we cannot rid ourselves of people with lesser I.Q.'s for we actually need them. You speak about "them" as though they have virtually made the Earth uninhabitable! If we get rid of "them" we can fix the planet.

With your logic, I'd like to know who we're keeping. Only people with high I.Q.'s or those who have various degrees but limp a bit?

Posted 85 days ago | Tagged As: What a crazy world it is
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This is just the sort of nay-saying you'd expect from the pro-idiot crowd. The truth is dumb people have caused nearly irreparable damage to the world. Famine, pollution, homelessness -- these are not "imaged problems." Open your eyes! These problems are very real and they are not going to go away on their own. By defending these fools, you are, in effect, directly contributing our planet's demise. Tell me, Kukla, why do hate our planet?

And Bill Cosby is nothing but a facist hippy. He spews obvious lies into the gaping mouths of a naive audience. This is widely accepted as fact by anyone who seriously examines the evidence.

The fact is desperate times require desperate measures. I for one applaud Mr. Cavalry's bold position. Clearly he represents the change America -- and the world -- needs today.

Posted 85 days ago | Tagged As: cut back on the world's human population
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I purposely did not decide what the criteria should be. That is not my job. My job is to start trouble ;) and get people thinking and talking.

BTW, I would love to go to Mars!

Posted 85 days ago | Tagged As: reduce world population or ship me to Ma
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Haha, that was good Joe. I got suspended in High School for a paper I wrote submitting the idea of a required IQ test. The premise was that at birth or the ealiest medically possible everyone's "tubes are tied" or whatever reversible surgery is possible to ensure no babies. Then at a certain age, 21, 25 whatever, you take a test. Depending on the score, that's the number of kids you're allowed. Dumb = 0, Geniuses maybe can have up to four kids, like that. The beauty is you can track the trends, so you can tell if in like 60 years too many people will be cashing in SS, then scale back the numbers, or increase them if there isn't enough people.

Also in the paper I suggested implementing mandatory abortions for severely retarded kids. I once lived by a place that took care of the drooling and slapping themselves in the chest kind. Trust me, they never see a second of happiness their entire miserable lives, and some of them live a long long time. Why would any living being wanna subject another living being to that existence is beyond me.

It seemed like a logical idea to me, still does, but I lived in a little Jesus town, and they all started throwing stones and bibles at me :(

Posted 86 days ago | Tagged As: Jesus town
- pic Bradf0rd(866) Favored
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Makes more sense that retarded people could have more kids... keep trying to produce a success.

Posted 86 days ago
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Hey, we need the dumb people. Who else is going to do all the unskilled manual labor? We just need to limit reproduction on lazy people.

Posted 85 days ago
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Yes! Without the dumb people, who else is going to make the average people seem smarter? And without the average people seeming smart, then the smart people won't seem like geniuses anymore! It's an endless circle with dumb people in the middle!

Posted 85 days ago
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Humans are responsible for "You name it!"!? o.O Oh shitaku mushrooms! What have we done?! NOOOO! Why have we travled so far and accomplished so little?! The "You name it!" 's had so much to live for! They were going to evolve at any moment and save us all from total annihilation! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW?! D:

Posted 85 days ago | Tagged As: We have Gone so Far and Done so Little


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