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Debate Score:42
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Are nuclear weapons good or bad?

Should countries be able to have their own reserve of nuclear weapons? 

Yes they are

Side Score: 23
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No they aren't

Side Score: 19
2 points

Good and bad are not the operative words here.

Necessary to safeguard the western ideals of classical liberalism and the enlightenment.

Reason, science, democracy, free speech, freedom of religion, free press, a secular state, private property, free enterprise, and so on.

These values that we hold near and gave rise to the industrial revolution and subsequently the greatest civilization on earth are being threatened by fascists, particularly of the political Islam strain whom have stated many times in clear and unequivocal terms, they want to extend Sharia throughout the world, they want to destroy Israel.

With them, the question is not "Would they use the bomb?" the question is, "How close are they to getting the bomb?"

Hence, if you value the aforementioned western values, then it will need to be defended by virtuous men and women in uniform and superior firepower. There exists the very real probability that a bomb of such magnitude will eventually find it's way into the hands of those that see it as their divine duty to detonate it.

That is unfortunate, but it's also reality.

Even a meager 10 Kiloton bomb in the back of a van driven through times square or Whitehall would kill thousands. When the world knows peace, then we can disarm. Peace has an easy solution and is inevitable, but we're not there yet. Peace is quite simply allowing people to be free, politically and economically.

Democracies do not make war on each other, democracies find diplomatic resolutions. Dictatorships have a hard time maintaining alliances and ultimately stand alone in the world, despised by their populations and distrusted by other nations.

But peace is coming, by all objective criterion, the world is much more democratic than it was decades ago and the trend continues.

Side: Yes they are
skyfish(276) Disputed
1 point

Reason, science, democracy, free speech, freedom of religion, free press, a secular state, private property, free enterprise, and so on.

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pish-posh.

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those things were never in any danger when we first used a nuclear weapon, nor were they under any threat from the "scourge" of communism which drove the cold war.

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what you are espousing are the rationale from the military industrial complex to justify it's continued existence.

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our founders deplored the idea of a standing army and our favorite gen/potus warned us all of the risks associated with allowing the machinery of war making to continue to exist well after the threat was gone.

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we should heed that advise.

Side: No they aren't
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Maybe you should move to Iran and tell them that nukes are not good before they get hold of or build some and do what they say they intend to do with them. Or maybe you should move to Russia or China and tell them that nukes are not good before they try to do what those commies have always said they intend to do in order to rule the world. Maybe you should move to the moon.

Side: Yes they are
1 point

First of all, your choices make no sense based on the question: "Are they good or bad?" "YES THEY ARE!" See? No sense.

I mean the best scenario is for no one to have them, but the worst is for your enemy and not you to have them. So I mean if the question is whether they are good or bad in general, the answer is clear. But obviously of both have them, there will exist a kind of deterrant.

Side: Yes they are
0 points

If one drops on you, they're bad. If they drop on your enemies, they're good.

Side: Yes they are
lilith17(8) Clarified
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War is harm full for each sides even if it is going according to your own interests. How come you cant see this, thence you conceive that is fare, if it is for the opponent. Where do you think the bombs will be produced? And don't forget about the trials of those bombs. The country usıng nuclear bombs, will try them within its boundaries. After WW2 the Test Ban Treaty has been made probably you didn't know.

The moment when nuclear bomb explodes, the released radiation is harm full for animals and plants too, not only for people. Radiation kills livings also spoils the Terra, spoiling Terra means spoiling your own planet. Nuclear weapons are about personal ambitions spoiling our planet, accordingly keep supporting this if you want to see planet dying. In the end don't forget everything has a consequence. What goes around, comes around.

watch innocent people dying.
Side: Yes they are
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Are you saying it's better to bend over for your enemies and let them do what they want to do to you so they will be your friends and you can live happily under their rule forever?

Side: No they aren't
1 point

No they are not good because when we set off a nuclear bomb, we are destroying mass amounts of people and land. Well that's the point...right? Yes that is the point, but in doing thus we kill innocent people that live there or are held hostage or just happen to be there. Also this destroys civilizations, meaning that all the people that evacuated, or live near have no where to go because everything around them has been destroyed. Mass destruction may be a positive for the army, but not for the innocent people around the area they are bombing.

Side: No they aren't
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War is harm full for each sides even if it is going according to your own interests. How come you cant see this, thence you conceive that is fare, if it is for the opponent. Where do you think the bombs will be produced? And don't forget about the trials of those bombs. The country usıng nuclear bombs, will try them within its boundaries. After WW2 the Test Ban Treaty has been made probably you didn't know.

The moment when nuclear bomb explodes, the released radiation is harm full for animals and plants too, not only for people. Radiation kills livings also spoils the Terra, spoiling Terra means spoiling your own planet. Nuclear weapons are about personal ambitions spoiling our planet, accordingly keep supporting this if you want to see planet dying. In the end don't forget everything has a consequence. What goes around, comes around.

So sad.
Side: No they aren't
0 points

Nuclear weapons are not good, but are a necessary evil in a world where the haves and the have nots and those who are trying to get them can use them as pawns in playing a game of tag in the dynamic balance of military power on this planet.

Side: No they aren't
1 point

If it wasn't for nukes many more Japanese and Americans would have died in a project that they were planning if they couldn't take out the Japs with nukes.

Side: Yes they are

Nuclear weapons are bad... When one country fires one, the next will fire, then the next... it will be the domino effect... Understand??

Side: No they aren't
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Japan didn't fire a nuke back. And they ended a war that would have lasted longer if we didn't also many more would have died on both sides.

Side: Yes they are
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
0 points

and that's only because Japan didn't have a nuke developed at the time.

Side: No they aren't
0 points

Did you pass History? You would have learnt that only the U.S had the nuke but Russia knew that the U.S had this secret weapon but didn't know how to make it.

Side: No they aren't

Nuclear weapons are evil and all of the nations should realize how evil these weapons are before humanity destroys this beautiful world of ours.

Side: No they aren't
0 points

Oh how pitiful that sounds, rulers want power through having the nicest military. How do we get them to surrender when it's the better choice Nukes (Look up the Japanese Nuke vs Japanese Invasion)

Side: Yes they are
skyfish(276) Disputed
1 point

what you are offering here is a false dichotomy.

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we know now that japan was on the verge of collapse, and there were plans to expose that to force their surrender.

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real life testing of the bomb was the real reason we dropped second different kind on japan even after they were defeated.

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this is the military industrial complex influence manifest in public policy...and it has not changes one bit since that time.

Side: No they aren't
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
0 points

They aren't talking solely about nuking Japan they're talking about nukes overall.

Side: No they aren't