CreateDebate


Debate Info

48
34
Yes No
Debate Score:82
Arguments:75
Total Votes:93
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 
 Yes (34)
 
 No (29)

Debate Creator

DrawFour(2662) pic



Are religious people delusional?

This was inspired by idiotboxes's surety that they are on every religious debate.

Yes

Side Score: 48
VS.

No

Side Score: 34

I inspired a debate? Cool. On a serious note, I truly believe that religious people are delusional. Lets look at the definition:

Delusion: an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.

There are numerous rational arguments against a god existing. Do theists still believe in their silent, invisible, all powerful, all loving friend even after being presented rational arguments? Yes. Theists are delusional.

Side: Yes
BookBird101(575) Disputed
2 points

I'm not sure the non-existence of God is generally accepted as reality, because if that were the case, there wouldn't be so many theists in the world. Rather, neither side is 100% sure of His existence or lack thereof. Also, I'm still confused as to how having a belief makes me delusional. I've heard all of the rational arguments, and I'm not saying they're wrong or false, I'm just saying that I have my faith. If that's a crime, so be it. I thought the bigger picture was accepting other people's differences and moving on? Calling us delusional seems to be a step backwards again.

Side: No
2 points

If you are given a rational argument clearly contradicting your beliefs and you choose to ignore the argument and continue believing on "faith", then you are delusional. It is also very difficult to accept a person's belief system and move on when it is so obviously wrong (not to mention how religious organizations get so many unreasonable benefits; tax exemption for example).

Side: Yes
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

There are numerous rational arguments against a god existing.

Such as?

Side: No
1 point

Lolzors, my favorite mentally insane person. Or troll. Either way, I'm not debating you as it is pointless.

Side: Yes
kaveri(319) Disputed
1 point

such as complete lack of any kind of empirical evidence? Being based on ignorance and fear? Thousands of mutually exclusive gods with their own mutually exclusive myths ?

Side: Yes
hulkster(3) Disputed
1 point

Idiotobx, too bad you cannot give any rational arguments. Then again, you would need the ability to think and reason to do so, which you clearly cannot. your an idiot.

Side: No

For those wanting a rational argument:

Can god create a being more powerful than himself?

If he can't, then he is not all-powerful.

If he can, then he is not all powerful (as the being just created would be even more powerful).

Side: Yes
hulkster(3) Disputed
1 point

That is only a rational argument when you are in the second grade, which I am sure your IQ level is at. Think before you post, you are embarrassing yourself.

Side: No
rexwilson(37) Disputed
1 point

That is the argument that is supposed to call all professing faith away from faith?

Side: No

The belief in and worship of worldly Gods is a delusion that prevents us from following the path to the liberation from suffering.

Side: Yes
rexwilson(37) Disputed
1 point

You have it backwards. Believing in God is the path that will lead us from suffering.

Side: No
1 point

If you are going to be dead set in your ways and not change, it takes being delusional.

Side: Yes
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
1 point

Well as your argument suggest, that being dead set in your ways takes delusion, I'd like to clarify that it would only take delusion if you had been proven wrong, otherwise, being dead set in your ways could just be your surety that you are correct.

However, I'd also like to mention that not every religious person is a fundamentalist. Some are religious only on the surface, so to speak. They believe in the teachings just because they feel they are good, but they don't actually believe in the magical aspect.

Side: Yes
Cartman(18192) Clarified
1 point

Yeah, I Am Only Talking About The Crazy Fundamentalists. One Thing Though, Not Being Proven Wrong Wouldn't Be The Only Reason You Can Be Sure Of Yourself. If You Have A Position That Can't Be Proven Or Disproven, You Would Be Delusional To Think You Were 100% Correct No Matter What Anyone Says.

Side: Yes
1 point

HAHAHA, Srom downvoted me. There is my proof. ;)

Side: Yes
2 points

Oh man, he did it again. Srom up to no good showing religious people are delusional.

Side: Yes

They think that God is responsible for everything and that if you commit sins you'll go to hell. Even though a lot of people due actions they call sins. For some reason Lieing is a sin. Even though religious people as in the popes lied plenty of times.

So yes they are delusional in my book if they worship some imaginary friend that's not even real.

Side: Yes

Some are. If someone is a religious fanatic like Carrie White's mother, such a person is delusional.

Side: Yes
2 points

Not at all.

Delusional:

suffering from or characterized by delusions

Delusion:

an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.

We can surmise that, if the belief or impression does not differentiate from the norm, it can not be a delusion, thus religious people are not delusional.

Side: No
1 point

We can surmise that, if the belief or impression does not differentiate from the norm, it can not be a delusion, thus religious people are not delusional.

The belief or impression is contradicted by rational argument.

Side: Yes
trumpet_guy(502) Clarified
1 point

The belief or impression is contradicted by rational argument.

Correction-it is COUNTERED by a rational argument, which is then countered by another logical religious argument, which is countered by another logical non-religious argument, which is countered by another argument.

Side: Yes
Stickers(1037) Disputed
1 point

That's a bit out of context...

It's about what is generally accepted to be a rational argument or reality.

Side: No
hulkster(3) Disputed
1 point

Hey idiotobx, we are still waiting for you to give your first rational argument on any subject. Your parents should not allow you anywhere near a computer, or others for that matter.

Side: No
kaveri(319) Disputed
1 point

Delusion:

an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.

Belief that talking snake made rib woman eat from magical tree exactly fits...

Side: Yes
kaveri(319) Disputed
0 points

the belief that some cosmic Jewish zombie will grant you immortality, if you ‘symbolically’ eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can rid an evil imbedded in mans soul because some rib woman was tricked into eating a magic apple by a talking snake

....sounds delusional to me...

Side: Yes
Stickers(1037) Clarified
1 point

That's... Some glorious copypasta...

Whether or not it sounds silly when reiterated like that has no bearing on whether or not it is a delusion.

Side: Yes

They see da trooth, you are delusional to deny it! :o

Side: No

It is better to judge by a case by case basis, instead of broad brush.

Side: No