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Debate Score:46
Arguments:38
Total Votes:49
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Are suicides morally right?

Taking one's own life, for any specific reason, is quite saddening to anyone who hears about it..
is it morally right though?
do you believe it's not right to give up on specific reasons and work on making circumstances better?
or do you believe that it's necessary when people just can't take it anymore?
I couldn't pick sides on this one, as I find myself finding counter arguments to most of the arguments I made on either sides, I would like to know your opinion and views..

yes

Side Score: 25
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no

Side Score: 21

It's mainly about the reasons, though.

In general, as to the action itself, I find nothing wrong if anyone wants to end his miserably short existence sooner than it otherwise would.

Side: yes
2 points

The manner in which someone goes should be considered. If a person leaves a message blaming some friend or family member, or if the person kills their self in front of a child, this is undoubtedly immoral, but not because of the act itself.

There are situations we can imagine wherein no one really blames the person who commits suicide. These are usually situation where loved ones are either not hurt, or are helped more than they are harmed. These situations are less common.

The most common situation doesn't involve people actually wanting to die, but rather people who just want their suffering to stop, but see no way that it will. To the extent that they are irrational and cause harm to others, this would be considered immoral. However, another way to look at there situation is as a disease. The crippling depression caused the suicide is a disease that overtook them. In this case dying from suicide is as moral as dying from cancer. This last outlook tends to help people currently struggling with depression as well as the family of those left behind. And since those who have committed suicide are no longer in the realm of moral consideration, this may be the best practical position.

So is suicide morally right? Like most things, it depends on the context in which it occurs. Whether it is actually true or not, it is at least practical to consider suicide to no be immoral.

Side: yes
2 points

I see nothing wrong with ending your life. It is YOUR life. Although I wouldn't recommend it, I think it's nobody's business.

Side: yes
valeecarri(52) Clarified
0 points

hello,

Yes, you're right. it should be completely up to you and its nobody's business but that doesn't make it morally correct.

bye =)

Side: yes
wisdumb(77) Disputed
0 points

What makes it immoral? The bible? It is only immoral if this whole life thing is a test by some supreme deity. And it would be incredibly cruel of this deity to subject a person to a life of torture and depression and expect this person to endure it until by some chance it ends unexpectedly for no particular reason.

Side: no
1 point

It depends. A person who is beyond help and suffering SHOULD have the moral right to end his/her own suffering. I believe most social morals would agree with that. Religious morals likely wouldn't. Believing that only a "god" has the right to stop you from suffering, or has the right to force you TO suffer as long as it wishes, is, in my opinion, cruel and unusual punishment, and , in a word, immoral.

Side: yes
3 points

Hello Al:

In my state, I have the right to end my life for the very reasons you explained.. I cannot envision the state REQUIRING me to suffer and REQUIRING my family to PAY for it..

excon

Side: yes
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
2 points

Now what state is it you exist in excon ? Remember you need to be consistent LMMFAO !

Side: yes
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
2 points
Side: yes
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
2 points

In your state you don't have healthcare coverage ? Healthcare coverage would require you to suffer ?

Side: yes
AlofRI(1839) Clarified
-2 points
AlofRI(1839) Clarified
0 points

Consider also, if a health care system is set up that will bleed every penny from your family and, maybe even cut off your insurance when you become "to expensive" to cover, or too much of a risk to cover, Are THEY immoral? Aren't THEY allowing you to die when you could be saved ... for a profit? In that case it's okay to let you suffer, but NOT okay to let you save some money for your family to survive on?? Obviously, THEY need the money, THEY are "god", They let you die ... you cannot!

Side: yes
outlaw60(8861) Disputed
3 points

Crazy Al if only the government ran healthcare then you would not have anything to complain about ! Politicians who have no expertise in the health industry at all so why do you need them making decisions for all Americans !

Side: no
1 point

SUICIDE IS 100% MORALLY RIGHT. I say this with an extensive knowledge of being around people with insurmountable odds. There are people in this world who are suffering in the most indescribable ways. Hunger, torture, rape, disease, cancer, paralysis, psychological pain and etc. Who are we to say that someone can't end their life. Today in America we're arguing for so many personal freedoms however minuscule they might be; but why should we exclude this freedom? Because we don't like talking about it? Because it's not 'politically correct'? Because we're not the perfect utopian society that we're brainwashed into believing? If our government acknowledged the right of taking your own life, suicide would be much cleaner and less disruptive. There is no argument against suicide. Why should you let someone suffer day after day, second after second because you don't believe suicide is not morally right?

Side: yes
1 point

well you see suh i drank me sum bleach suh and i felt pretty good suh

Side: yes
1 point

It is a person's own body and life and as sad as it is, it is their right to do as they wish.

Side: yes
5 points

Anyone seriously contemplating suicide will be in a dark narrow tunnel where only total despair is present and all logical reason is absent.

The question of whether such an action is morally correct and what the consequences may be for everyone around them doesn't enter their head.

It is therefore most difficult, if not impossible for others to judge those who are feeling suicidal as they will never be able to understand the unbearable mental and/or physical pain the victim is suffering.

Anyone intending to commit suicide should be made see that there is a way out of their seemingly insurmountable dilemma and that the ''sun will also rise'' on the other side of their moment of darkness.

Side: no
Truth-Out(18) Disputed
1 point

You're either living a great life or have been watching too much tv. 'The sun will also rise' are you kidding me, this isn't a movie, this is life, and for many life is nothing but a long, drawn out, time of suffering and hurt. If suicide is the only way to end that suffering, why shouldn't it be right?

Side: yes

Committing suicide will cause emotional distress to your friends and family, which obviously isn't a good thing. On the other hand, the person who wants to commit suicide is already in emotional distress and it's selfish for their friends and family to expect them to endure it. I think it really comes down to individual circumstances. If the person has little to no chance of recovery, such as someone suffering from a serious incurable ailment that is making their life unbearable, then if their family and friends truly loved them, they would support their decision to end their life. If it's just normal depression that could be helped by counseling or medication, then the person should make a strong effort to push through it for the sake of their family and friends. I was suicidal from my early teens all the way until I was 25, but I made it through, barely. I've very rarely felt depressed since then, and that was 20 years ago, so there is a light at the end of the tunnel for many people.

Side: no
2 points

We lived somewhat parallel lives in our 20's. I can't say that I was even close to suicide, but I was physically and mentally unable to work for several months. (Shakes and unable to concentrate), I never let that happen again. It is just as painful as a physical injury.

Side: no
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
2 points

So through your entire convoluted reply what did you really say ?

Side: yes
1 point

Suicides are not morally right, because suicide may or may not end the suffering of the victim (heaven/ hell , or just nonexistence), but it causes the suffering of their families and may leave the families wit a wound that will never heal.

Side: no
Truth-Out(18) Disputed
2 points

What you're saying is selfish and egotistical. Until we realize that life isn't this special, purpose-filled dream that we fill our heads with we are not going to get anywhere. If one wants to end their life because of the suffering that one endures they should have the option of doing that. Death is inevitable, it's going to come eventually and families are undoubtedly going to suffer; so why should one more person have to suffer? Suicide should be a right that every human being should have.

Side: yes
AlofRI(1839) Clarified
1 point

I watched several friends and relatives suffer 'til death. My mother, most recently. When people suffer few of their relatives or friends watch it without relief when it stops. I think, in most suffering cases, the "wound" only gets worse if you have to watch suffering.

Side: yes
1 point

The problem with most suicides is that the root cause can usually be treated. From a utilitarianistic perspective, it would be best to seek treatment to avoid having to put pain on everyone around. Often, when someone commits suicide, others feel responsible when they aren't. I've personally seen many people escape suicide simply by becoming more aware of the vast amount of opportunity in contrast to the few forces driving them towards suicide.

Side: no
1 point

hello,

so i dont find it morally correct, i have never heard of a person who has thought of it as a morally correct, however, i believe that it is your right to decide what you want to do with your body and yourself. Its illegal to kill yourself, or even attempt it. Theres a lot of things that apply to that law, if you want to discuss youre welcome to hmu but point being its not morally correct.=)

Side: no
1 point

so i dont find it morally correct

why do you say so? explain..

Side: yes
valeecarri(52) Disputed
1 point

so basically like i explained before, morals are very objective, my morals can be different from everyone else's and although i feel it should be morally acceptable i believe that everyone has made it more taboo and it doesn't allow dialogue, which could make it both morally and sociably acceptable, after all it is your body and it should be your decision. But something inside me says it's wrong and it doesn't have to do with religion or anything

Side: no
1 point

I do not believe that suicide is right. No one should ever end their life for anything going on in this world. We all suffer and ending your life is the coward's way out. I don't care if you think it's okay for someone to end their life. I see people saying "oh it's okay. It's their life and they can choose." If so you obviously have never had someone tell you that they are thinking about ending their life. If someone does tell you are you going to tell them that it is okay? What if it's your best friend? Just think about that before you say it's okay or whatever. No one should ever commit suicide.

Side: no